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I actually liked the Darth Maul and Savage Opress episodes of the Clone Wars. It's too bad Lucasarts had to be so secretive and not tell them any plot details... it could've made for an interesting game, and may have even worked with some of their stealth concepts (although not that fear thing).

All of them require a bit of fantasy massaging to make sense, but they're all pretty good "underdog defeats big bad guy" battles where superior tactics/the force or whatever let the good guys outsmart the well equipped army.

In the Phantom Menace the good guys win because the people leading the bad guys were apparently too brain damaged to command all the droids to fan out and just open fire on a bunch of unarmored racian caricatures.

In the prequels they try way too hard to do the Braveheart-style epic clash of warriors in every movie, so you have guys with guns charging at each other to engage in hand to hand combat, rather than shoot at each other from behind cover like civilized people. It's less dramatic and not heroic to have them hiding behind stuff. It's pretty bad in the original trilogy too, but there was some semblance of sense in some of the battles. At least on Hoth they had trenches and fortifications... even if they climb out and charge the enemy after a while.
 
Alright, guys, we got there. We finally got there. Someone actually said George Lucas didn't create Star Wars. *walks around room, patting everyone on the back, shaking some hands*
 
In the prequels they try way too hard to do the Braveheart-style epic clash of warriors in every movie, so you have guys with guns charging at each other to engage in hand to hand combat, rather than shoot at each other from behind cover like civilized people. It's less dramatic and not heroic to have them hiding behind stuff. It's pretty bad in the original trilogy too, but there was some semblance of sense in some of the battles. At least on Hoth they had trenches and fortifications... even if they climb out and charge the enemy after a while.

Guns? How uncivilized.....
 
There's a character in the Clone Wars cartoon named "Savage Opress," which is nearly as bad.

Also, he's Darth Maul's brother, so that's great.

Tonight's Top 5 list: Top 5 rejected names for Darth Maul's brother. If you don't remember, Darth Maul was a bad guy in a Star Wars movie. He was cut in half, then fell into the trash, where he made legs. Fell in the trash and made legs. And he has a brother named Savage Opress. These are the things that the brother could have been named.

#5 Famine Rapist
#4 Cancer Headchop
#3 Despicable Virus
#2 That feeling when you're done taking a shower, THEN you have to poop. Darth That Feeling.

And the number one rejected name for Darth Maul's brother is:

Little Caesars Bathroom Baby
 
Lucas agreed that this situation made sense for Sith royalty, and offered up two Darth titles for the team to choose from. “He threw out ‘Darth Icky’ and ‘Darth Insanius.’

Hilarious. I feel genuinely bad for people who have any kind of serious emotional investment in this universe.
 
That didn't make him sound crazy, but rather a poor collaborator with terrible ideas who happens to be in a position of absolute power in the company. A really awful combination, especially if you are stuck working for the guy. We saw the effects of that on the prequels, but this made it all that much worse since he was dropping in to trash other people's projects.
 
So how much say will Lucas have in the new trilogy? I know he's a "consultant", but will we continue to see the unadulterated stream of piss-soaked bullshit for the sole purpose of moving toys because Lucas wants it, or is there some semblance of hope that we're not actually going to see a villain named Darth Icky?
 
The Indiana Jones news is mindblowing.

It's all over if you can get on the high ground.

What's funny is that the droids actually start off on the high ground, then drive down the hill to meet the frogbunnies.
 
I should be shocked at the Indy story but this is Lucas, nothing surprises me anymore. You could tell me he planned to end Episode 3 with a 10 minute Jar-Jar & C3PO sex scene and I'd be like..."yeah, sounds like something George would do".

Episode 2 and 3 were fine, 3 had some good moments. Some people are acting like lucas is literally a bad person or something.
Ugh. Have we really gotten to this point that we're now suggesting that Lucas may never have actually created the franchise in the first place? All because we saw a trilogy of movies that wern't particularly good (though hyped up by the fanbase as alleged disasters)?
I guess the overwhelming and rightful hate the prequels receive was bound to spawn a defense force. But no, those movies are disasters. And yeah, Lucas probably isn't a very good person. If he was a politician he'd be a dictator, and not one of those nice ones.
 
The more I read about Lucas, the more I wonder if being surrounded by yes men has basically turned him into Randy from the Sarcastaball episode of South Park.

So how much say will Lucas have in the new trilogy? I know he's a "consultant", but will we continue to see the unadulterated stream of piss-soaked bullshit for the sole purpose of moving toys because Lucas wants it, or is there some semblance of hope that we're not actually going to see a villain named Darth Icky?

My hope is that Lucas' position is similar to that of Gene Roddenberry on Star Trek after the original series: he may be very loud and can look important, but the actual film makers are free to ignore everything he says.
 
The more I read about Lucas, the more I wonder if being surrounded by yes men has basically turned him into Randy from the Sarcastaball episode of South Park.



My hope is that Lucas' position is similar to that of Gene Roddenberry on Star Trek after the original series: he may be very loud and can look important, but the actual film makers are free to ignore everything he says.

Given that JJ tossed out the original draft of episode VII which by all accounts was based on Lucas' drafts/notes. this does seem to be the case (at least I very much hope so).
 
Given that JJ tossed out the original draft of episode VII which by all accounts was based on Lucas' drafts/notes. this does seem to be the case (at least I very much hope so).

I wouldn't really consider JJ Abrams to be a benchmark of quality here. He'd probably be just as likely to throw out a fantastic script because it was "too smart".
 
I wouldn't really consider JJ Abrams to be a benchmark of quality here. He'd probably be just as likely to throw out a fantastic script because it was "too smart".

I've said it before and I'll say it again; there is no way for Abrams to f-up Episode VII. At its absolute worst it will be just as bad as the prequels, which people already pay money to see and fanboys will defend to the death. Even if it is just okay like how I felt Into Darkness was, it will still be a step up from the PT.
 
George Lucas is insane, I bet he even does this at home with his action figures.

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I guess the overwhelming and rightful hate the prequels receive was bound to spawn a defense force. But no, those movies are disasters. And yeah, Lucas probably isn't a very good person. If he was a politician he'd be a dictator, and not one of those nice ones.
Wow.
 
He's human.

In interviews, it seems to me he cared about tons of other shit than Star Wars. It was the fans that made the sci fi epic what it is, not the sole direction of Lucas.

Lets not forget Francis Ford Coppola picked this guy out of hundreds of candidates to intern for him and found American Zoetrope and Lucasfilm subsequently after. American Graffiti is what he loved. He cared more about hot rods and that idea of Americana, not a space opera. I'm still wholly convinced Gary Kurtz made the first trilogy what it was.

Kurtz helped, but probably the largest influence was Marcia Lucas, who edited all three of the original films and by all accounts was one of the most gifted editors in the history of the medium. She's the one who found the movie that we know inside the reputedly terrible first cut of Star Wars. Some say Coppola wouldn't lock a picture until she had seen it and given feedback. Stories are told of her making key changes to The Godfather Part II, Jaws, Close Encounters and E.T. that no one else saw before she pointed out what to do. During the making of the original Star Wars, Lucas wouldn't listen to dissenting opinions, so people with problems would tell Marcia, and if she agreed it was a real problem, she'd argue with George until he gave in and made the change or adjustment; she was the only one who could pull this off, by Gary Kurtz's account. After she was out of the picture, a notable decline can be seen in Lucas and Spielberg's pictures that lasts several years.

Is it true she has like completely disappeared? Like no one has heard from her in years?

She left him for the guy who installed the stained glass at Skywalker Ranch (which one presumes was removed and replaced afterward). As the story goes according to acquaintances, George was devastated and basically told their friends to choose one of them, because he wasn't going to deal with it. Most people picked the then-most-powerful man in film. Marcia dropped out of the business and raised her kids with her new husband.

She has given exactly one interview that I know of since then, which is printed in The Secret History of Star Wars, on the condition that the author not reveal where she is or any other information about her. One of the great tragedies of that era of cinema is the loss of Marcia Lucas. A full 40-50 years of Marcia Lucas being a working editor in film would have in all likelihood resulted in a different industry. Many who knew her when she was editing refer to her as a genius in the medium, and when you watch Star Wars, it's hard to disagree.

I highly recommend The Secret History of Star Wars, by the way, as it contains interviews with many of the people who made the original trilogy what it was, including Kurtz and Lawrence Kasdan. Kasdan tells a great story about hand-delivering his first draft of Raiders of the Lost Ark to Lucas, and Lucas takes it and comments that Leigh Brackett has passed away and he desperately needs someone to write the final draft of Empire Strikes Back. Kasdan is thrilled but does feel the need to point out that Lucas hasn't even read the Raiders script yet, so what if he hates it and thinks Kasdan is terrible? Lucas thinks for a moment, and says, "Go back to LA and start writing. I'll read this tonight and if I hate it I'll call you tomorrow and tell you to stop." Lucas never called, so Kasdan wrote the final draft of Empire.
 
For anyone saying Darth Icky and Darth Insaneous were Lucas dicking around, I'd like to remind you of the names of the other Sith Lords with whom he is directly involved:

(In)Vader
(In)Sidious
Maul
Tyranus

Plagueis

Honorable mention: General Greivous
 
To be completely honest...

Luke Skywalker and Han Solo are pretty dumb names.

Like, if they just appeared in a random Hollywood movie put out in 2014... people wouldn't be praising them.

They'd be like... another Cypher Raige.
 
To be completely honest...

Luke Skywalker and Han Solo are pretty dumb names.

Like, if they just appeared in a random Hollywood movie put out in 2014... people wouldn't be praising them.

They'd be like... another Cypher Raige.

Let's just be glad that it didn't end up known as the "Bogan Force."

But yeah, Lucas' terrible taste in names has been known for a long time, and it's only gotten worse.
 
I guess the overwhelming and rightful hate the prequels receive was bound to spawn a defense force. But no, those movies are disasters. And yeah, Lucas probably isn't a very good person. If he was a politician he'd be a dictator, and not one of those nice ones.
I never said I was defending them. I'm just saying that somehow, for some reason, a trilogy of movies has only caused fans, who grew up on the series since their childhood, to rethink their outlook on the series and its creator in the worst possible ways. But no. If it isn't all and all hatred of the Prequels, not even acknowledging even the slightest hint of positivity within them, it's considered a "defence". Ugh. This fanbase.
 
"Popcorn pictures have always ruled. Why do people go see them? Why is the public so stupid? That's not my fault." --George Lucas on Star Wars

The guy certainly knows how to make a buck off socially awkward 16 year old comic book nerds...
 
wan`t the origin of "Vader" the german word "Vater" or literally the dutch "Vader"...(aka Father)...?

always thought so. In the context of the overall story it always seemed
a least somewhat fitting for me.

Vader wasn't intended to be Luke's father until Lucas came up with the idea during the writing of Empire, so that is definitely not the origin of the name. (In)vader is probably likely as an origin, with the Vader/Father connection being a happy accident later, or possibly even the origin of the idea of Vader being Luke's father.
 
can someone explain this?

That's a shot of the producer on the prequels (Rick McCallum) watching a rough cut of Episode 1.

His face is basically saying 'we have destroyed Star Wars'.
 
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