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GM going back to their roots: New 2010 Chevy Camaro

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^ Gettin this in June, 2010 black GT. I personally love the look of the car, and I really want to buy American if I can.
 
mckmas8808 said:
It's called luxary. Which doesn't belong in this thread anyway. :p
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i dunno why but i dont like wood in car interiors ...at all its just bleah to me, pet peeve i guess. Car looks nice and im sure it will be a good price/performance monster. The real story will be the after market versions with tweaks, someones gotta do something with that grill sometime i like sometimes i dont.....I miss the firebird more anyway.
 
The Lamonster said:
So can you go out and buy this car now? Wikipedia says they're filling pre-orders till October. Anyone know if this is true?
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Are these available now? What is the status?
 
The Lamonster said:
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Are these available now? What is the status?
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There were 13,500 preorders. Production started March 16th. There was a 10 day inspection on the first batch of cars. The first day's cars were mostly SS's which started arriving to dealers this Monday. (Most of these are going to be test drive/show room cars) The first few preorders are going to be winding up in people's hands by the end of this week or early next week. My local dealer told me I won't be able to test drive a v6 until the end of this month (at which point I can get my deal in writing and then play the waiting game with production). All in all, if you haven't preordered, be happy if you can get one by early June-July.
 
mernst23 said:
There were 13,500 preorders. Production started March 16th. There was a 10 day inspection on the first batch of cars. The first day's cars were mostly SS's which started arriving to dealers this Monday. (Most of these are going to be test drive/show room cars) The first few preorders are going to be winding up in people's hands by the end of this week or early next week. My local dealer told me I won't be able to test drive a v6 until the end of this month (at which point I can get my deal in writing and then play the waiting game with production). All in all, if you haven't preordered, be happy if you can get one by early June-July.
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Cool, thanks. Unfortunately I don't think I can wait. I've got the 'new car bug.' Looking at the Dodge Charger but trying to decide if AWD is worth another $3-4k...


So...does this car even have a backseat??
 
Elfforkusu said:
I think it looks pretty good. But... 17 mpg city? :|
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You're supposed to ignore that and just talk about the 25-29 mpg highway, although you don't actually say highway. Just say 29 mpg and America loves you.
 
MorisUkunRasik said:
white guy love for the camaro never ceases to amaze me. Also White guy love for corvettes is weird too.
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You kidding me?

This is the greatest car to ever be born on American soil.

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Lord Vader, your rocket is ready:
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I don't understand some of the people on this board. $22,000 for 304hp v6 that gets decent gas milage and a 5.9 0 to 60. $31,000 for a 422hp car that blasts from 0 to 60 in 4.6 seconds. All you haters are right, what the hell was GM thinking? :lol Holy hell this car is slow.
 
minx88 said:
I don't understand some of the people on this board. $22,000 for 304hp v6 that gets decent gas milage and a 5.9 0 to 60. $31,000 for a 422hp car that blasts from 0 to 60 in 4.6 seconds. All you haters are right, what the hell was GM thinking? :lol Holy hell this car is slow.
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Listen, GM is dying. it's dying because it keeps making cars that respond to this kind of illogical demand. The vast majority of people buy cars they need and expect them to be reliable and dependable and pleasant to drive.

GM makes very few cars like that. Hobbyist collector's follies are not going to save GM. They are going to speed its demise.

This car reeks of fucking Hubris. It is the technological equivalent of Bankers paying themselves bonuses as their companies collapse.

It's garbage. It's more of what they've been doing. A copycat of a copycat. A car that can't be sold anywhere except here, to kids who don't know any better and fat old men who don't care.

It is a disaster conceptually, and in execution and will be emblematic of the company's final descent into irrelevance. Liking it, praising it, will simply speed its demise.
 
no one tells Ford to stop making the Mustang and I think the Camaro is a much better effort than the Challenger. It seems like a solid enough car, I don't think you can expect any one car to be GM's savior.
 
golem said:
no one tells Ford to stop making the Mustang and I think the Camaro is a much better effort than the Challenger. It seems like a solid enough car, I don't think you can expect any one car to be GM's savior.
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Mustang is a piece of shit until you get to GT. Even then it's a dumb proposition for a sports car. 20k for the no frills fucking rental mess. Muscle Cars get way too much leeway in the "shitty handling poor performance to weight/displacement" category because they're supposed to handle like shit.

That's a pretty fucking low bar.

And let's not even talk about fit and finish, or interior. It took them ten years to get to an interior that wasn't offensive. And Ford is better than GM in almost every metric.

GM has two worthwhile cars. the Corvette, which will live on anyway as a small marque, regardless of ownership - and one or two Cadillac models. Which are basically reskinned Holden platforms.

Ugh.


Ugh.
 
So I totally remembered this thread, I was wondering if anyone else decided to get one?

I put down my 1k downpay on July 27th and today my car's order was accepted by GM for production (Code 3000). Still gotta wait at least another 5-6 weeks until it's in my garage. I probably would already have this bad boy in my driveway if it wasn't for a) my dad losing his job in april and b) my company deciding to lay off 10% of IT. Luckily everything worked out and my job is secure and my dad has a job so I don't feel like an ass for buying a new car.
 
YuriLowell said:
I saw a couple of these the other day around town.
Must say its kinda gaudy looking in person.

The back end looks atrocious.
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Must be in the minority then because anyone I've talked to about the car loves the look.
 
Saw a Camaro rolling down 6th ave NYC a month ago, and this guy was obviously showing off. I was impressed. That thing purrs with NO effort. You could hear that shits growls resonate off of every surface from about 10 blocks away. Old ladies were getting scared and shit. I loved it. That thing is a beast.
 
The Camaro certainly wins when it comes to hp for your $, but I dont really care for the styling. If Chrysler shows signs that they are righting the ship over the next couple months I may order a 2010 Challenger. I dont care about quarter mile times or any of that crap I just think its the best looking of the current generation of muscle cars.
 
Lakedaimon said:
The Camaro certainly wins when it comes to hp for your $, but I dont really care for the styling. If Chrysler shows signs that they are righting the ship over the next couple months I may order a 2010 Challenger. I dont care about quarter mile times or any of that crap I just think its the best looking of the current generation of muscle cars.
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I agree. It may be the slowest but damn does it look hot!
 
I'm not a car-guy, but I'd say that Camaro is pretty fugly. Up there on the ugly meter next to the Escalade.

The MPG is laughable as well.
 
VPhys said:
I like this car, might pick one up.
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What a weird bump, but since you did, I hope you're a fat old white guy in a leather jacket, because every single one of these I've seen on the road, is driven by Kenny Rogers.
 
El_TigroX said:
Why does everyone think that 25 mpg is somehow incredible? When that's touted as an amazing feature it's ridiculous. Cars around the world, from Europe to Japan, LAUGH at that mpg rating. It's depressing...
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There aren't may 300+ horsepower cars getting that kind of MPG.
 
Anasui Kishibe said:
five pages over this classless piece of ass car?

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Some people like encouraging US Auto to burn its own pubic hair.

Onix said:
There aren't may 300+ horsepower cars getting that kind of MPG.
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But there are plenty of better cars getting better mpg. Faster, better ride, better handling, etc., etc. This is like the special olympics.
 
I truly don't understand the hate for the Camaro.

To me, it's a fucking badass car. But then, I'm the son of a former mechanic, muscle-car lover who owns a '72 Chevelle.

I think the Camaro is the best looking out of it, the Mustang, and the Challenger these days, and just don't understand the hate for it.
 
Boogie said:
I think the Camaro is the best looking out of it, the Mustang, and the Challenger these days, and just don't understand the hate for it.
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Aesthetics are subjective and the best reason to like the Camaro. Every other reason needs a LOT of justification. On a dollar for dollar basis it's a terrible idea.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
But there are plenty of better cars getting better mpg.
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You mean a Prius gets better fuel economy than a Camaro? I'm fucking shocked.

OuterWorldVoice said:
Aesthetics are subjective and the best reason to like the Camaro. Every other reason needs a LOT of justification. On a dollar for dollar basis it's a terrible idea.
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But in a comparison with what?
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Some people like encouraging US Auto to burn its own pubic hair.




But there are plenty of better cars getting better mpg. Faster, better ride, better handling, etc., etc. This is like the special olympics.
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Sure, but no car is best at anything. Cars with better gas mileage don't have as good of performance. Cars that have a better ride or better handling are more expensive. What do you want them to do?
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
But there are plenty of better cars getting better mpg. Faster, better ride, better handling, etc., etc. This is like the special olympics.
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That really has nothing to do with my point.
 
ascii42 said:
Sure, but no car is best at anything. Cars with better gas mileage don't have as good of performance. Cars that have a better ride or better handling are more expensive. What do you want them to do?
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They just did what they always do. Sacrifice sophistication for size to appeal to the fat old men who always buy this shit. 6.2 liter engine? It's like they didn't even read a newspaper for the last ten years. A 911 Turbo, which I admit is a stupid comparison, uses a three-and-a-half liter engine and obviously destroys the Camaro on all performance points. Of course, it costs about eight times more, but Porsche has been eking performance out of smaller engines for decades.

Now, on the other end of the Chevy spectrum - the current Corvette is a Ferrari-slapping fucking masterpiece and should be the blueprint for ALL American cars. Technology and amazing engineering, with real focus.

Onix said:
That really has nothing to do with my point.
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It's an interesting point, but it's meaningless, thanks to the crappy average and poor city mileage.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
It's an interesting point, but it's meaningless, thanks to the crappy average and poor city mileage.
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And that still really has nothing to do with my point :lol (unless I misunderstood the intent of the OP).
 
Onix said:
And that still really has nothing to do with my point :lol
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Your point was that it gets barely reasonable highway mileage, while pumping 300 horses. I addressed that by noting it only does that at highway speeds and its actual mileage - the combined average, is not good at all.

Again, I am not bagging on US Auto for the hell of it, I want, in fact NEED US auto to start competing with Japan on logical terms, not continually harping back to a golden age that wasn't all that golden.

Corvette is doing it right.
Saturn is making an ass of marketing, but has the cars.
Chrysler has no clue.
Ford is winning.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Now, on the other end of the Chevy spectrum - the current Corvette is a Ferrari-slapping fucking masterpiece and should be the blueprint for ALL American cars. Technology and amazing engineering, with real focus.
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Gawdamn right it is.

Of course, I'll never be able to afford one.

Here's a question for you: what would you recommend for someone looking for a fun/sporty/badass car for under, say, $36k?
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Your point was that it gets barely reasonable highway mileage, while pumping 300 horses. I addressed that by noting it only does that at highway speeds and its actual mileage - the combined average, is not good at all.
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Compared to what, exactly? What cars in the Camaro's class get significantly better gas mileage?
 
Boogie said:
Gawdamn right it is.

Of course, I'll never be able to afford one.

Here's a question for you: what would you recommend for someone looking for a fun/sporty/badass car for under, say, $36k?
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Under 36k? Easy.

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Boogie said:
Gawdamn right it is.

Of course, I'll never be able to afford one.

Here's a question for you: what would you recommend for someone looking for a fun/sporty/badass car for under, say, $36k?
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Subaru Impreza WRX STI
 
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