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Game Informer Tease: "Screenshots ... are gorgeous. My jaw is still on the ground..."
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Yeah, that's true. I'm trying to remember when Oblivion was on the cover GI though if the 360 was announced already. Long time ago.
specialguy
Banned
And it was true.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Reach with slightly fewer jaggies and better textures would have looked fantastic. Please be Halo 4.
Proelite
Member
Reach was amazing graphically overall with a few extremely ugly down points.
Motion blur was terrible, i.e. the part in the first level where you view a hawk while riding a hawk.
Faces on NPC humans in gameplay wasn't anything special.
Objects in the environments lacked proper shadows.
The image quality, despite the TAA, wasn't that much better than Halo 3.
Motion blur was terrible, i.e. the part in the first level where you view a hawk while riding a hawk.
Faces on NPC humans in gameplay wasn't anything special.
Objects in the environments lacked proper shadows.
The image quality, despite the TAA, wasn't that much better than Halo 3.
Yeah, I like the graphics a lot in Reach, but the motion blur was definitely terrible.
I agree. The bad part of mb is, per object mb only works when you are moving. You have to move to see mb on your gun while reloading, otherwise you won't see it. Epic mentioned that was one of the problems they had to solve when implementing new object mb in UE3 last year.
shinobi602
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Halo 3 still has (arguably)the best water on consoles this gen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIagwgXEkOA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIagwgXEkOA
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Anybody from Crytek working on Halo 4? Their implementation of motion blur is pretty great.
higherARC05
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It's like I can take a straw and slurp it good. Delicious.
shinobi602
Member
I knew someone would say Uncharted. That's why I didn't post it, because I truly believe the water in H3 looks better.
Unfortunately when the players run through it, it honestly looks like they are no-clipping.
higherARC05
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Water has no physics interactions with any player movement or any other objects.
FAIL
Even when you swim in it, it doesn't look like water but just air you are gliding in.
LOL Wat?
It not just has physics but the dynamic of drakes clothing getting we up to the point where he touches in water.
higherARC05
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Why is it when you move in water, the water does not ripple to your character model?
No phyics. Understand?
And making nathan look wet has nothing to do with the water tech. It's a shader that is applied like in Gears of War 2 when you are in the worm and you get soaked in blood the same way.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Watch it be a 3DS game. 
Watch it be a 3DS game.
This would be glorious.
Are you BLIND?
higherARC05
Banned
Show me the ripples you create in the water.
I have the game and tested it. The water has NO interaction with your character model or any other action you do.
Like if you throw a gernade in the water, it won't displace the water at all no 2d or 3d tesselated like in HALO 3.
mmmk
Seriously do you have the game or are you one of those people who look at youtube vids and base your highly technical analysis on them.
He must have confused that Halo water video with the one you put up
This is a better demonstration of Halo3's water effects, that last video was crap. I still prefer the water in Uncharted 3 though
shinobi602
Member
He's right. There's not really any rippling effect behind Drake while he's swimming (where his feet are). All I can pretty much see are tiny 2D splashes when his hands and feet come into contact with the water.
shinobi602
Member
Did you even watch the video? The ripples and displacement of the water is clear as day.
This a fight for supremacy! Not a group of silly men squabbling over which branded toy produces the best eye candy!
If I wanted to see spectacular water I'd go to the beach!
MoonLightWave
Member
Edit: Nvm, I'm stupid.
higherARC05
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These kiddies are new to gaming tech. They just like using youtube vids for their 'analysis'.
I haven't played Crysis on console, looks good and reacts when messed with? Crysis 2 has some nice water.
The lengths people will go to argue nonsense in some of these technical threads is absurd at times. All you can do is laugh because if you don't, all that's let is pity.
This man gets it!
'kiddies'? Really?
RPGCrazied
Member
Halo 4? Doesn't that look a lot like the 3rd game? I'm hoping its something totally new though.
God of War 4 would be cool, minus Kratos. Kingdom Hearts 3 would be even better, but that isn't going to come out in my life time apparently.
God of War 4 would be cool, minus Kratos. Kingdom Hearts 3 would be even better, but that isn't going to come out in my life time apparently.
shinobi602
Member
We're just having a conversation. Though it seems beast786 is easily riled up...
Last gen water looks better than H3 or Uncharted 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK-LbDEDbyY
It even has some reflections unlike Uncharted 3 water.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK-LbDEDbyY
It even has some reflections unlike Uncharted 3 water.
Spiffy_1st
Member
Wind Waker has the best video game water.
It looks a lot like the 3rd game really?
shinobi602
Member
"Look a lot like" meaning a Halo game looks like another Halo game? I'd hope so.
dragonelite
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I like these kind of threads it makes people do research or look up stuff.
Its a nice way to learn stuff. Hell 2~3 years ago in a fanboy fight on some old forum it was one poster(GT forum ACrevolution if im not mistaken)that knew so much stuff i pm him and asked where he learned all that stuff. He just gave me some links like to Beyond3D lurked there for a long time and some wikipedia stuff.
Then i went to uni CS course and met a fellow student/friend that was into game programming and stuff and did some game projects with him and others..
He forced me to learn C++ by lending his Game institute books.
So yeah these thread can inspire some people to do stuff and learn about subjects.
its not that simple for all we know that little puddles has a denser polygon mesh then the ocean.
higherARC05
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Okay let's not derail this thread anymore lol
HALO 4 has to be the cover story.
It fits 343Industries hints of new info and pics we will get this month confirmed by their podcast. And that their weekly update has moved to Thursday this week.
HALO 4 has to be the cover story.
It fits 343Industries hints of new info and pics we will get this month confirmed by their podcast. And that their weekly update has moved to Thursday this week.
keltickennedy
Member
Came in here for the new Gameinformer speculations. Instead, I get water...
The point being that the water in Uncharted 3 is very pretty but doesn't react to the actions of the player. Which in fact does MEAN for a fact that the water in Uncharted 3 isn't as well "simulated" as the water in Halo 3 when it comes to those details.
Aside from it, water has been looking impressive in videogames since last generation, and no Uncharted 3 doesn't somehow render water in a way that we have never seen before.
At this point, water no longer just needs to look like water, it has to behave like water. Next Gen will be cool for that.
makingmusic476
Member
To weigh in on the water debate, I found Uncharted 3's water looked better than Uncharted 1/2's, but it sacrificed interactivity for it. For example, the pool from Uncharted 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9LI3Xzrls
Killzone 3, on the other hand, used different types of water in different areas. The arctic areas were impressive, though you could clearly see the polygonal structure and couldn't interact with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fTpztdqeWQ
Meanwhile, the water in smaller areas you could actually reach reacted to shots and whatnot, and actually functioned better than any of the water in the Uncharted series, imo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YWDHI61C9Y
And then there's the water from the Gears 2 Brackish Waters boss fight, that's on a larger scale but still retains interactive physics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoF0MqoBKgc
People claiming Halo 3 has the best water seem like they've haven't played too many more recent games, imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9LI3Xzrls
Killzone 3, on the other hand, used different types of water in different areas. The arctic areas were impressive, though you could clearly see the polygonal structure and couldn't interact with it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fTpztdqeWQ
Meanwhile, the water in smaller areas you could actually reach reacted to shots and whatnot, and actually functioned better than any of the water in the Uncharted series, imo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YWDHI61C9Y
And then there's the water from the Gears 2 Brackish Waters boss fight, that's on a larger scale but still retains interactive physics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoF0MqoBKgc
People claiming Halo 3 has the best water seem like they've haven't played too many more recent games, imo.
MoonLightWave
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Dark souls is not really a good looking game, not on consoles anyway.
Except that it looks amazing on consoles. It is absolutely gorgeous. Now, it does not run well, now. But how it looks? Godlike.
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