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[Vlightray]

I find my stance the exception and probably a hard one to follow for most but if a game doesn't come in a physical disc I tend to skip it entirely have I missed on alot of games oh hell yeah but you gotta stick to something.

I generally been getting less and less and I also don't purchase DLC.

So Streaming is a pile of steaming shit to me.

 

[ruvikx]

what?
breh, get some self awareness.
The vocal minority are the people moaning about GaaS and how everything should be AAA single player only, meanwhile AAA singleplayer after AAA singleplayer comes out and fucking flops.

No.

Spiderman, God of War, Red Dead 2, Days Gone (first party titles), with third party games far too numerous to list which also feature popular single player modes. They're all successful, even those I didn't even like (such as Red Dead 2 for example). I get "why" the moneymen want GaaS & content like that as the future (create a sandbox with minimum effort/expense & get players addicted), but they only get a fraction of the several hundred million who buy consoles or play on PC.

Basing the "future" around sh*te with lootboxes, subscriptions & streaming is a sure-fire way to alienate a whole bunch of gamers. Me included. Ironically I don't even care about GaaS or whether people play that stuff (You want that? Be my guest, likewise I enjoyed 20+ hours of Destiny 5 years ago). But I'm not interested in a future where "streaming" replaces native content I own & control myself.

the latter offers better tech & gives me more control over my own stuff. That's all.

 

[mckmas8808]

I dunno throwing money at shit to see if it sticks isnt something I admire since its not a smart business decision or strategy at all.

It's not bad business if you have the money to experiment with. Google is drowning in billions of dollars of profit. And sometimes they'll kill their project, but use some of the tech for one of their core software or hardware products.

 

[renzolama]

It seems like the goal of streaming services is to bring in more casual audiences who haven't fully engaged with traditional PC/console gaming, not to convert existing audiences except for cross play / save benefits. I don't think this necessarily spells anything dire for game streaming.

 

[base]

No streaming. I have to pay even when I can't play a game.

 

[angelic]

I enjoy laughing at fads, and will continue to do so.

 

[kingwingin]

Only reason I'm interested in xcloud is the remote play ability. No way am I paying extra to stream my games

 

[Yoshi]

30% too few!

 

[Shodan09]

I've got no interest in any streaming service until it can match the console under the TV experience in terms of image quality and responsiveness.

 

[Fuz]

Fuck that 30%.

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

good riddance

 

[Vow of Silence]

As a believer in fractal localism I could never support the culturally monolithic hell of streaming services. Also lag.

 

[Kerotan]

Delighted. And of that 30% only a portion will subscribe!

 

[DonF]

UK+EU know what is up! that is an informed costumer.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Spain here and we think pretty much the same. If any, higher than 70%. We are totally against it.

By the way, movies and series are not the same product as videogames. Videogames have a collector / sentimental factor missing in Netflix or HBO services.


Also Netflix and HBO are a massive hit because they got EXCLUSIVE content of a quality unmatched by traditional TV channels. What Stadia is offering is a service without contents, with no added value to current consumers. It's vaporware.

If this ever succeeds it will be with the generation of kids that have not even started playing videogames yet.

 

[Dr.brain64]

" It's the future people! We swear! " gulp...

 

[Thabass]

I'm only interested in them as a means to play the games I own on shitty hardware and that's it. Otherwise I like to play locally.

 

[Mista]

Hey, I thought this was “GAF hivemind”

 

[Mihos]

what?
breh, get some self awareness.
The vocal minority are the people moaning about GaaS and how everything should be AAA single player only, meanwhile AAA singleplayer after AAA singleplayer comes out and fucking flops.

What games were those?

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Stadia 4K streaming will use up 1TB of data in 65 hours

I have a data cap with Xfinity. Even if I were interested (which I'm not), game streaming wouldn't be an option for me.

 

[Dynasty8]

You guys seem so angry over nothing. I'll give it a fair try before making a judgement. This won't be a replacement for me, just an alternative way to play some games. If it doesn't perform well, I'll just drop it and cancel my $10 subscription and move on.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

99% of gamers asked didn't want Kinect, but we saw how that turned out. Forced down our throats and mandatory for a console to even turn on.

You think streaming will go away because the audience don't want it? No motherfuckers, you gunna choke on it and like it.

 

[MightySquirrel]

I'm very confident in saying that most of those 30% have no idea how horrible 60fps streaming compares to even 30 fps local gaming on console. The latency even in base scenario is horrendous. Not to mention image quality.

 

[The Pleasure]

Good. Kill this shit now while we have the chance and make sure it never reappears again. Not owning the games? No thanks Gooble. I got the perfect way to kill this for regular people who don't see the difference. Tell them that streaming games is like mosiacing the porn. That Japanese muff that looks like the faces of people on Cops? That's streaming. Normal people hate censored pussy. And that is how you get people to say fuck streaming games.

 

[01011001]

there are so many downsides to streaming games...

#1: Input lag, and this one won't go away without literally a complete overhaul of the entire internet infrastructure as we know it

#2: artifacts, this will be less and less an issue as internet speeds increase, but as of now... the image quality is ass

#3: you don't own your games, the moment the service is gone, your games go with it. this would especially hurt if a game was exclusive to said service.

#4: censorship, the company streaming the games can censor you games, and there is no way to maybe get an uncensored import version of said game. this is still a relevant topic for gamers in germany, australia and japan.

#5: total control of pricing, there would be no real way to get games cheaper without the streaming service themselves offering a price cut.


these issues aren't as bad in a world where streaming is a side product for many companies and as long as native game playback is still way more relevant. but imagine a future of all streaming... yeah, then these issues will mean a dystopian gaming market

 

[LordRaptor]

What games were those?

Hitman, Dishonored, Rage, Doom, Deus Ex, Prey, Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed, Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, Darksiders and Resident Evil are all big name franchises that have all had big budget flop releases this gen.
I picked those titles so the goalposts can't be moved about it being marketing, or it being tough to launch a new IP, such as Agents of Mayhem, Quantum Break, Ryse, The Order, Starlink.

There's also the small matter of studio closures, and mergers & acquisitions.
Studios that don't exist any more aren't making games at all, let alone single player hit-or-miss, boom-or-bust titles.

 

[FranXico]

Who voted for Stadia? And why? Just wondering.

 

[FUBARx89]

I'm not surprised my fellow brits aren't overly keen on it.

We know our internet can be pretty shit and we have god awful broadband companies that can't organise a piss up in a brewery unless we live in a fibre area.

 

[spawn]

My internet is fast, but occasionally it goes down from time to time almost daily around noon. There is no way that I would buy into this crap because imagine you're playing an rpg and you haven't saved for 30 minutes. Your internet goes down and then you lose the last 30 minutes that you were just on. Not to mention that I have a 4k tv with a ps4 pro. Why would I buy a 3rd party game on a console that I know is going to perform worse on.

 

[spawn]

You could’ve said exactly the same thing about video streaming.

I don't think you can compare the two. This is not going to work well for fighting games, sport games, first-person shooters because you need fast reflexes and your controller inputs need to be quick. With video streaming you're just laying on the couch eating Cheetos.

Also, we have seen streaming consoles come to the market like the Ouya and they all failed.

 

[sgurschick]

Survey is of gamers who want streaming...wonder how many folks that aren't "gamers" will try out streaming for convenience when they don't have the burden of the upfront cost of a console.

 

[Vlightray]

Hitman, Dishonored, Rage, Doom, Deus Ex, Prey, Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed, Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, Darksiders and Resident Evil are all big name franchises that have all had big budget flop releases this gen.
I picked those titles so the goalposts can't be moved about it being marketing, or it being tough to launch a new IP, such as Agents of Mayhem, Quantum Break, Ryse, The Order, Starlink.

There's also the small matter of studio closures, and mergers & acquisitions.
Studios that don't exist any more aren't making games at all, let alone single player hit-or-miss, boom-or-bust titles.

Shit singleplayers will always flop same as shit Gaas will.
As for vocal minority on Gaas games sucking in someway or another smh.

 

[Tupinambis_WOT]

Because Google tries lots of things. And within 3 years, if they can't find super high success, they'll bail out of it like they have with many other things. It's one of the things that I admire about Google. They don't mind burning money with trying some new things.

Oh, see that's why I don't like Google.... or specifically why I don't trust them on this game streaming concept. They'll just bail on things. I have almost no faith that they'll honor "purchases" people have made and maintain people's game libraries for more than a few years.

 

[Stuart360]

I'm actually surprised its as high as 30% interested, all the polls and stuff i have seen on game sites etc have all been 90+% not interested.

 

[EightBit Man]

But they will keep on pushing it, pushing it, pushing it. They do this in small but clever steps. There is hardly any reason to purchase physical games these days because they are already outdated builds sitting on store shelves. Most people are now already acclimatized to day-one patches, broken games, DLCs, stuff like that; i.e. not having the polished, complete product like games were once purchased.

 

[Romulus]

That means 30% are willing to give it a shot, and that's a massive number considering how many gamers there are. I thought it would be closer to 90% not interested.

 

[LordRaptor]

Shit singleplayers will always flop same as shit Gaas will.
As for vocal minority on Gaas games sucking in someway or another smh.

really breh?
all of those under performing games were 'shit'?
Is that where we're at? Anything getting a high 80s metacritic - which most people would say is a pretty good game, by the closest thing to objective measurement we have - is 'shit' and deserves to flop because its not a fucking 10/10?

Absolutely delusional.

If the markets such that a AAA single player game that can't get a minimum 90% metacritic is a flop, how the fuck do you think people are going to continue prioritising those?

 

[Vlightray]

really breh?
all of those under performing games were 'shit'?
Is that where we're at? Anything getting a high 80s metacritic - which most people would say is a pretty good game, by the closest thing to objective measurement we have - is 'shit' and deserves to flop because its not a fucking 10/10?

Absolutely delusional.

If the markets such that a AAA single player game that can't get a minimum 90% metacritic is a flop, how the fuck do you think people are going to continue prioritising those?

I wouldn't call any of those mainline franchises you quoted flops.
But these Agents of Mayhem, Quantum Break, Ryse, The Order, Starlink are pretty much shit. Even tho I own Quantam,Ryse, and The Order.

Hitman, Dishonored, Rage, Doom, Deus Ex, Prey, Final Fantasy, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed, Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, Darksiders and Resident Evil
As For these I disagree about the flops overall but yeah some did have 1 slow seller etc.

 

[mckmas8808]

But they will keep on pushing it, pushing it, pushing it. They do this in small but clever steps. There is hardly any reason to purchase physical games these days because they are already outdated builds sitting on store shelves. Most people are now already acclimatized to day-one patches, broken games, DLCs, stuff like that; i.e. not having the polished, complete product like games were once purchased.

If you value the used games market then there's 10 reasons to buy physical media. Or if you rent games sometimes.

 

[ReBurn]

I'm not currently interested in streaming games. But somehow I get the feeling that at some point it's not going to matter whether I am interested in them or not. It may come down to a matter of that's the distribution model we get and we can take it or leave it. Streaming may not he aimed at the gamers at neogaf.com, but there are a lot of people who will pay for it.

It's been proven that people will forsake ownership of physical media for services like Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora, Netflix, etc.

There's safe money that a lot of people will accept subscriptions to streaming gaming like they have music and movies if the performance is there. Then sales of physical ownership of games will start to decline just like ownership of every other physical media platform. We can try to hold out, but the day's going to come when the holdouts either get on board or get left behind.

 

[Bonfires Down]

I'm interested in anything that lets me play console exclusives on the PC. PS Now latency is perfectly fine for me.

 

[Thanati]

I’m not interested.

BUT, 30% of gamers is not exactly a small market. And I bet if you asked Netflix subscribers in 2000 if they were interested in streaming video, most of them would’ve said no.

This is a really good point. I was originally in this boat as I said I’d always want my physical copy and wouldn’t trust my net connection.

Fast forward to now. I haven’t purchased a dvd/blu Ray for around a decade and haven’t even loaded one up at all. I stream all my content.

 

[joe_zazen]

And I bet if you asked Netflix subscribers in 2000 if they were interested in streaming video, most of them would’ve said no.

not true at all. In fact OTA ‘streaming’ has been the main way if consuming video since the invention of tv. And as soon as broadband became widely available, the thirst for online video exploded. It was the same for music.