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George Lucas Making Changes to Star Wars Saga... Again

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Gary Whitta said:
I really don't understand the obsession with fixing every little technical mistake. It's part of the history of cinema to be able to look back at these movies and see what the techniques and abilities and weaknesses of the time were. Do we really want to see a new version of JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS where Harryhausen's pioneering stop-motion work is replaced with CG?

I really have no problem with Lucas making any changes he wants so long as the original versions are preserved for our enjoyment too. But it's like he is erasing the originals from existence. That's tantamount to vandalism.
That's the thing. They're not doing that.

Once again, look at Adywan's Star Wars Revisited. That fixes technical problems, like goofs, there's comparisons of dozens of little things fixed for continuity or mistakes corrected.

These special editions? They fi a couple of problems (and create some new ones) like the matte in the Death Star's detention zone for example, but leave countless ones untouched, including very noticeable ones (like the lightsabers), instead most of their changes are stupid little additions like a CG robot flying in front of the screen for no reason.
 
Zombie James said:
"Lucasfilm says it's true. Darth says "NO" on the Blu-ray."

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Gary Whitta said:
Who gives a shit?

Curiosity. I think that these will be the worst and even more pointless than the changes to the original trilogy, considering that when he made them he had the tech and had the vision, but he's had years to think "You know, I want Jar-Jar's fart to be louder and longer."

It's like watching an someone with OCD sharpening pencils - if he ends up making one too short, he has to go back and redo them all. He'll never be satisfied.
 
Ithil said:
That's the thing. They're not doing that.

Once again, look at Adywan's Star Wars Revisited. That fixes technical problems, like goofs, there's comparisons of dozens of little things fixed for continuity or mistakes corrected.

The original Obi-Wan vs. Vader fight was a technical problem? I've only seen bits of that fan edit, but I hated it all.
 
fallengorn said:
It's Yub Nub not Jub Jub.


It is what you believe it to be. Search inside yourself. You know it to be true.



JUB JUB.

I was there man. I was there on day one. Odeon Cinema, Edinburgh, premiere night, 1983. I was 12, and I sneaked into the theater because it had been sold out for weeks. DON'T TELL ME IT'S NOT JUB JUB IT'S JUB JUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'll tell my ROTJ story. I saw it when it first came out in 1983, I was 11 years old. My dad took me to see it at the old Dominion cinema in London; the Dominion is now a big West End theater. It was one of the big formative cinematic experiences of my life; I can trace the origins of wanting to be a screenwriter to specific moments in that movie.

When we came out they were selling ROTJ t-shirts in the lobby. I asked my dad if I could have one and he said no. As we left the theater I started crying because I was so affected by the the awesomeness and emotional power of the film's ending. My dad thought I was crying because I couldn't have a t-shirt so he took me back in to get me one. I didn't correct him because I was happy to get that t-shirt.
 
TAJ said:
The original Obi-Wan vs. Vader fight was a technical problem? I've only seen bits of that fan edit, but I hated it all.
Funnily enough, Adywan expected some people to dislike that change, so he went ahead and made two versions of the fanedit, both with all the technical fixes and improvements, but only one with the changed Obi-Wan/Vader duel and new Death Star approach. The other was identical to ANH from 1977 in content.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
I am blasting this shit in the office rtight now and the PEOPLE ARE GETTING DOWN.
Remind me to never get a job at your place

We play the Special Edition Ewok celebration and people are slow-dancing
 
Bob White said:
I don't know why, but every time I see a new canceled order pic, it really makes me feel good inside. Like...really fucking good.
The set will still be the fastest selling blu ray package ever.
 
Medalion said:
So what, you can cancel it, and show yer a big hero but we all know you will walk into a store and buy it and not tell us

That is most likely what will happen.

I was all for the set, but hearing about some of the nasty picture quality issues I am wavering. I will wait for reviews.
 
alr1ghtstart said:
only the most disillusioned fanboy would believe it was fake.
It just sounds so bad and makes so little sense, I figured it could very likely be a fan edit using the infamy of the "Noooo" to parody the kind of changes Lucas has made to the OT.
 
Gary Whitta said:
I managed to get a few of my Twitter followers to cancel their pre-orders. Small victories!

This shit makes me so glad that i dont preorder, fucking shame that he did this shit.


People need to get the word out, to encourage others to not buy this shit.


Edit: Having heard the "nooo," i actually dont think it's bad, it's nowhere near the shit he did to the rest of the trilogy (Jaba scene, Greedo, Ewok Song, and this change is miles better then the fucking Luke scream at the end of empire), but it's still completely unnecessary, fuck him.
 
Every single one of those people cancelling their BD pre-orders because they thought they would be getting the non-SEs are idiots for placing the pre-order in the first place.
 
Morn said:
Every single one of those people cancelling their BD pre-orders because they thought they would be getting the non-SEs are idiots for placing the pre-order in the first place.
When did they say that? Ever?

They simply weren't expecting MORE changes, and some of the worst yet, I might add.
 
Morn said:
Every single one of those people cancelling their BD pre-orders because they thought they would be getting the non-SEs are idiots for placing the pre-order in the first place.
Not at all, these are people who ordered the BDs before the full extent of the changes were revealed.
 
More ROTJ changes:


Nien Nunb finally gets subtitles, but all he does is complain about the radio station.

Max Rebo Band also includes a bass guitarist, a tuba player, and a guy in a Greedo mask blowing into jugs.

The end celebration features a scene on Hoth, where a jubilant tauntaun gets eaten by a wampa.

General Madine pauses his strategy session for a cool, refreshing drink of Pepsi.

Sixteen minutes added to the speeder bike chase.
 
Morn said:
Every single one of those people cancelling their BD pre-orders because they thought they would be getting the non-SEs are idiots for placing the pre-order in the first place.
I preordered after initial PR said they would fix a lot of the errors from previous rereleases. Guess nothing was fixed.
 
Zombie James said:
"Lucasfilm says it's true. Darth says "NO" on the Blu-ray."

Hopefully they mean Sidious when he's falling down the pipe.

...

Oh who am I kidding. I'm rather tempted to pre-order this garbage now, just so that I can have the pleasure of cancelling it and leaving a shitty message.
 
Morn said:
Every single one of those people cancelling their BD pre-orders because they thought they would be getting the non-SEs are idiots for placing the pre-order in the first place.

I ordered for a number of reasons, chief among them were: deleted scenes, superior picture & sound quality, and digital TPM Yoda replacing that creepy ass puppet. I knew full well going in that Lucas would be hawking his bastardizations, but that was an accepted and known feature. I've had over a decade to come to terms with the Greedo thing, the CG nonsense, the dance numbers, Luke yelling during his fall, Hayden the Friendly Ghost, etc.

But The No fucking ruins one of the finer storytelling moments of the Original Trilogy, shits all over John Williams' epic score, and significantly taints Vader's redemption. Not to mention all of the issue with the picture quality that have come to light. This shit is unacceptable.
 
Snaku said:
I ordered for a number of reasons, chief among them were: deleted scenes, superior picture & sound quality, digital TPM Yoda replacing that creepy ass puppet. I knew full well going in that Lucas would be hawking his bastardizations, but that was an accepted and known feature. I've had over a decade to come to terms with the Greedo thing, the CG nonsense, the dance numbers, Luke yelling during his fall, Hayden the Friendly Ghost, etc.

But The No fucking ruins one of the finer storytelling moments of the Original Trilogy, shits all over John Williams' epic score, and significantly taints Vader's redemption. Not to mention all of the issue with the picture quality that have come to light. This shit is unacceptable.

People are complaining about picture quality from a compressed Blu-Ray rip.

If there was a thread on the Gaming Forum where people were bitching about a game crashing because they pirated it; they'd be banned.
 
I seriously think the guys at ILM sit down and start thinking up crazy ideas just for giggles, then they walk up to george for his approval, he loves them and we get this excellent remastered blurays!
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