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Gamespot: Capcom Acknowledges Mixed Reaction To Dead Rising 4
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CertifiedFP
Member
No amount of DLC and updates can fix a game that's rotten to the core, Capcpom.
Zombie James
Banned
Imagine that. Who could have seen this coming?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I'm not surprised. The people who didn't want the timer were the loudest and now they know the game is just below average without it.
ScientificPizza
Banned
At least they're acknowledging the problem, I guess
*If* there's a DR5 hopefully this forces them to course correct
*If* there's a DR5 hopefully this forces them to course correct
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I wouldn't call it a stinker. It's just boring after the second mission.
How would you turn zombies into Souls like enemies?
excuse me
Spiral Insanity
Banned
How about just stick to what made Dead Rising 1 so fantastic? Tension, survival, time limit.
CertifiedFP
Member
I don't think he means make it into a Souls game, but that accessibility isn't a necessity for success or sales, and the Souls games are an example of a successful but, to a degree, inaccessible series of games.
RazielCuts
Member
An Onimusha game? I like your thinking.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It needs the story and humor to make itself stand out from the millions of survival games.
Souls games are at a point where they are vastly accessible. We understand the genre better now compared to when Demon Souls came out.
Collateral22
Member
It just amazed me how many fundamental things DR1 did much better. More world interactivity, physics, zombies, sounds. That comparision video is sad and hilarious at the same time.
letmetrythisname
Member
Is "make it like Souls" the new "give it to Platinum?"
CertifiedFP
Member
...Huh, good point.
Yeah, they should totally give DR5 to Platinum and tell them to make it like Souls.
letmetrythisname
Member
I think both statements are dumb, but if I had to pick one of those two fates for Dead Rising, then Platinum it is.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Hmmmm, I would be down for a character-action DR game. Why not? The series now lets you do combos and shit.
me0wish
Member
He's saying screw accessibility, Souls series is an example that accessibility isn't essential to make a game successful.
freeofgreed
Member
I think his point is that creating a good game that builds on what works (like souls) will make for a far better product then simply trying to make your game appeal to the lowest common denominator
I think.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I remember watching a developer interview and the devs seemed like total assholes who wanted to inject their brand of "cool" into the game, and who were completely disconnected with what made the first game awesome.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Platinum just need to make a souls-like to complete the loop
THIS.
SONY PLEASE
notworksafe
Member
sounds familiar
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
When you take a popular series, that was successful and selling enough to warrant 3 sequels...and you take out pretty much every feature that made it unique and different...Well no shit, people won't be so keen on it. I really want to like Capcom again thanks to RE7, but then I remember what happened to Dead Rising and DMC, and Megaman.
ShockingAlberto
Member
More approachable is fine.
Being more approachable in a bad way is not fine.
Being more approachable in a bad way is not fine.
ShockingAlberto
Member
You know what games are like Souls
Souls games
You know what games are like Dead Rising
Dead Rising games
CertifiedFP
Member
The former is true.
The latter has been patently false this entire console gen.
Well DR1 was made by a completely different team.
entremet
Member
I was being cheeky.
However, it is strange that Capcom didn't see that difficulty isn't as big of a hindrance to a game's popularity as they gambled on with DR4.
They successfully, along with Nintendo, improved the clout of the most hardcore of franchises--Monster Hunter.
Strange that they would go the opposite with DR.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
TwiztidElf
Member
Completely agree. DR1 is in my top ten GOAT list.
Franchise death.
DR4 is an ok game, but garbage to me and what this franchise was. Fuck you Capcom.
This, how was getting rid of psychopaths more approachable?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Wait, did you like 3?
TheDinoman
Member
Retcon that terrible ending, while you're at it.
Killing Frank off? Really?
I seriously cannot express how much joy it gives me to see this miserable company struggle to explain to their shareholders how they are failing. Not only have they consistently made poor decisions which have alienated me from their franchises one after another since 2010, but they continue to remain one of the most embarrassing examples of nepotism in the Japanese game industry. Capcom can blow me, and until they make games I care about again, every failure they suffer just powers my schadenfreude energy beam.
No, I hated it. I gave it a fair shake, even tried co-op with a friend. It just felt like a miserable experience and was unoptimized as fuck on PC.
No, I hated it. I gave it a fair shake, even tried co-op with a friend. It just felt like a miserable experience and was unoptimized as fuck on PC.
Capcom (and those developing for the series under Capcom), there's a better way to handle this whole timer debacle. Design the game around the timer, then include an optional mode/setting that removes it. Stop trying to do the opposite!
It's just that simple. Oh, well, and stop dumbing down everything else too. "Bigger" is not always better. You've proven that it's quite frequently worse.
With a different engine too: the venerable MT Framework.
It's just that simple. Oh, well, and stop dumbing down everything else too. "Bigger" is not always better. You've proven that it's quite frequently worse.
With a different engine too: the venerable MT Framework.
Ricerocket
Member
Badly made game gets bad scores. You can still make it more accessible to a larger audience, you just chose an easy way out by removing anything hard or complex from the game.
You know how a large complaint of Dead Rising is about AI being shitty and they just run through piles of zombies requiring you to babysit them? Maybe work on that and make it better. Something like that goes a long way for the franchise than removing it and just making them run back to base as soon as you help them.
You know how a large complaint of Dead Rising is about AI being shitty and they just run through piles of zombies requiring you to babysit them? Maybe work on that and make it better. Something like that goes a long way for the franchise than removing it and just making them run back to base as soon as you help them.
I'm baffled by some of these comments.
I enjoyed Dead Rising 4 more than any Dead Rising game since DR1. And I thought I would hate the design choice to remove the timer.
Too easy? Correct.
Removing Psychopaths a bad move? Correct.
Leaving out multiplayer from the main campaign a bad move? Correct.
Collectibles basically worthless? Correct.
But I found myself surprisingly happy with this incarnation of Frank West: More aware of his faults & weaknesses, more assertive toward others, and even occasionally well-written.
Having the game set during Black Friday was brilliant. The mass consumerism nature of bargain shopping, the send-up of the ridiculous ways stores choose to express 'Christmas cheer,' the safe zones that acknowledge their own inexplicable inclusion (a nod and a wink to the player), etc.
I will absolutely revisit this game during the Christmas season some years later, accordingly - which is not something I can say about any previous Dead Rising game.
I enjoyed Dead Rising 4 more than any Dead Rising game since DR1. And I thought I would hate the design choice to remove the timer.
Too easy? Correct.
Removing Psychopaths a bad move? Correct.
Leaving out multiplayer from the main campaign a bad move? Correct.
Collectibles basically worthless? Correct.
But I found myself surprisingly happy with this incarnation of Frank West: More aware of his faults & weaknesses, more assertive toward others, and even occasionally well-written.
Having the game set during Black Friday was brilliant. The mass consumerism nature of bargain shopping, the send-up of the ridiculous ways stores choose to express 'Christmas cheer,' the safe zones that acknowledge their own inexplicable inclusion (a nod and a wink to the player), etc.
I will absolutely revisit this game during the Christmas season some years later, accordingly - which is not something I can say about any previous Dead Rising game.