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George Lucas Making Changes to Star Wars Saga... Again
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DiipuSurotu
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And yet it was the most useless subplot since even if Luke hadn't gone to fight Palpatine the Rebels would still have destroyed the Death Star anyway.Furret said:
DiipuSurotu said:
I'm confused on how you are judging it to be useless? Are you viewing Return of the Jedi as simply the story of the destruction of the second Death Star or the culmination of the story of the Skywalkers? Personally, I've always seen Return of the Jedi as being the culmination of the story of the Skywalkers (Vader and Luke) and because of that, what you are describing as a useless subplot to me is probably the most essential part of the story...
Really? If Luke hadn't gone to confront Vader and Palpatine, do you really think Palpatine still would have died? The destruction of the Death Star and the crippling of the Imperial fleet was meaningless compared to the death of Palpatine. Also, if you take the EU into account, the destruction of the Death Star would have been unlikely had Luke not confronted Palpatine.DiipuSurotu said:
DiipuSurotu
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It's been a long time since I saw the film but weren't Luke/Vader/Palpatine IN the Death Star? My understanding is that, regardless of Luke's action, the Rebels would have blown up the Death Star from space anyway, thus killing Vader and Palpatine inside (unless they would have had the time to escape had Luke not distracted them, I guess).Pie Lord said:
I'm not taking into account the EU partly because Lucas didn't and partly because I didn't read much of it.
I mean from a practical point of view and that of the Rebels. Obviously storywise it was the most important part of the saga.RyanDG said:
Anth0ny said:
that was great
Also one could argue that Luke distracted The Emporer and Vader from the more pressing issue, the attack on the death star, with their... exchange.
Also, even if the death star was blown up, he could have escaped like alot of the crew did, Luke managed to save Vaders body. The death of the emporer was the nail in the coffin, the death star had been destroyed before.
Gary Whitta
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I always thought the Kaminoans were one of the more technically impressive things in the prequels, I just never felt like they belonged in the Star Wars universe. Just me.
Buckethead
Banned
Surface blur on Natalie looks nice.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/78713
ROTS also has contrast/gamma fuckery done to it. The whites are pretty badly crushed -- look at the little neck crease around that thing Padme's wearing. It's completely washed away in the middle on the Blu-ray.
ROTS also has contrast/gamma fuckery done to it. The whites are pretty badly crushed -- look at the little neck crease around that thing Padme's wearing. It's completely washed away in the middle on the Blu-ray.
Gary Whitta
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The prequels always looked like they were made of plastic, the DNR is just accentuating the already fake look.
Ether_Snake
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So they really made if softer so it would match the CG, lol!
faceless007
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Medalion said:
I don't know why everyone focuses on Jar-Jar, clearly that's the most impressive CGI character ILM's ever done.
DrForester
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Medalion said:
This one's for fistful
Natalie Portman's never looked smoother or waxier in her whole life
I see a dark vein on the right side of her neck...
Charoncaori
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They remind me of theMedalion said:
robots
Count Dookkake
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Charoncaori said:
There is a reason for that.
Lucas has admitted that he liked those guys.
funkystudent
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ok so not only does Lucas make more silly edits and tweaks but they are also crappy conversions?
LOVE IT!
LOVE IT!
Medalion said:
I don't know...
With today's technology, and some real dedication behind it, a technicolor print of the original Star Wars could go a long way. Just look at that shot above. It's a 34 year old print and it looks immaculate!
maybe not quite Avatar or Tron quality, but those are the best of the best and are, like, a year old. A movie from 1977 looking even close would be incredible.
The CGI quality it is what it is, but the picture quality transfer has nothing to do with age.Medalion said:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Taxi-Driver-Blu-ray/1105/#Screenshots
Amazing looking "old-ish" film.
PhoncipleBone
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Aigis said:
Yup. Many people dont get that. A proper restoration with lots of time, love, and money thrown at it can yield incredible results. Blade Runner and the Alien series are prime examples. Those were mind boggling restorations. I was also fortunate enough to see a 35mm print of the Blade Runner final cut a few years ago. The stuff of dreams.
DrForester
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Aigis said:
"It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World", a 1963 comedy (Greatest comedy film ever) was put out on Blu Ray a month ago, I bought it since it was a budget release and the movie looks amazing.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=25491&position=7
PhoncipleBone
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mattp said:
Back in late 2007 and early 2008, WB made a few prints and did a roadshow type tour. The Caroling Theater in Durham, NC got the print for one week (or maybe 2) in early 08. So I did everything in my power to get there for at least one showing before we moved out of NC.
My god, it was gorgeous seeing that film on the big screen.
The Outsider
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I had already accepted Lucas fiddling around with the films, since that's pretty much going not going to stop.
But yikes at the DNR, CG, and just general laziness with all of the transfers. I was looking forward to watching the films again, but I don't think I can even bring myself to purchasing such a poor set.
Ah well. Should've known, right?
But yikes at the DNR, CG, and just general laziness with all of the transfers. I was looking forward to watching the films again, but I don't think I can even bring myself to purchasing such a poor set.
Ah well. Should've known, right?
PhoncipleBone
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mattp said:
The local theater here in CT has done many older movies lately, but usually they are just digital copies played on the big screen. But it is a totally different experience seeing great movies on a huge screen with an audience.
The entire LOTR Extended trilogy was incredible a few months ago, as was seeing Halloween and The Thing.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Medalion said:
You've never seen the restoration of Gone With The Wind, Metropolis, or City of the Living Dead have you?
I can assure you an old movie can look fantastic restored and in HD, easily better than "Avatar or Tron quality."
i had accepted all the bullshit changes, too. i was ready to begrudgingly buy that blu-ray set, but the nooo at the end of jedi totally pushed me over the edge. now that i'm seeing the transfer is half-assed bullshit it makes it even easier to say fuck it and not buy it
i already spent my money on the lotr ee set anyway. much better money spent
i'll be putting my harmy despecialized dvds into my old star wars dvd box set and calling it a day
i already spent my money on the lotr ee set anyway. much better money spent
i'll be putting my harmy despecialized dvds into my old star wars dvd box set and calling it a day
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Am I alone in thinking oddly enough a lot of LOTR hasn't aged well CG wise. The practicals were always very nice though.Yasae said:
PhoncipleBone
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Medalion said:
But the Extended Editions shown in theaters for those single showings were the new transfers, and looked incredible.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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PhoncipleBone said:
How did the effects hold up for you?
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