Riposte
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Scoring system is too random and is highly manipulable.
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Games that are, and will always be perfect.
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Scoring system is too random and is highly manipulable.
ArachosiA 78
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Zelda: ALTTP
Pac-Man
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
I think these games are timeless. They will still be great 100 years from now.
Pac-Man
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
I think these games are timeless. They will still be great 100 years from now.
Correctomundo
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Tetris is timeless. Everything else is not. That being said, I disagree with the premise of this thread.
Perfect Blue
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There can only be one.
The only negative people bring up are the dungeons, which were groundbreaking for it's time, but seem simple by today's standards.
Which is why I posted Master Quest
The only negative people bring up are the dungeons, which were groundbreaking for it's time, but seem simple by today's standards.
Which is why I posted Master Quest
They might seem simple, but if you're coming into that game fresh there are still some great puzzles that'll stump you for a bit. I mean sure if you've played every other Zelda and go back to it now, they seem so much simpler. People don't seem to understand that they all work off of the incredibly solid framework laid down by OOT.
Master Quest is a great extra challenge, but I do still love the original layouts.
These Tetris answers are close, but no cigar.
The real answer is Tetris Attack. Later versions added a bunch of neat fluff, but that's all distractions from the perfection of 2 Player Time Trial (and the perfections of Tetris Attack music). It also beats Panel de Pon because it has Hookbill Koopa.
In conclusion, Tetris Attack.
The real answer is Tetris Attack. Later versions added a bunch of neat fluff, but that's all distractions from the perfection of 2 Player Time Trial (and the perfections of Tetris Attack music). It also beats Panel de Pon because it has Hookbill Koopa.
In conclusion, Tetris Attack.
ConradCervantes
Banned
Ducky nailed it. Super Metroid is STILL the only game I can go back and play and have it still have that...freshness. Such an immaculately designed masterpiece, probably the crown jewel of Nintendo's best of the best.
Syph Medwes
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Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
Super Metroid is very far from perfect. The graphics are frankly ugly nowadays, particularly the repetitive-looking environments. Also, a bunch of the secrets are found by mindless bombing/scanning/whatever, rather than by careful observation or clever puzzles.
Frankly, Metroid: Zero Mission solves these issues and is a better game.
Frankly, Metroid: Zero Mission solves these issues and is a better game.
Criminal Upper
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The Xtortionist
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Super Metroid should mark every single room that has a powerup on your map.
HYDE
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Not to mention give you permission to use your items from Adam.
AngmarsKing701
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Skyrim
BoobPhysics101
Banned
cartman414
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SMB1: duplicate levels.
My perfect games.
The most overhyped IMO of their respective series (barring OoT in the case of Zelda), and both eclipsed by portable followups.
Nah. FF6 is closer to perfection, and even that needs a few tweaks.
Dance Inferno
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There are very few games I can play multiple years later and still enjoy just as much as I did the first time, but here are a few:
REmake. The static cameras allow the graphics to really pop, and the way this game builds tension and suspense is unparalleled anywhere else. This was one of the few games I finished and felt a powerful bond with the character I spent many hours controlling. Fantastic.
No One Lives Forever. The humor in this game is top notch, the gameplay is so unlike any other FPS out there (colorful and unique levels where you're always doing something new), and it has FIFTY levels. I miss the days where an FPS took you 15+ hours to finish.
Metal Gear Solid 2. This is one of the first games I replayed multiple times, and every time my strategies changed and I was able to experience the game in a whole new way. This is the definition of "wide linear," a game with a linear path but which gives you the freedom to get through its challenges in any way you see fit. Stealth through it, fight through it, hide in a cardboard box, use tranquilizer darts, or any other strategy which you see fit.
REmake. The static cameras allow the graphics to really pop, and the way this game builds tension and suspense is unparalleled anywhere else. This was one of the few games I finished and felt a powerful bond with the character I spent many hours controlling. Fantastic.
No One Lives Forever. The humor in this game is top notch, the gameplay is so unlike any other FPS out there (colorful and unique levels where you're always doing something new), and it has FIFTY levels. I miss the days where an FPS took you 15+ hours to finish.
Metal Gear Solid 2. This is one of the first games I replayed multiple times, and every time my strategies changed and I was able to experience the game in a whole new way. This is the definition of "wide linear," a game with a linear path but which gives you the freedom to get through its challenges in any way you see fit. Stealth through it, fight through it, hide in a cardboard box, use tranquilizer darts, or any other strategy which you see fit.
Big-ass Ramp
hella bullets that's true
Animal Crossing for the Gamecube.
IOnEI Falcon
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Donkey Kong Country 2 and Perfect Dark.
cartman414
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So is substance. A little of both never hurts.
K
kittens
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Man, this is all subjective obviously, but Ocarina of Time wasn't even perfect in 1998. I mean, I know we're not talking games that are truly perfect here, but OOT's flaws are too pronounced to even come close.
The fact that it doesn't hold a candle to it's 2D predecessors is enough to disqualify it, in my opinion. The Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past, and Link's Awakening are all far more timeless in my eye.
The fact that it doesn't hold a candle to it's 2D predecessors is enough to disqualify it, in my opinion. The Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past, and Link's Awakening are all far more timeless in my eye.
cartman414
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Tetris: TGM doesn't have any of those.
This. Heck, I'd add Zelda II to that list. Screw the haters. Zelda II has the best combat in the series. And if Zelda I holds up, so does Zelda II.
Sad no one's mentioned Donkey Kong '94 yet. Not only Donkey Kong's finest hour (suck it DKC!), but also the best puzzle platformer ever.
Also surprised not to see any Planescape: Torment nods yet.
Cpt Conifer
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LMAO!! You chose THAT particular image for Soul Reaver, the one where Kain is checking out Raziel's wings. Good shit, man. Good shit... (actually every pic chosen in that post is hilarious in a classy way.)
Mr_Appleby
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way too easy compared to MM. though since it includes MM it's a tough call...
littleworm
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Roller Coaster Tycoon
Sim City
Sim City
Name me some flaws that OOT has.
Seriously, I have a hard time coming up with any. And for what it's worth, I have a hard time coming up with flaws in LTTP too.
secretanchitman
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ocarina of time
a link to the past
super metroid
super mario bros 3
super mario world
mega man 3
startropics
diablo
mgs4
there are many more, but i cant think of them now because im too sleepy.
a link to the past
super metroid
super mario bros 3
super mario world
mega man 3
startropics
diablo
mgs4
there are many more, but i cant think of them now because im too sleepy.
I'm really interested to hear what these very pronounced flaws are. I personally think OOT far surpasses LTTP in every imaginable way.
cartman414
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Lots of emptiness in the overworld, few enemies to fight, too much time wandering between areas, the Water Temple having too much water to slowly traverse and not be able to quickly swim through...
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Any game that got a patch doesn't count! 
The Xtortionist
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I would say Metroid Prime if non-blue doors turned blue once opened. Oh well, still my 2nd favorite game.
Uh, Fusion and Zero Mission marked power-ups.
Uh, Fusion and Zero Mission marked power-ups.
Weekends with Multiplayer on this game, endless fun.
If those are negative traits, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are some of the worst games ever made.
Seriously, the overworld isn't that empty. Nor do you spend very much time wandering between areas. You're confusing Hyrule Field with the overworld. The field is bound to be empty at times... it's a field. In OOT, I never once thought "wow, this shit is empty as fuck, I wish there were more enemies!" Twilight Princess, on the other hand...
Never had a problem with the water temple. A Zora mask would have been nice, I suppose =
