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[Durask]

When most people talk about gaming monitors they mean the really high refresh rate/1ms kind used for fast paced multiplayer FPS. What about monitors for people who want good color accuracy and picture quality? I've noticed that "gaming monitors" look horribly washed out when it comes to colors. Are there affordable monitors that have good response time but have anything close to a plasma in color or PQ? I use a plasma for console gaming but I need a new monitor for my PC and I might also play some PS4 using the monitor. My future PC build isn't going to aim for anything higher than 60fps most of the time so I don't need really high refresh rates. Before anyone mentions gsync, I still don't know if I'm going Nvidia or if those monitors will even be affordable.

I have two monitors - a TN 120 Hz for mostly gaming and a IPS 60 Hz for most other things.

After you try a 120 Hz monitor with Lightboost, you can't go back to anything else. Screw the colors. For gaming TN colors are more than enough. Smooth movement and lack of blur is incredible.

 

[Coreda]

One thing most people aren't aware of with 1440p monitors is they suffer from IPS glow - a soft white glow that appears on all four corners of the screen in dark scenes when the monitor is viewed at regular sitting distance. The photo below is exaggerated due to exposure, but it's just to illustrate.

This can be a deal-breaker for many new owners, especially gamers who like to play dark games/films, with many assuming it's backlight bleeding (BLB). It's inherent to the IPS tech, and more prominent in the H-IPS variety due to the thinness of the panels. The effect is less noticeable in a well-lit room, or with the brightness level reduced.

Just thought I'd share on this as I've also been looking at 1440p displays and have waded through all the issues users have reported of around 30+ monitors.

A good choice for an affordable 1440p gaming monitor from what I've read is the QNIX QX2710, which has both excellent color and can usually be overclocked up to 96-110hz. It can suffer from actual BLB but this can typically be fixed using electrical tape and some handiwork. It also can have PWM backlight flicker for those sensitive to it.

 

[jim2point0]

Honestly, I probably wouldn't recommend 27" at 1080p. With the distance you sit from a monitor, pixel density will likely be too small.

I'd agree. I had a 25" 1080p monitor for a while and even THAT seemed like a step down from the 23" ones I was using prior. I've since taken that monitor to work. 27" seems good for 2560x1440. 23" is all the higher I'll go for 1920x1080.

Comments like this make no sense to me at all.
I've seen 120hz... I don't get it.
I can barely tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps... am I missing something here?

Another perspective: I've seen 30 and I've seen 60. The difference is STAGGERING. Then, going up to 120 was mind-blowing. I don't see how you COULD miss that.

 

[Zafir]

As a Canadian, as much as I want to get one of those korean monitors, I just know i'm going to get screwed heavily with duties.

Most of the sellers seem to mark down. I only paid £18 on my monitor, which is far less than it should have been. It should have been roughly £70ish.

Another perspective: I've seen 30 and I've seen 60. The difference is STAGGERING. Then, going up to 120 was mind-blowing. I don't see how you COULD miss that.

I think when a lot of people say they don't notice the difference, it's not that they don't see the difference, it's more, it just doesn't bother them that much playing at 30FPS.

I can kind of relate, as someone who doesn't really play competitive online games much, there's other things which bother me more. Aliasing for example, just annoys me, and so I'm willing to accept a bit lower FPS just to get rid of jagged edges.

 

[Rhaxas]

Alright well, I have finalized my decision to be between these two monitors. Which one do you guys think I should get, if all I do is play Mobas?

Asus VG248QE
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

X-STAR DP2710LED
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matte-FREE-...x1440-Samsung-PLS-Panel-Monitor-/330932578190

 

[Water]

Alright well, I have finalized my decision to be between these two monitors. Which one do you guys think I should get, if all I do is play Mobas?
Asus VG248QE
X-STAR DP2710LED

The 1440p PLS screen, of course. Much better image quality and resolution, and you don't need >60Hz for MOBAs. If it happens to overclock, that's just a bonus.

 

[Timu]

The 1440p PLS screen, of course. Much better image quality and resolution, and you don't need >60Hz for MOBAs. If it happens to overclock, that's just a bonus.

It should get to 90hz easily, maybe 120hz.

 

[Tabris]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121221666168

I just bought this. I'm not sure if it can OC like the Qnix and more expensive monitors, but the out-of-the-box colors are amazing. I think the design is really good, considering the cost.

Yeah, the design is ugly here. I'm looking for something that looks sharp. Like TVs do nowadays.

 

[Appleman]

Why not use your plasma? I use a 50" Panasonic S60 as my only monitor. Great IQ, and good latency.

Oh god, 1080p at that size? What's the point of such a huge monitor if you get less real estate than a standard 27"/30"?

 

[Coreda]

Yeah, the design is ugly here. I'm looking for something that looks sharp. Like TVs do nowadays.

I think it looks rather nice mounted on a VESA arm bracket.

Personally I'm fond of the Crossover 2735AMG/2755AMG (left). I love the virtually bezel-free look of the 24" Dell 2414H (right), but it's 1080p, as is the 27" HP 27xi.

 

[styl3s]

Anything with a refresh rate under 120hz is completely worthless as a gaming monitor.

Considering i don't have a $8000 PC i can't run all these games at 1440p/120fps maxed out. Or even on Medium. I don't see how a 60hz monitor is worthless when most people are fine with 30-60fps.

 

[Rhaxas]

The 1440p PLS screen, of course. Much better image quality and resolution, and you don't need >60Hz for MOBAs. If it happens to overclock, that's just a bonus.

Thanks I ordered the PLS. Can't wait to see how it looks!

 

[mkenyon]

People in this thread should check out this thread.

Considering i don't have a $8000 PC i can't run all these games at 1440p/120fps maxed out. Or even on Medium. I don't see how a 60hz monitor is worthless when most people are fine with 30-60fps.

You can run most games at 120 fps with a $800-1000 PC, or even a decent PC from a few years ago.

One of the guys on my team uses a 2500K and 560Ti, most games run at 120 FPS just fine.

The 1440p PLS screen, of course. Much better image quality and resolution, and you don't need >60Hz for MOBAs. If it happens to overclock, that's just a bonus.

Shenanigans. Dota is so much better on 120Hz. Plus you get to turn off shitty v-sync and not deal with frame tearing.

 

[HazzardousFX]

Monitors by far have better input lag times and are better for gaming than TVs...

Check the information on this site www.displaylag.com

I can have my TV and monitor hooked up to a computer, using duplicate settings.

When I hit an icon to pull up say Google Chrome... You can literally see it open

faster on the monitor.

Running a Viewsonic VX2370SMH-LED Monitor, and a Samsung LED Smart TV 46"

 

[Alo81]

People in this thread should check out this thread.


You can run most games at 120 fps with a $800-1000 PC, or even a decent PC from a few years ago.

One of the guys on my team uses a 2500K and 560Ti, most games run at 120 FPS just

I have a 570. This is true, but absolutely not on high settings, and most of the time without AA.

I have a 120hz screen and I struggle to maintain 60fps with high settings in quite a few modern games, and 120fps is a far target for a lot more if I want high settings.

And a 570 is pretty reasonably more powerful than a 560ti.

 

[SapientWolf]

Considering i don't have a $8000 PC i can't run all these games at 1440p/120fps maxed out. Or even on Medium. I don't see how a 60hz monitor is worthless when most people are fine with 30-60fps.

I'm on a struggle PC from 2009 and the 120hz monitor is the only reason why I don't have tearing and microstutter when I disable vsync.

 

[Freki]

I'm on a struggle PC from 2009 and the 120hz monitor is the only reason why I don't have tearing and microstutter when I disable vsync.

How does 120Hz prevent tearing without vsync? I'm genuinely interested as tearing make me go crazy...

 

[Water]

How does 120Hz prevent tearing without vsync? I'm genuinely interested as tearing make me go crazy...

It doesn't prevent tearing. It just causes the tearing to be on screen for 1/120 seconds instead of 1/60, so it will be less distracting for everybody, and fewer people will notice it at all.

 

[thunder_snail]

It doesn't prevent tearing. It just causes the tearing to be on screen for 1/120 seconds instead of 1/60, so it will be less distracting for everybody, and fewer people will notice it at all.

I'm guessing the game has to be running close to 120 fps for tearing to be not noticeable? So only g-sync monitors will prevent tearing for games running around 60 fps?

 

[SapientWolf]

It doesn't prevent tearing. It just causes the tearing to be on screen for 1/120 seconds instead of 1/60, so it will be less distracting for everybody, and fewer people will notice it at all.

I think think the likelihood of tearing goes down as the refresh rate increases, especially when the ratio of refreshes to frames is high. And the tearing that does happen is far less noticeable on top of that. Gsync is the best of both worlds, in terms of tearing and input lag.

 

[funkypie]

Hi.

Was wondering if anyone could recommend a 120 hz monitor to me. budget is around £150/$250.

I hate motion blur with passion and 24inch 1080p is more than fine for me for size and resolution.

 

[Water]

I think think the likelihood of tearing goes down as the refresh rate increases, especially when the ratio of refreshes to frames is high.

Weird - I think it should clearly be the opposite.

Assuming fast TN refreshes of equal duration, more Hz = more refreshes per second = higher probability that a refresh is happening at a given time. Tearing occurs when the display buffer is flipped during a refresh. 120Hz should tear twice as often as 60Hz at equal framerate.

 

[Zafir]

Hi.

Was wondering if anyone could recommend a 120 hz monitor to me. budget is around £150/$250.

I hate motion blur with passion and 24inch 1080p is more than fine for me for size and resolution.

Where do you live? I don't think you'll find one for £150 if you live in the UK. Cheapest one when I was weighing up my options was £230ish.

 

[weremichael]

I've read quite a few threads here and on Tom's Hardware and I am really not much closer to a monitor purchase. What I want: a 27" 1440 monitor so I can play some Titanfall on, so my wife can grade papers on (with our current 22" monitor also hooked up to the same computer), watch some buzzfeed, geek and sundry, and vice, play some Civ V etc...

The contenders:

Monoprice 27" IPS-ZERO-G

ASUS PB278Q

BenQ XL2720T

QNIX QX2710

but I am definitely open for suggestions. I don't need speakers because I already have some M-Audio studio monitors and I'll wear headphones when I'm gaming @ night.

So what do ya'll think? Which monitor should I get?

 

[Zafir]

I've read quite a few threads here and on Tom's Hardware and I am really not much closer to a monitor purchase. What I want: a 27" 1440 monitor so I can play some Titanfall on, so my wife can grade papers on (with our current 22" monitor also hooked up to the same computer), watch some buzzfeed, geek and sundry, and vice, play some Civ V etc...

The contenders:

Monoprice 27" IPS-ZERO-G

Asus VG278HE

BenQ GW2750HM

but I am definitely open for suggestions. I don't need speakers because I already have some M-Audio studio monitors and I'll wear headphones when I'm gaming @ night.

So what do ya'll think? Which monitor should I get?

Only the monoprice one is 1440p out of the ones you've linked?

 

[SapientWolf]

Weird - I think it should clearly be the opposite.

Assuming fast TN refreshes of equal duration, more Hz = more refreshes per second = higher probability that a refresh is happening at a given time. Tearing occurs when the display buffer is flipped during a refresh. 120Hz should tear twice as often as 60Hz at equal framerate.

But the time where the frame is displayed before the next refresh is half as long. Less time to be interrupted by another frame.

 

[weremichael]

Only the monoprice one is 1440p out of the ones you've linked?

That's because I'm a spaz and have had a looonnngg day. I went back and fixed to the correct links in my first post.

 

[makeitawkward]

It sounds like the PG278Q (ASUS SWIFT ROG) is now going to be delayed until May/June.

I currently have a GTX 770 4GB and I fully intended on getting that monitor, and possible another 770, but I'm not sure if I want to wait that long.

What do you guys think of the VG248QE? It's only $280 at the moment and I can just wait until 4K gaming becomes more reasonable?

 

[nynt9]

So I got a Qnix QX2710 and I was wondering, is there a way for me to plug HDMI into this? I'd like to be able to play my PS4 on the same monitor as my PC.

 

[Timu]

So I got a Qnix QX2710 and I was wondering, is there a way for me to plug HDMI into this? I'd like to be able to play my PS4 on the same monitor as my PC.

DVI to HDMI cable from what I heard.

 

[nynt9]

DVI to HDMI cable from what I heard.

Would just an adapter work or do I need a powered device?

 

[Bronetta]

Would just an adapter work or do I need a powered device?

Just an adapter will work.

 

[Water]

But the time where the frame is displayed before the next refresh is half as long. Less time to be interrupted by another frame.

If I understand your meaning correctly, that goes under "tearing is less noticeable" and doesn't refute what I said (a 120Hz display tears twice as often as 60Hz)?

 

[SuicidalSteve]

Alright well, I have finalized my decision to be between these two monitors. Which one do you guys think I should get, if all I do is play Mobas?

Asus VG248QE
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

X-STAR DP2710LED
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matte-FREE-...x1440-Samsung-PLS-Panel-Monitor-/330932578190

I have got the asus monitor and I am pretty happy with what I am seeing

 

[nynt9]

Ok, another question here. What if I try to plug both my PC (via DL-DVI) and my PS4 (via HDMI) into the DVI port of this? For my old HDTV I used an HDMI switcher with 3 inputs and one output, but I don't think I can use the same setup here without significant bandwidth loss ( PC->DVI->HDMI adapter->HDMI switch->DVI adapter->Monitor; Console->HDMI->HDMI switch->DVI adapter->Monitor). I can't seem to find a DVI switcher so I can just go PC->DVI->DVI switcher->Monitor; Console->HDMI->DVI adapter->DVI switcher->Monitor. Is there such a product, or am I doomed to manually change cables every time I want to switch from console to PC?

 

[-COOLIO-]

Anything with a refresh rate under 120hz is completely worthless as a gaming monitor.

uh huh, uh huh, okay.

congrats on your recent purchase.

 

[Skyfireblaze]

Sorry for the bump but I still thought that would be the best thread to ask in: After I got used to my LG 23 ET 83 V-W I really love it with my PC, PS3 and PS4 though there's one thing... Well since everything looking so awesome with it I was all hyped to finally try my Wii U and Super Mario 3D World with it, shortly after turning it on my face looked like this

I forgot the Wii U runs on Limited Range RGB and I know monitors expect Full Range making the Wii U image look really dull. Is there any setting that I could change for that on the monitor or do I have to keep playing Wii U games on my TV? :/

I heard changing the Black Level setting on some screens from High to Low can help and my LG has such a setting but it really doesn't seem to do anything but darkening the image overall.