That's what I was trying to illustrate with the four YouTube videos I posted. They were very far away from Doom, but they also weren't all that close to Wolfenstein 3D, either.
You have never had point, you lost the original argument, changed your argument, and still lost. Stop replying and wasting time, you're very dishonest, I've never seen someone spend so much time making stuff up about something they know nothing about, fail to back up their broad statements, than change the argument by making another broad statement that is still wrong. You make the same mistake over and over again ad nauseam.
Why are you still trying to have a conversation? You originally said that W3D wasn't meaningful and disqualified it because YOU ignorantly believed that there weren't clones, there weren't several FPS games before Doom, and implied W3D didn't have a shareware model along with several other false claims, and all of your beliefs were factually wrong, You indirectly admitted your claims were wrong but still continued the argument by bringing in new excuses yet accuse me of moving off-topic?????
You then tried to downplay the number of FPS's by saying there weren't many, and once you got destroyed on that, you then made a snide remark to the effect of 'I guess there were a couple more than 3' , which you once again got destroyed on.
You then took 4 games that were clearly FPS games, then tried to disqualify them by making up a new argument that they were nothing similar to W3D which was never part of the original debate, in addition two of those games ripped the damn engine from W3D. Then, in a last sorry attempt you tried to switch the excuse from them not being like W3D to only not being like Doom taking W3D out of the post and pretending you were only talking about Doom the entire time, which was not even relevant to the discussion.
There was no aside, you're just full of crap, you no position to debate from, and are now pretending that poor little Zefah was some innocent poster that was attacked by the big bad Freedom Gate. We are done with this conversation stop replying.
Even with
this quote you still try to disqualify the above 4 games as FPS by saying they aren't like W3D, which not only was never the point, but its still wrong because two of them basically use the same or similar engine based on the engine used in W3D. You have nothing to contribute here and have already shown your lack of knowledge of the FPS scene in the early 90's.
You're clearly discussing a subject you know zero to very little about, so I think it's time for you to just move on and admit you have not made a single valid point in this entire discussion.