Are you actually running games at 120fps because if not then you probably just upgraded from a monitor with bad input lag or response time. 60fps on 120hz won't make a difference unless you have Gsync.
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Are you actually running games at 120fps because if not then you probably just upgraded from a monitor with bad input lag or response time. 60fps on 120hz won't make a difference unless you have Gsync.
doniewhalberg
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Yup, see my post on first page man. Use my monitor for both PC and PS4, top stuff. It's at the very low end of your size range there though.
VlaudTheImpaler
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The fuck is this shit?
I mean, I'm sure 120hz is nice, but it sounds like he's coming from a plasma TV, where I think even a regular 60hz IPS panel would be more than good enough. I'm not sure what your experience with monitors is OP, but I think you've perhaps been scared off by some stuff you've read. The vast majority of PC gamers don't use 120hz and I'm sure they don't all feel they have 'worthless' monitors whatsoever. I know I sure as hell don't.
Canis lupus
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I don't think they're all overclockable, the ones that go over 60hz are priced much higher last I checked Ebay prices.
I think most are overclockable to 96hz, sometimes a bit higher, and there's a very specific model that gets to 120hz fairly reliably.
EDIT: Somebody correct me if I'm wrong - that was my understanding.
Does that really matter? It's still limited by the pixel response time. My NEC IPS panel can go up to 75Hz but it still looks blurry in motion.
The reason is because all IPS monitors around that time period were really terrible. Even today, LG still persists with the worse anti-glare coating on the market where it actually negatively impacts the image quality.
The only matte coating I've found acceptable are those found on monitors that use Samsung's PLS panels like the Eizo FS2332.
Yeah, it really is. I want to try other monitors, but I'm spoiled on the colors. I guess when I care and get enough GPU power the only upgrade is to a 1440p IPS OC panel.
Samsung made the best DDR3, HDD's, and 120Hz panels and now they are all discontinued. Booooooooooooooooooo
That's my understanding as well, but 85-100Hz for most of what people are buying now.
Recent IPS (e-IPS) that have low latency/input delay are fine.
thunder_snail
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Nah. Most IPS panels are better for gaming compared to VA panels. It's just the best VA panels are better but comes at a price.
The real difference between IPS and VA are : IPS displays have more vibrant colors but VA have better blacks.
IPS : Better in well lit room.
VA : Better in the dark.
I personally have an 27" amva and 27" ips and can't tell the difference in response time between the two. But that's just me.
WHAT! Samsung won't be selling their memories to consumers anymore? Why?
Talking about these legendary sticks: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
Easy 2133 or 2400Mhz
Probably not worth the hassle I guess. HDD was so cutthroat until the flood jacked up everything, OEM memory probably the same deal and they shifted attention to all their consumer end products.
Metal Gear?!
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It's more that Samsung is directing all their fabrication capacity for screens and memory into their phones, which actually make money.
As long as the game works fine with it.
Doubling the refresh rate improves regular VSync because it has twice the opportunities to sync the frame to, cutting potential judder and reducing the framerate hit.
As long as the game works fine with it.
The Ezio Fortis is a candidate for best gaming monitor available right now - it's 120Hz but unlike every single other 120Hz monitor it's VA panel tech so black levels and color are acceptable. It even has lightboost-like technology built in (inserting a black frame in between the real frames) without needing any additional hacks. That feature adds some latency though.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/eizo_fg2421.htm
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/eizo_fg2421.htm
I use 2 Dell 2713HM. While not exactly gaming monitors, they look amazing and they have decent upscalers for console gaming as well. The latency is 8MS which is nothing special really, but the games i play don't tend to suffer from it.
Don't think you can overclock them though, believe Dell puts some extra stuff in for the scaling and color reproduction.
Don't think you can overclock them though, believe Dell puts some extra stuff in for the scaling and color reproduction.
That Wont Fit In There
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I use an Asus IPS monitor. Colors are beautiful and rich. Refresh rate and input delay is on point.
Imp the Dimp
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How much longer until we get affordable 4k monitors?
As the owner of both a Korean 1440p IPS and a 1080p 144 Hz G-sync TN, I think it greatly depends on which type of games you want to play, and your priorities. 144 Hz and G-sync are great for response times and very demanding games, but TN picture quality is still terrible. Personally, I don't consider it worth the trade-off for most games, but that's also because I mostly play slower-paced games like RPGs. And am admittedly an IQ nut.
The Foris is a good option, but very expensive considering the resolution.
The Foris is a good option, but very expensive considering the resolution.
What utter bullshit. Like pretty much everything that's coming from W!CKED.
affordable is a relative term......... do you mean sub $300?
Imp the Dimp
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$500 ±100 bucks
Well, hey, he's right if you totally ignore the fact that, you know, there isn't a desktop monitor on the market that has the requisite capabilities in its scaler ASIC, and that's exactly the thing that Nvidia built...
Your statement:
"Every monitor with Display Port already supports dynamic refresh rates."
Fact:
Not a single (non-Gsync) desktop monitor with Display Port which you can buy right now has been demonstrated (or even claimed) to support variable refresh rates.
Verdict:
Bullshit.
For me a 120Hz screen decreases screen tearing enough to make it unnoticeable. So I don't have to bother with vsync, which introduces a shit ton of input lag. So it has it advantages even at 60fps.
You honestly expect every single existing monitor with Displayport to suddenly start supporting variable refresh rates? Wow. With some magic AMD driver I guess? When can we expect that to happen?
Sentenza
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I don't use a 120 hz monitor either, but I wouldn't consider anything less if I was going to buy a new one today, so I more or less agree with him.
Frankly at the moment I'm considering a Gsync monitor as soon as there will models with good image quality and reasonable prices available.
I'm currently using a dell 2209WA, but want to set it up as a second screen and get a 27" 1080p display for console/pc gaming. After some research, my best candidate so far is dell P2714H, which has only 5ms total lag according to tftcentral. The only downside is that it lacks HDMI 
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2714h.htm
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2714h.htm
Eizo FS2333 is not quite in your price range, but close, and much cheaper than the FG2421. It's 60Hz IPS with 3.4ms input lag, good black level, built-in speakers + headphone output. Pretty much optimal for 1080p @ 60Hz console and PC gaming.
thunder_snail
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When I read Flatron, I instantly thought crt. I am disappoint.
That sounds nice. Currently, I have vsync to adaptive so I get tearing when fps drops below 60, but it's still better than stuttering so I'm putting up with it. I should consider getting a high refresh monitor in the future.
Yeah it definitely has it advantages. Still looking back I should have gotten a beefier GPU, considering I'm still using an unlocked HD6950. However if your PC already up to snuff, I'd definitely consider it.
Uncle00Jesse
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The best monitor I've ever seen and the one I currently have is a Samsung 23A950 from 2011. Unbelievable color and 120fps. I don't think they are available anymore though.
I routinely go back and forth between my 120hz monitors and my Dell U3011. Yes there is more latency in the Dell, but the PQ destroys my Asus TN panels.
I also think I'm at the point where 23“ + 1080p is too small. The U3011 and it's resolution looks so good.
It's why I'm anxiously awaiting ASUS ROG Swift monitor. 27“,1440p, G sync. Not your standard TN panel either. Could really be the perfect monitor for gaming.
I also think I'm at the point where 23“ + 1080p is too small. The U3011 and it's resolution looks so good.
It's why I'm anxiously awaiting ASUS ROG Swift monitor. 27“,1440p, G sync. Not your standard TN panel either. Could really be the perfect monitor for gaming.
fluffydelusions
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I have this and it works fine for me:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236288
Lactose_Intolerant
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Sony GDM-FW900
Just hope your desk can support the weight. NM, you are going to use it for ps4 too.
Just hope your desk can support the weight. NM, you are going to use it for ps4 too.
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Nice backpedal!
I love it when people get caught telling flat out lies and then try to spin that shit to save face.
love gaming on my korean PCBank 3200 but my 680 can't push some games (witcher 2) at full details at 1440p and maintain an acceptable frame rate.
For those, I switch over to a 50" panasonic ST-60 which looks great and despite what some say, I notice zero input lag.
I'm eagerly awaiting a nice G-sync 27" 1440p panel though. Since I'm using a single GPU, my options seem limited to either getting a faster GPU to brute force push 60fps @ 1440p or buy a 2nd 1440p panel with gsync that will still offer me that smooth feeling game play.
For those, I switch over to a 50" panasonic ST-60 which looks great and despite what some say, I notice zero input lag.
I'm eagerly awaiting a nice G-sync 27" 1440p panel though. Since I'm using a single GPU, my options seem limited to either getting a faster GPU to brute force push 60fps @ 1440p or buy a 2nd 1440p panel with gsync that will still offer me that smooth feeling game play.
You could get the Dell P2414H.
http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-p2414h
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2414h.htm
One of the best "gaming" IPS screens atm. Quick response time and very low input lag -> only 5.5ms. Currently using it, no ghosting and great colours.
http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-p2414h
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2414h.htm
One of the best "gaming" IPS screens atm. Quick response time and very low input lag -> only 5.5ms. Currently using it, no ghosting and great colours.
You could get the Dell P2414H.
http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-p2414h
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2414h.htm
One of the best "gaming" IPS screens atm. Quick response time and very low input lag -> only 5.5ms. Currently using it, no ghosting and great colours.
This looks really good too. Does it use one of those annoying anti-glare panels that just look like they have a weird grainy texture on them?
It has anti-glare coating like almost all professional displays. The reviews linked above say it's not particularly aggressive.
I use an Eizo Foris FS2333 23" . IPS panel with 3.4ms response time. I'm very satisfied.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ASHTZYM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ASHTZYM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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