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Going back to the PS3 controller after playing a lot on PS4
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CrimsonSquall
Member
Well the battery lasted long at least... And the D-Pad was superb.
Gray Matter
Member
It is difficult going back, but playing all the TLoU MP I've been playing lately I got used it it again.
Zomba13
Member
Yeah it's weird. Like, the 360 pad was always better than the DS3 but it was a fine controller (as in it wasn't horrible and did its job). But the DS4 is just so much better that going back just feels wrong, like it just feels cheaper and nothing feels as good. I thinnk the DS4 is definitely the most improve controller (well, maybe N64 -> GC is) and beats the hell out of the the Xbone pad's billion or whatever ergonomic improvements that it boasted.
The grips are way too short and it's not comfortable to hold AT ALL. 360 pad was always better but it seems more noticeable going from sony to sony lol
Do you have an extra long micro-USB cable? I feel I'm gonna need one lol
PintSizedSlasher
Member
It feels like holding a peanut if you go back to it...
I have big hands and definitely prefer the PS3 controller. But I don't have two fingers on the shoulders at all times, which I have to do on the PS4 to prevent cramps after an hour or so. I like the lighter form, and the sticks feel great to me. Although, if you're one to break controllers easily, it's understandable. My room mates fall into that category and prefer the PS4 controller
Wreck-It Ralph
Member
Yeah, the Dualshock 3 wasn't a very good controller. I could've told you that back in 2006. I'm glad the PS controller finally got a huge makeover with the DS4. Shame about the battery life, though.
seventynine
Member
Works wirelessly now, I believe.
Recently got my PS4 and I'm loving the controller. I've still got a few minor gripes like the triggers being slightly spongy and the handles being a tiny bit smaller than I'd like them, but overall it's superb. Easily matches or exceeds the 360 controller for modern multiplats, and it's actually usable for classic/2D stuff because of the d-pad.
I really don't get this general sentiment.
The concave analogue sticks and triggers are nice, but otherwise it's no sea change.
And I find the L3/R3 clicks on the DS4 are way too sensitive, which has been a colossal pain in FPSes. Can't tell you how many times I've died because I put on a feather touch of pressure while tracking a target and melee'd as I was in a firefight. It's infuriating, and it's not a problem I've had with any other controller.
The concave analogue sticks and triggers are nice, but otherwise it's no sea change.
And I find the L3/R3 clicks on the DS4 are way too sensitive, which has been a colossal pain in FPSes. Can't tell you how many times I've died because I put on a feather touch of pressure while tracking a target and melee'd as I was in a firefight. It's infuriating, and it's not a problem I've had with any other controller.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
Yea, I don't understand how I did competitive FPS with the slippery sticks and how loose the sticks were compared to the DS4.
OMG wat!
Being mainly a Xbox 360 Player and also buying a PS3 2-3 years ago I could never understand how people could use this nightmare of a controller and even calling it "good" or "decent"
Pretty much the same with me. Takes me maybe a minute or more to adjust to any other controller and then I'm set again.
Awesome, it works
Being mainly a Xbox 360 Player and also buying a PS3 2-3 years ago I could never understand how people could use this nightmare of a controller and even calling it "good" or "decent"
I mainly played RPGs on PS3 so it wasn't a big issue. Action and sports games are horrific but what can you do if you want to play an exclusive? lol
Frank_Tha_Noob
Banned
At least the thumbsticks don't break.
Shadow_FFVI
Member
Yes. You can use a DS4 with a PS3 now. I feel right at home with any PlayStation controller though.
The inevitable day when Sony decides to drastically change the design of the controller will be a sad one indeed.
The inevitable day when Sony decides to drastically change the design of the controller will be a sad one indeed.
the_batman
Banned
they should've gone with the boomerang controller for the ps3. that one looks even more comfortable than the DS4.
Zeuanimals
Member
So long as you're holding it with the controller resting on your fingers and your palms raised from the grips, it's comfortable to use.
You can tell it was designed for D-Pad and face button use only when holding it like you would hold the 360/XB1/PS4 controllers (with your palms gripping around the grips), since with the DS3, instead of your thumbs easily being able to switch between stick and buttons, it'll be stuck on the D-Pad/buttons. They just added thumbsticks to a controller not designed with thumbsticks in mind and kept it for 2.5 generations.
they should've gone with the boomerang controller for the ps3. that one looks even more comfortable than the DS4.
That first picture always tripped me out. Why is the D-Pad so crooked? I mean, that's fine if you want it to be crooked if it's "more comfortable" (if it is) but atleast keep it consistent and make the face buttons crooked too.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
I go between the two and have no problems. I actually give the edge to the DS3 because of the battery
But you can play TLoU with the Dualshock 4...
Zeuanimals
Member
PS button and gyroscope don't work, though, and It acts as a regular bluetooth controller. So that kind of sucks.
Gray Matter
Member
I know, but since I can't re-map the buttons it's very awkward using the DS4. That why when TLoU: remastered comes out I'll re-map the buttons just like the PS3 version. And also, there's a lot of dead zones while using the DS4 in TLoU
I never got the hate for the DualShock 3. To hate the DS3 means you also hated the DS1 and DS2, and I had never heard that. I grew up and used that design almost exclusively for 15 years, it's pretty much a part of me. Don't get me wrong, the DS4 is awesome but this hate existed before it apparently.
I also cannot fathom how I constantly have other gamers tell me the 360 controller was the best gaming controller ever, I dislike it.
I also cannot fathom how I constantly have other gamers tell me the 360 controller was the best gaming controller ever, I dislike it.
CertifiedFP
Member
Probably has to do with people growing and stuff.
It's not particularly off to assume that adults who played the PS3 last gen played the previous two Playstations in their childhood and teens when they had much smaller hands that could accommodate the Dualshock design better than their hands when they grew up. It's not that people suddenly decided to hate the Dualshock all of a sudden with the PS3 (Although those triggers were awful), so much that the DS3 didn't evolve while the generation that grew up with the design did.
the_batman
Banned
it's too small. i was a smaller person with smaller hands when the ps1 and ps2 came out.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Are the DS4's joysticks made of better material yet? I've been waiting for the all-clear to get one.
Zeuanimals
Member
I think it's because standards changed. The DS1/2 were the best at the time and at one point, the NES controller was the best controller. I personally don't ever want to hold that thing again (NES controller), or maybe I do just for nostalgia's sake but it was uncomfortable as hell. Nobody really complained because that was the best at the time.
Like it or not, the 360 controller did a lot of things right that the DS3 didn't (and a whole lot wrong). The DS1/2/3 were outdated controllers, literally. The PS1's original controllers weren't made with thumbsticks in mind, it was made for D-Pad and face button use only. Then they added thumbsticks without updating the ergonomics. That's why when you hold it with your palms gripping around the grips, your thumbs will be touching the buttons and the D-Pad and trying to reach for the thumbstick with your palms still gripping the grips will be very uncomfortable and it will make actual use of the sticks impossible.
It's a perfectly fine controller but it could definitely have been better. Simply updating the ergonomics to accommodate stick usage would've done a lot. I mean, it's not impossible to use the sticks, but letting the controller rest in your finger tips and keeping your palms raised to allow your thumbs to use all of the controls is not exactly ideal.
Dragonborn
Member
I never minded the DS3. The 360 pad was great but also had its disadvantages. Still, I've zero issue going back to the PS3
I'm not 100% sure but from the way you describe I'm thinking that maybe you weren't holding it right or maybe trying to hold it like a 360 pad. It's certainly not as ergonomic but I was never uncomfortable
I'm not 100% sure but from the way you describe I'm thinking that maybe you weren't holding it right or maybe trying to hold it like a 360 pad. It's certainly not as ergonomic but I was never uncomfortable
The DS3 is truly atrocious. The handles are too short, the sticks too lose and too close together. It weighs nothing and feels really cheap. The R2 and L2 "triggers" is basically useless, and makes using any action that gets mapped to them a chore.
I hate it. And I can't understand how so many people could endure playing multi-platform games with it during the last generation, when you had other options.
As far as I'm concerned if you played any multi-platform game on the Playstation 3, be it Dark Souls or Dishonoured, you played the worst version possible solely because of that Controller.
I hate it. And I can't understand how so many people could endure playing multi-platform games with it during the last generation, when you had other options.
As far as I'm concerned if you played any multi-platform game on the Playstation 3, be it Dark Souls or Dishonoured, you played the worst version possible solely because of that Controller.
Wow! That was nice to get of my chest. I bought a Playstation 3 for The Last of Us and then of course they had to go and announce a rerelease on the Playstation 4 making my purchase completely unnecessary!
(I also have purchased and played through Uncharted 2, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 2 and Metal Gear Rising on the Playstation 3)
HellofaMouse
Member
after two decades of using that same controller, ds3 still feels better to me than ds4. not that ds4 is uncomfortable tho
Imru al-Qays
Banned
Prince of Persia: Forgotten Sands on Dualshock 3 is giving my hands a serious workout.
Stockholm Syndrome.
Not everyone has your hands. I really like those big triggers, it is the only controller that I can rest my middle finger on them without problems. Other triggers are too thin for me. It feels like they are designed for you to press R1/R2 using one finger only.
I haven't used the DS4 too much though, but between X360, XO and PS3 controllers, I'll choose DS3 everytime.
Cannot fathom how some people like the things that I don't like!
LollipoPReapeR
Member
The one you get with the PS4 I find is pretty damn long. And unfortunately the wireless thing isn't working for me
Zeuanimals
Member
Well, it is comfortable for me since I held it with it laying in my fingers with my palms not touching the grips but hovering over them to allow my thumbs to easily move from D-Pad/face buttons to thumb sticks.
My description was of someone moving from 360 to PS3 and how they'd be used to gripping the controller with their palms rather than just letting it rest in their fingers. It's true that they'd be holding the controller wrong but "holding" something by letting it rest in your fingers is pretty strange in the first place. Well, probably not. Smartphones are held the same way, with it laying in your fingers with palms open and not touching the phone to allow your thumbs to reach every part of the screen easily.
Might I ask, how did you hold the DS3? I'm not gonna defend the thing because it was poorly designed but there's no reason why it should be hurting your thumbs unless you're holding it the way I described how people who complain about the controller tend to hold it. Hold it like how you would hold a smartphone as described above, this allows your thumbs free range of motion from the sticks to the buttons. I'll admit, there wouldn't be this problem if they designed the controller better but there are ways of making it so your thumbs don't hurt, big hands or not, blisters from button mashing in fighting games notwithstanding.