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Gameinformer + Ubisoft + Nintendo Rev = Red Steel
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The controls definitely seem interesting, and a step up in intuitiveness from the standard controller control scheme. i can't wait to see some of the other ways the revmote is utilized in this game. i'd also like to see support for dual revmotes.
Just an idea.
Hold a button to go into "weapon" mode. This allows you to use the revmote to control your gun. Release the button to go into "cursor" mode, which allows you to move the cursor to interact with different objects. This could be inverted so that you're normally in weapon mode and have to press a button to go into cursor mode.Doc Holliday said:SOemthing brought in another forum
The cursor looks like it moves. So it looks like its on rails, unless you can somehow move the view independantly from the crosshair? How would that work?
Just an idea.
Mama Smurf said:
Holy shit, forgot about Prime 3 entirely, I was playing Metroid Prime the other day and I forgot how good the graphics and art direction was. If Ubi can make the Rev pump out graphics like in the scans, I drool just thinking about what Retro can do with it.
underfooter
Banned
Mama Smurf said:
There are still secret Rev functions.
Also, whats to say when the sword is out you don't look around when moving the Revmote, and when you hold down the trigger you go into a mode where you lock onto the other swordsman and you dual it out.
Zerodoppler
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Does Ubi have final development hardware?
Hmm... the controls sound like this:
Controls:
Revmote: Moves crosshair - crosshair target = "z-target"
Left Analog:
left & right: circle strafes around crosshair target
forward & back: moves toward/away from crosshair target
When not moving, the crosshair can be moved around without moving the screen.
When you push forward on the left analog, the crosshair gets moved to the middle as the screen scrolls towards the target (crosshair still points at the same thing).
Controls:
Revmote: Moves crosshair - crosshair target = "z-target"
Left Analog:
left & right: circle strafes around crosshair target
forward & back: moves toward/away from crosshair target
When not moving, the crosshair can be moved around without moving the screen.
When you push forward on the left analog, the crosshair gets moved to the middle as the screen scrolls towards the target (crosshair still points at the same thing).
GSG Flash said:
I can easily see that working. "Rails" with some "branches". A "branch" would be pointing the revmote at a overturned table and you move to that position.
Or say your in a car parking lot, on the left side of the screen there is a van, on the right a truck. To move to a different area you have the choice of either the van or truck only.
AltogetherAndrews
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Cold-Steel said:
Uh, and minus a crap load of character detail.
Shawn128 said:
"High up"? That guy is in marketing.
[screwed up my earlier post]
A quick mockup I made to show how the top of the controller has changed from earlier shots. Probably doesn't mean anything but.
Imagine multiplayer, one hit kills, pistols (yes, like goldeneye). When you run out of ammo you run in, arm swinging, pistol whipping like a mad man.
Newzboyz99
Losers! My wife has me on lock!
S*** i want to see the scans@!@@@
MadraptorMan
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Look, it's 100% confirmed that the game is NOT on rails. Not at all. The article calls it an FPS game, and they even talk about how natural strafing around targets feels. Ok, so it's not on rails, we can stop saying it now, right?
:lolPhoenixDark
Banned
WTF PEOPLE
The game is not on rails! You use the analog stick for movement, and the revmote works as a mouse/c-stick basically.
The game is not on rails! You use the analog stick for movement, and the revmote works as a mouse/c-stick basically.
CompositeMolar
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MadraptorMan said:
It looks too good for the revolution... it must be on rail.
radioheadrule83
Banned
WOW!
I said it! Looks much nicer than I'd expected. Judging by a lot of the feedback, others agree. I want to see this in motion.
As for the controls I'm thinking it will be fairly simple although perhaps not easy to explain. You point somewhere and your cursor zips to that point. If the cursors position on the screen meets certain criterion, or exceeds certain extremeties then the camera follows. So if you point somewhere nearby fast, the cursor goes there, and the view follows -- but eases into place. If you point somewhere extreme, the camera catches up quicker.
Like someone else said -- sort of how GoldenEye and Timesplitters handle a floaty cursor/camera.
I said it! Looks much nicer than I'd expected. Judging by a lot of the feedback, others agree. I want to see this in motion.
As for the controls I'm thinking it will be fairly simple although perhaps not easy to explain. You point somewhere and your cursor zips to that point. If the cursors position on the screen meets certain criterion, or exceeds certain extremeties then the camera follows. So if you point somewhere nearby fast, the cursor goes there, and the view follows -- but eases into place. If you point somewhere extreme, the camera catches up quicker.
Like someone else said -- sort of how GoldenEye and Timesplitters handle a floaty cursor/camera.
:Motorbass
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pkasho said:
I believe, there is a deadzone, so when you move the Crosshair slightly, the screen won't move, but when you approach the screen borders or move quickly, the screen turns. Easy.
Metroid Hunter's Crosshair moves also (no deadzone thingy tho)
meltpotato
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I wonder how this is going over in japan... first Revo game shown is a foriegn developed FPS. Any impression over at 2ch? I saw a mention of it, but my understanding is far too limiting to gauge it.
EDIT:
WHAT THE FUCK. please please please let that be in reference to coop-play
EDIT:
WHAT THE FUCK. please please please let that be in reference to coop-play
RED STEEL (REV): *GI* Feauture (Quotes):
In many situations, there will be a higher-ranking enemy who commands the others in the area. By defeating him, and sparing his life, he will offer you his respect, and help. The enemies will surrender their guns, and the boss may offer you a new weapon, a special path, or another reward. Any time you spare an enemy, you will be rewarded. As it always takes more skill to spare a life, than to take it
Although the majority of Red Steels gameplay will stress ranged combat, there will be times you need to get up close, and personal. You can switch to the sword at any time, and if you can get close enough to an enemy, you can use it for one-hit stealth kills. In other moments youll find yourself locked into intense one-on-one sword duels.
Also notice something about a "Freeze Shot Mode", and "4 Player Max-Multi-Play Support"
In many situations, there will be a higher-ranking enemy who commands the others in the area. By defeating him, and sparing his life, he will offer you his respect, and help. The enemies will surrender their guns, and the boss may offer you a new weapon, a special path, or another reward. Any time you spare an enemy, you will be rewarded. As it always takes more skill to spare a life, than to take it
Although the majority of Red Steels gameplay will stress ranged combat, there will be times you need to get up close, and personal. You can switch to the sword at any time, and if you can get close enough to an enemy, you can use it for one-hit stealth kills. In other moments youll find yourself locked into intense one-on-one sword duels.
Also notice something about a "Freeze Shot Mode", and "4 Player Max-Multi-Play Support"
Buggy Loop
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My god.. havent been this hyped since a long time, i want star wars jedi duel online game NOW!
MadraptorMan
Member
"Freeze shot adds a lot of depth to the gunplay and is a natural fit for the revolution controller" (GI). I wonder if this mode explains the reticule-on-the-side-of-the-screen thing?
Newzboyz99
Losers! My wife has me on lock!
Wow...Looks very nice.
I have to apologize to Nintendo, after seeing the Rev's specs on Ign, I thought the games would look like Halo 2 at best, but Red Steel clearly surpasses it
First thing that quote reminded me of
Matix said:RED STEEL (REV): *GI* Feauture (Quotes):
Although the majority of Red Steels gameplay will stress ranged combat, there will be times you need to get up close, and personal. You can switch to the sword at any time, and if you can get close enough to an enemy, you can use it for one-hit stealth kills. In other moments youll find yourself locked into intense one-one sword duels.[/I]
Also notice something about a "Freeze Shot Mode", and "4 Player Max-Multi-Play Support"
First thing that quote reminded me of
soul creator
Member
looks dope, but it's still xbox 1.5
hehe
citrus lump
Banned
So is the Revolution a baby step into VR? You move your arm, the arm on the screen moves- imagine all the other stuff that could be possible.(With various attachments no doubt)
Who needs a helmet. ;p
Who needs a helmet. ;p
PhoenixDark
Banned
OmegaRed said:
At least about the shaders. I don't see why Nintendo can't add them. It's not THAT expensive.
AndoCalrissian
Member
That controller could have been one of the uglier development ones that IGN mentioned.Roders5 said:
A quick mockup I made to show how the top of the controller has changed from earlier shots. Probably doesn't mean anything but.
Imagine multiplayer, one hit kills, pistols (yes, like goldeneye). When you run out of ammo you run in, arm swinging, pistol whipping like a mad man.
will the graphics improve on launch time? isn't the final rev kits being released in a couple of months?
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Wow- 1st revolution screenshots and and game gets revealed on my last day of classes before graduation, and the day of my unbanning! Awesome.
Oh, and the screenshots dont look like shit, which was the only thing I was afraid of. About the game mechanics, it sounds too awesome to comment on, but the potential seems amazing.
Oh, and the screenshots dont look like shit, which was the only thing I was afraid of. About the game mechanics, it sounds too awesome to comment on, but the potential seems amazing.
Zerodoppler
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GaimeGuy said:
Not really. I need to see it in motion first. I fear the animations will be bad.
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