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Gears of War 4: Review Thread

Both Forza and UC4 say otherwise. It's still possible to get them 90+ MC scores, but maybe most devs just ran out of new / innovative ideas to develop their proceeding IPs. And maybe it's just me, but from my point of view we just saw far less new exciting / critically acclaimed IPs this generation. I mean, we are 3 years into this generation and their number can be counted on the fingers of one hand for each system.

While I think it's quite clearly not a case of "85 today is a 95 of early last gen"... I do think there are plenty of cases where a game early last gen could score within the 95 region, but would score in the realm of 85 if released in exactly the same form (except with modern graphics) today. This makes quite a bit of sense if we assume that newer games build on the knowledge of those that came before, otherwise you'd need to go above 100 in short order.

Forza Motorsport 6 (since you use Forza as an example) has 86 on metacritic, and it honestly beats the breaks off Forza Motorsport 3. The difference is that it doesn't beat other games relative to its time in the same manner as FM3 did in 2009. Forza Horizon 3 despite sharing the Forza brand is a completely different matter and makes nearly anything you directly compare it to look pretty bad, which is why it scores so highly. I haven't played UC4 (not much of an Uncharted fan), but I'd guess its the same with that too, in order to warrant its scores.

It's definitely true that reviewers certainly aren't handing out crazy high scores like they were last gen though. Back then almost anything with a budget was a lock for 90+. The current review curve is far better imo.
 
While I think it's quite clearly not a case of "85 today is a 95 of early last gen"... I do think there are plenty of cases where a game early last gen could score within the 95 region, but would score in the realm of 85 if released in exactly the same form (except with modern graphics) today. This makes quite a bit of sense if we assume that newer games build on the knowledge of those that came before, otherwise you'd need to go above 100 in short order.

Forza Motorsport 6 (since you use Forza as an example) has 86 on metacritic, and it honestly beats the breaks off Forza Motorsport 3. The difference is that it doesn't beat other games relative to its time in the same manner as FM3 did in 2009. Forza Horizon 3 despite sharing the Forza brand is a completely different matter and makes nearly anything you directly compare it to look pretty bad, which is why it scores so highly. I haven't played UC4 (not much of an Uncharted fan), but I'd guess its the same with that too, in order to warrant its scores.

It's definitely true that reviewers certainly aren't handing out crazy high scores like they were last gen though. Back then almost anything with a budget was a lock for 90+. The current review curve is far better imo.

I agree with all of this post. A lot of player expectations seem to be calibrated to the old standard, though, thus the "less than a 90 is a questionable score" mentality.
 
Must say i am just happy to see that Coalition seems to be a pretty good studio. Its really their first game.
Technical wise the game looks good also. Even on PC. But wait and see first for that. But impressions are good.
 
Great score might buy it depending on user reviews too. I think people are a bit silly to think 85 = not great, it is a great score.
 
While I think it's quite clearly not a case of "85 today is a 95 of early last gen"... I do think there are plenty of cases where a game early last gen could score within the 95 region, but would score in the realm of 85 if released in exactly the same form (except with modern graphics) today. This makes quite a bit of sense if we assume that newer games build on the knowledge of those that came before, otherwise you'd need to go above 100 in short order.

Forza Motorsport 6 (since you use Forza as an example) has 86 on metacritic, and it honestly beats the breaks off Forza Motorsport 3. The difference is that it doesn't beat other games relative to its time in the same manner as FM3 did in 2009. Forza Horizon 3 despite sharing the Forza brand is a completely different matter and makes nearly anything you directly compare it to look pretty bad, which is why it scores so highly. I haven't played UC4 (not much of an Uncharted fan), but I'd guess its the same with that too, in order to warrant its scores.

It's definitely true that reviewers certainly aren't handing out crazy high scores like they were last gen though. Back then almost anything with a budget was a lock for 90+. The current review curve is far better imo.
Completely agree, great post.
 
Just want to say congratulations to Coalition on delivering what seems to be a great game. Also, Rod being on the team I think really helped.

Can't wait to finally play it.
 
Right and tons and tons of commercials during football games. So your point of marketing new IP's is what? They do.

I didn't see these tons and tons of adverts, I didn't see anywhere near the market push they give a Gears or Halo. That's my point. I don't see big splash out events online or on the UI for these sort of games. A banner on the store is the closest I have seen.

Here in the U.K. at launch for that game, not one box of that game was on the shop floor of a major retailer I visit to buy games, a couple of copies behind the counter, I bought one.

We obviously don't agree on this and I don't want to derail the thread so if you want to discuss more DM me dude, no probs.
 
85 means it's good, better than good. Not a masterpiece maybe not the best in the series, but you should probably buy it if you're looking for a new game.
 
Reviews are pretty meaningless to a point anyway.

There have been many badly reviewed games that have been great, and lots of well received reviews for games that have been awful.

I have no doubts that Gears 4 is a solid entry for anyone that likes the Gears of War games.
 
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i'm really REALLY surprised that it got above 80+ which is awesome for me, i haven't played an xbox one exclusive single player game since Ori and the blind forest( Tomb Raider doesn't count)

but still, an 85 for a Gears of War game?? that's not good, imagine if Uncharted 4 scored 85 ? that would have been a flop

i feel bad for the people who got all hyped and bought an xbox one for the game, i told you not to get hyped, the game is obviously not a flop like Quantum break\ The order 1886, but for a Gears of War game ?? that's a flop

be warned, the next one will be The last Guardian, do not get hyped

You said the game wouldn't get above 80 on MetaCritic. It did. You said the game would flop like Quantum Break, No Mans Sky and The Order 1886. Its not even out yet. Your 0 for 2. You hardly told anyone anything.
 
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i'm really REALLY surprised that it got above 80+ which is awesome for me, i haven't played an xbox one exclusive single player game since Ori and the blind forest( Tomb Raider doesn't count)

but still, an 85 for a Gears of War game?? that's not good, imagine if Uncharted 4 scored 85 ? that would have been a flop

i feel bad for the people who got all hyped and bought an xbox one for the game, i told you not to get hyped, the game is obviously not a flop like Quantum break\ The order 1886, but for a Gears of War game ?? that's a flop

be warned, the next one will be The last Guardian, do not get hyped


This is a fucking joke, right? FFS....


I love gaming.....I can't fucking stand gamers.
 
Can someone post some impressions on the audio? I'm someone who just needs great audio in games, I put it up there right beside visuals.

I'm at work so it's a bit difficult to go through all the reviews.
 
Sounding good! Glad the PC version apparently turned out great, as did the new horde mode.
 
You can't really compare scores across trends. I'd say in the previous gen an 85 would be worth less. But at the same time it would be stupid to assign numerical "worth" to something so nebulous.

I'm not comparing trends really, just interesting to see how The Coalition handle Gears from now on vs. how the reception was for 343 when they took over Halo. I thought the campaign in Halo 4 was reasonable (wasn't a fan of the Prometheans though), but it took a bit of time for the multiplayer backlash to happen.
 
I bet you guys complaining about the score dont even have a 70/100 personality.

8.5 is a great score, and not everyone loves a broTPS to death as some of us. The game is a technical marvel and the story and dialogue are silly cheese fun.
 
Both Forza and UC4 say otherwise. It's still possible to get them 90+ MC scores, but maybe most devs just ran out of new / innovative ideas to develop their proceeding IPs. And maybe it's just me, but from my point of view we just saw far less new exciting / critically acclaimed IPs this generation. I mean, we are 3 years into this generation and their number can be counted on the fingers of one hand for each system.
Naughty Dog is the most talented dev in the industry. That's not a fair standard to hold everyone else to. 85 (or whatever it's at now) is a very nice score for Gears.
 
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i'm really REALLY surprised that it got above 80+ which is awesome for me, i haven't played an xbox one exclusive single player game since Ori and the blind forest( Tomb Raider doesn't count)

but still, an 85 for a Gears of War game?? that's not good, imagine if Uncharted 4 scored 85 ? that would have been a flop

i feel bad for the people who got all hyped and bought an xbox one for the game, i told you not to get hyped, the game is obviously not a flop like Quantum break\ The order 1886, but for a Gears of War game ?? that's a flop

be warned, the next one will be The last Guardian, do not get hyped

I actually have a pretty good feeling Gears 4 is going to be a better GoW experience than Uncharted 4 was as a UC game.
 
Reviews don't mean shit these days. Look at UC4 +90 at MC, visuals aside, the game was really boring IMO.

UC4 was a really good game with pacing issues in the first half of the story. Still the the story and new more open world was a great addition to the series. It deserved it's scores.
 
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i'm really REALLY surprised that it got above 80+ which is awesome for me, i haven't played an xbox one exclusive single player game since Ori and the blind forest( Tomb Raider doesn't count)

but still, an 85 for a Gears of War game?? that's not good, imagine if Uncharted 4 scored 85 ? that would have been a flop

i feel bad for the people who got all hyped and bought an xbox one for the game, i told you not to get hyped, the game is obviously not a flop like Quantum break The order 1886, but for a Gears of War game ?? that's a flop

be warned, the next one will be The last Guardian, do not get hyped

"I was wrong, but I'm going to spin it so I can still say I was right and stroke my ego and pretend I'm important."
 
Ars Technica

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/...t-gen-is-now-if-youre-on-windows-10-at-least/

They seem to think the campaign is horrible and the AI sucks. Haven't read other reviews yet so I dunno where that sits. After liking the original 3 but not being able to complete Judgement for the shit campaign I hope not.

Ars Technica said:
The ugly:

The entire campaign mode. In my dream world, fans would be given the option to drop $20 from the box price to skip it.

Like anyone plays gears for its story, lol.
 
There seems to be a lot of comparisons about Uncharted and Gears in here.

Uncharted is praised for its story, and Gears is praised for its mechanics and multiplayer

Gears is criticised for its story, and Uncharted is criticised for its mechanics.

Neither criticism of which is poor, but just solid.

We can fight about this stuff all day, but that will remain the case regardless of scores. Gears will be best in class when it comes to gameplay mechanics, and Uncharted will be best in terms of story.
 
I can't believe people still care about Metascores. If a game gets reviewed well enough by outlets you like, why isn't that good enough?
 
Naughty Dog is the most talented dev in the industry. That's not a fair standard to hold everyone else to. 85 (or whatever it's at now) is a very nice score for Gears.

Yes they're definitely one of the most talented team of the industry but their last game is pretty average and I don't think it deserve 90+ meta, a 7.5/8 out of ten is more realistic to me for UC4.

I don't know how I'll rate Gears 4 at the end but the meta/open critic score is exactly what I predicted a long time ago as many other people did. we know for a long time that Coalition plays it safe because its their first game and they have to make sure we forget about Judgement and I think it's ok for the score to be lower because of it and ok as well for Coalition to play it safe as long as their next Gears will take more risks.
 
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