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Down to the Order's names are very GRRM, which is what Miyazaki said he created.Look and feel has GRRM all over the place to me. You can tell there’s a hand outside of From guiding the art and story.
Down to the Order's names are very GRRM, which is what Miyazaki said he created.Look and feel has GRRM all over the place to me. You can tell there’s a hand outside of From guiding the art and story.
This post pretty much spells out George RR Martin's role right here. I don't know why some of you guys are ignoring it. Simply put, the main bosses in this game were created by George. You can see them in the game's intro and promo trailers. George basically created the story and world of Elden Ring of many years ago, and then From Software took that world, and those characters, and shattered them via "the shattering" event long before YOU, the player/tarnished, are awakened. Basically, think Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, where you, as Link, wake up with no memories, and you go about the world learning about the "calamity" that happened a hundred years ago via diaries, npcs, and a few memories that you discover along the way which were presented as cutscenes. In Elden Ring, you'll be digging up George's story through bits and pieces of lore scattered in various places throughout the game. Unlike Zelda though, I don't think they're any past cinematics or character diaries sitting anywhere in the game. We'll be digging the lore up through items, and NPC's, and putting the puzzle together, and seeing what some of these characters and heroes were before they became monsters for us tarnished to take out. But I believe within that puzzle is where George's contribution to the game basically sits.I don't think people understand. I put this in the other thread, but as Miyazaki said, Martin wrote all of the history/mythology of the world of Elden Ring. The Golden Order in their prime, the ages, etc. Then FROM took that and weaved the current story and twisted the setting for the present time.
“When Martin wrote these characters, and when he provided that origin story, that mythos for the world of Elden Ring, these demigods were much closer to their original form, and maybe closer to human form back then, before the Shattering, before it all started," explains Miyazaki in the interview.
The Shattering is an event in Elden Ring's pre-game history. The game's location, The Lands Between, was once a kingdom blessed by the titular ring, and the Erdtree at its centre. However, a war known as The Shattering saw the ring broken, and the land's inhabitants transformed.
"So it was more up to us to interpret this and say, ‘how did they become such inhuman monsters," continued Miyazaki. "And how did the mad taint of the shattered shards of the Elden Ring and its power affect them?’ So that was our job to take these grand heroes and sort of misshape them and distort them into something they were not.”
“And I think if we get a chance to show Martin and if he gets a chance to see the game and see these characters, I think he might be a bit shocked. When he wrote them, he was really envisioning something a little bit more human, a little bit more traditional human drama and fantasy characters. So I hope he gets a kick out of that.”
Elden Ring Director Thinks George R.R. Martin Might Be 'Shocked' By What He's Done to His Characters - IGN
Elden Ring Hidetaka Miyazaki says that George R.R. Martin may be shocked with what he has done with a number of the characters that the Game of Thrones writer created for the game.www.ign.com
So is this the hate elden ring circle jerk? Seems like it.
Guess you guys can't play or don't like good games. It's an amazing game, the lore is great. This isn't about a read a book story. It's lore and world building.
I expect these games to have the same type of elements in a different setting, dark fantasy of some kind. It's the closet thing I will ever see to a good 3d castlevania style game and I love it for it. Thankfully Elden Ring had been amazing so far and much larger and deeper than dark souls before it. A masterpiece that haters will hate who can't cope.
Miyazaki mentioned he only wrote the mythos, then From Software narrowed down on the details. His input was light at best.I wonder how much of the lore he had a hand in, really.
[this game's lore ain't got shit on Bloodborne though]
This always felt like george getting a big check for having his name associated with the game.
Miyazaki: I suppose the start of this collaboration came from the fact that I myself am I huge fan of Mr. Martin’s work.
Me being such a known fan of Mr. Martin caused our executive business director Eiichi Nakajima to reach out to him with the expectation that we would get turned down.
However, we were then given the rare opportunity to talk one-on-one with Mr. Martin which was an incredibly fun and stimulating experience. It was then that I strongly felt that I wanted to work with Mr. Martin.
I am still unable to put into words how grateful I am to Mr. Martin for agreeing to our offer.
The actual collaboration itself begun with Mr. Martin ever so politely confirming what sorts of themes, ideas as well as many game-related aspects I had envisioned for the game.
This allowed us to have many free and creative conversations regarding the game, in which Mr. Martin later used as a base to write the overarching mythos for the game world itself.
This mythos proved to be full of interesting characters and drama along with a plethora of mystical and mysterious elements as well. It was a wonderful source of stimulus for me and the development staff.
I didn't see it anywhere on the boxart postals or stickers that came with launch version.So... What was the point in stapling Martin's name in the game?
You sound bitter.Ah yes. George RR Martin. The man who's supposed to be finishing ASOIAF, but keeps getting pulled into different projects.
Anyone remember in Jan 2016 where he apologised for not meeting a deadline to finish Winds by October 2015, a deadline that he thought was absolutely possible and then said the book was still "months away".
Then, in Feb 2016 he said that he would not be writing any teleplays, screenplays, short stories, introductions or forewords before delivering The Winds of Winter..........here we are 7 fucking years later and 11 years after the release of Dance and still no release in sight.
Truly, the King of procrastination.
He does, but why wouldn't he? It seems like he enjoys setting up the boundaries of a new world quite a bit.I wonder if he himself remembers.
You sound bitter.
At least he didn't start a kickstarter.
Plenty writers write a lot but don't release for one reason or the other (mostly down to their quality standards). He surely backed himself against the interweaved ball of wool he created himself, so I can totally relate, when that happens to me work becomes a grind, and I don't look forward to grind so it takes longer. It doesn't mean I'm not working through it, it just means it's mentally draining so it takes twice as long.
Doing things outside that monotonous reality, in those cases, might just be what keeps you away from having a burnout.
If he ever does it, it's probably for the fans.
^ I understand the disappointment.
I have no idea of the inner workings of it, I assume the book has been technically done back to finish for a while, the issue is that he's going back and forth changing things, and then when you change things so late in a huge book you have to go back and change a lot of things in a game of wack a mole. Worst yet, some writers throw entire books away and start over writing when they are not satisfied and don't think it's fixable with drafts.
It's development hell and there's probably some twists and turns he can't make his mind up about. Clearly, but that's just my take.
If he released it in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020... it would probably not live up to expectations, In fact, it might never live up to them.
I can. It seems like the Silmarillion basically. GRRM loves Tolkien. He probably had a short story written up with lore and characters and was able to sell it. Then had zero involvement after that. He could have written this years ago; even before GoT for all we know.I cant really see his work on this.
That someone is Miyazaki, and his favorite GRRM book is Fevre Dream, a vampire novel set in the Antebellum Mississippi River. In other words, Miyazaki's favorite book that he recommends to new From employees are a vampire novel that is set on a steamboat.Someone high in fromsoft is just a got fan an wanted to have a meeting with Martin. He wrote 2 lines, got money, from got hype and thats it
Elden Ring is 100% a MIyazaki name. He always puts the theme in the title.I reckon he came up with the name.....and that's about it,lol.
I agree, he's just coasting off of Game of Thrones success while shitting on the showGeorge is a joke. He never finished what he starts.
It's fine to shit on the show but to act like his books weren't going to go in that direction makes me angry. I hope he doesn't change the plot in the last two books due to some angry feminazis reaction to how things turned outHe did?
Oh, ok
This. Martin was super hot when they started making this and they probably wanted his name attached. I doubt he contributed much at all. Christ, he cant write a book every ten years, I don't imagine he gave them more than a brainstorming session.Marketing
And he did it in WordStar 4.0I think George R. R. Martin programmed the PC version.