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Going from COD to Battlefield is a pretty shocking change
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PanicFreak
Member
Call of Duty is terrible. It always has been. The fact that kill streaks basically automate the process for winning has always been a sticking point with me.
LapinAgile
Member
I think the whole issue with getting people to work as a team is overplayed. Yes it's true people aren't communicating in voice chat but if you watch the flow of the map and where your team is going you can always put yourself in a position to make a large contribution to the match. If you die and spam the button to respawn you will wind up in the base with no vehicles, or in a clusterfuck meatgrinder with no chance of survival or with the one idiot in your squad trying to snipe from some random hill. BF has strategy involved in every facet of the game, even spawning. People who ignore that tend to blame their team for their bad experience. Not saying this is you, but I find that if you give a little tlc to the map then matches become a lot less frustrating in my experience.
statham
Member
thanks, will do.
user8503492
Banned
Play as an Engineer, equip the first Carbine for now AK-5c (I think thats it) and wreck shop 
Basically the engineer is the go to easy class that can do it all, besides healing/supplying ammo you'll be able to..
Have a weapon that rivals Assualt rifles (carbines are every class and can be godly)
Drop AT-Mines or Slams in high vehicle areas (they don't disappear after you die, but will disappear if you respawn and place more) You'll get pop ups 5 minutes after you died saying "Muti-Kill, Vehicle damage etc.." from mines you placed you forgot about lol
AT-Rockets or AA...your choice...
Repair kit, if that's your thing..
Most maps and games are dependant on "Which team has the most, and semi-competent, Engineers"...
Have fun flying! The damn best object to pilot is the Little Bird Scout chopper...and that's cause you can load Engineers into who repair as you fly. Hop in any other Air and prepare for AA out the ass to smack into you..best yet "Passive AA" which are AA rockets which don't alert the pilot they have been fired!
But, like I said...grab an Engy and a Carbine and grab some points and lvls. Unless you REALLY wanna do another type of class you will have almost zero disadvantage vs. any class or vehicle.
I've been playing BF since the old days, took a look at my old stats even today...1300 hours played...850 just on Karkand lol 6000 matches on that stupid map!
I loved my PKM...was ranked number 6 in the world for support and number 4 for LMG kills for about 2 years. Infantry only patch made it impossible to keep up once Infantry only Karkand dropped..I did that shit with APC's and Tanks rolling down the street!..once Infantry only hit Karkand became Nade+support bag exploit city..
The old days...Engineers only had shotguns, Anti-Tank was a class who only had PDW's, class had "Armor and Non-Armor" and could only take a few shots till they died (squishy snipers!)
Medic = God mode
LMG's had ZERO accuracy unless you were prone
AA was ONLY mounted at certain points of the map and a pilot had to manuver between them or destroy them (handling air was your own airs problem really...accept the fucking J-10)
Pre-nerf Blackhawks of death! Nade Hopping! Dolphin Dive macros!
Hell even the week I felt like a god when the PKM (Hence my name) was patched accidentally to have sniper like aim!
Basically the engineer is the go to easy class that can do it all, besides healing/supplying ammo you'll be able to..
Have a weapon that rivals Assualt rifles (carbines are every class and can be godly)
Drop AT-Mines or Slams in high vehicle areas (they don't disappear after you die, but will disappear if you respawn and place more) You'll get pop ups 5 minutes after you died saying "Muti-Kill, Vehicle damage etc.." from mines you placed you forgot about lol
AT-Rockets or AA...your choice...
Repair kit, if that's your thing..
Most maps and games are dependant on "Which team has the most, and semi-competent, Engineers"...
Have fun flying! The damn best object to pilot is the Little Bird Scout chopper...and that's cause you can load Engineers into who repair as you fly. Hop in any other Air and prepare for AA out the ass to smack into you..best yet "Passive AA" which are AA rockets which don't alert the pilot they have been fired!
But, like I said...grab an Engy and a Carbine and grab some points and lvls. Unless you REALLY wanna do another type of class you will have almost zero disadvantage vs. any class or vehicle.
I've been playing BF since the old days, took a look at my old stats even today...1300 hours played...850 just on Karkand lol 6000 matches on that stupid map!
I loved my PKM...was ranked number 6 in the world for support and number 4 for LMG kills for about 2 years. Infantry only patch made it impossible to keep up once Infantry only Karkand dropped..I did that shit with APC's and Tanks rolling down the street!..once Infantry only hit Karkand became Nade+support bag exploit city..
The old days...Engineers only had shotguns, Anti-Tank was a class who only had PDW's, class had "Armor and Non-Armor" and could only take a few shots till they died (squishy snipers!)
Medic = God mode
LMG's had ZERO accuracy unless you were prone
AA was ONLY mounted at certain points of the map and a pilot had to manuver between them or destroy them (handling air was your own airs problem really...accept the fucking J-10)
Pre-nerf Blackhawks of death! Nade Hopping! Dolphin Dive macros!
Hell even the week I felt like a god when the PKM (Hence my name) was patched accidentally to have sniper like aim!
And throw kit items. Fucks sake, RESUPPLY AND HEAL ME, DAMN IT. I am not mashing those options in the Commorose for my health!
gioGAF
Member
I don't get why people say Battlefield > CoD, they are totally different experiences. I guess since they both have soldiers in them, but still. They almost feel like different genres with similar exteriors to me. I wouldn't play Battlefield when I want the CoD experience or vice versa.
njean777
Member
They really don't anymore, it is easy to knock down any killstreak available. Only the ODIN is really powerful and if people where not stupid and just stayed in buildings until it passes then they wouldn't get demolished by it so easily.
This right here. They really cannot be compared. One is a tactical FPS, while the other is a arena esque, twitch based shooter. It is the same complaint I have when people knock killzone. Killzone is not COD or BF, quit expecting it to play like both of them.
Hip Hop
Member
Exactly.
In fact, I'd say they both compliment each other.
I'm feeling like lone wolfing it, I can jump on Free For All COD.
Some friends want to play a game together? I can jump in Battlefield and do just that.
No need to stop playing one over the other.
Thumbs up to OP Battlefield is pretty epic. Game is a sim of a Battlefield and using your skills to survive and thrive is a great experience. Nothing else like It. Still my fav was the original Vietnam.
Try hardcore sometime also a great experience in Its own right. Personally my fav way to play these days.
Try hardcore sometime also a great experience in Its own right. Personally my fav way to play these days.
Mostly because they market towards each other at this point, EA is pretty aggressive (less now as opposed to when BF3 was being shopped around) with its marketing towards call of duty.
So much so they released the game just to compete head on, when it wasn't ready.
The game has made a lot of progress since, but all we have is hope that they have learned their lesson (don't even hope).
Nirolaks visceral prediction has me excited to see how they will market the followup.
Personally, i replaced my fast action console shooter with halo, and after 4, which i wasn't happy with.. Im looking for a replacement again, in Titanfall.
However battlefield will always be my go to series as long as they stick to their general formula.
user8503492
Banned
The only REAL fun I've ever had with CoD is CoD 4 Hardcore mode..
Stupid ass perks have always made things a joke...that whole x-tra health/armor in 4 was wacktastic..then the ninja knife in another version..super running..etc..
Stupid ass perks have always made things a joke...that whole x-tra health/armor in 4 was wacktastic..then the ninja knife in another version..super running..etc..
jadedm17
Member
I'll agree, as a console-only gamer who prefers shooters.
Halo and Gears were my prefered games, but I bought COD because everyone I know buys it.
Then I got to play BF4 on PS4. My jaw dropped : My K/D was horrible too because I'd spend most of my time watching jets fly by and blowing up buildings with c4.
It still doesn't play like butter as COD does, but thats not a fair complaint.
I'm with you OP : Battlefield and Playstation it is for me for the foreseeable future. (Coming from COD and Xbox 360 of which I've bought as many consoles as I have yearly releases of COD.)
Halo and Gears were my prefered games, but I bought COD because everyone I know buys it.
Then I got to play BF4 on PS4. My jaw dropped : My K/D was horrible too because I'd spend most of my time watching jets fly by and blowing up buildings with c4.
It still doesn't play like butter as COD does, but thats not a fair complaint.
I'm with you OP : Battlefield and Playstation it is for me for the foreseeable future. (Coming from COD and Xbox 360 of which I've bought as many consoles as I have yearly releases of COD.)
Between over 100 hours of BF3 and ~35 of BF4, my keyboard is going to need replacing 'cause I am just hammering on the 'Q' key the whole time.
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't spot. It helps SO MUCH.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
The TDM is BF4 is pretty bad, but it's also better than CoD.
njean777
Member
Who plays TDM on COD, domination is where it is at. Also I still disagree with you, TDM on BF4 is terrible.
Man this is the truth. Sooo many fantastic memories.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I can't go back to Call of duty. I'm a Battlefield 4 man now. I hear you loud and clear. I think DICE deserves more respect despite the bug issues. They topped the best game in the genre and ruined COD for many like me.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Domination in CoD is also TDM. I just think BF4 has better gunplay.
Exactly as I see it.
njean777
Member
Pretty much, but at least the spawns do not suck. I actually haven't had a problem with spawns in Ghosts for TDM, but I play it very rarely as I usually only play domination. But I can see how you prefer the gunplay in BF compared to COD, I enjoy both of them the same (which is a lot).
RMS Gigantic
Member
I agree with the above quoted; I play this game for the scale, except that you just called a destroyer a "battleship." I know this is a really small detail to go off on, but it's a nomenclature error that sometimes pops up that bugs me when it occurs, so a brief lesson in warship nomenclature:
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To the left is a destroyer, to the center is a battleship, and to the right is a heavy cruiser. Notice the size difference between a destroyer and a battleship. The ship that crashes into the island on Parcel Storm is a destroyer, not a battleship. Battleships haven't been in the US Navy in 15 years.
Again, it's a nomenclature detail, but it's one that irks me when it happens.
I agree with the above quoted; I play this game for the scale, except that you just called a destroyer a "battleship." I know this is a really small detail to go off on, but it's a nomenclature error that sometimes pops up that bugs me when it occurs, so a brief lesson in warship nomenclature:
To the left is a destroyer, to the center is a battleship, and to the right is a heavy cruiser. Notice the size difference between a destroyer and a battleship. The ship that crashes into the island on Parcel Storm is a destroyer, not a battleship. Battleships haven't been in the US Navy in 15 years.
Again, it's a nomenclature detail, but it's one that irks me when it happens.
Well i learned something. That destroyer on paracel is awesome, but the battleship in the picture shits on it.
It's amazing that the level of hand holding in games these days is such that we're now calling a competitive multiplayer game immediately challenging because the auto-aim system isn't as forgiving as it could be.
Auto-aim just seems completely at odds with the concept of competitive multiplayer. I understand that a controller isn't quite as precise as a mouse, and Battlefield might have the right balance, but something about 'competitive multiplayer' and 'auto-aim' really doesn't sit well with the me.
You damn right. What took you so long? Serious question.
RMS Gigantic
Member
Yep, there's a reason those things used to be flagships of entire navies: back when they were still being built, battleships would typically rival aircraft carriers in size (in terms of weight, battleships were far more massive than aircraft carriers), and often required thousands of men to act as a crew. If a battleship crashed onto the island on Paracel Storm... well, it probably wouldn't make it that far because battleships were also a lot deeper below the water than a destroyer is....
- Get in the habit of reloading every time you finish unloading your clips.
- Find a gun that suits your style of play. Bigger and chunkier doesn't always mean better.
- Run, Cover, Shoot, Reload, Move, Help your Team, Repeat. Keep that in your head! Running and gunning only will get you kill. Camping only will also get you kill.
- If you are getting destroyed on those big maps then stick to the more exciting close quarter maps.
That is all you have to do. The rest involves practicing the above in mind. If you give your self no chance, i.e. if you are not patient with your progress, then of course you'll be deem as "crap". Truth be told, I thought I was crap until I had to change my mentality. Point 1, 2, and 3 of the above are the most critical. Try again and good luck.
CamHostage
Member
I'm really heartbroken over the horrorshow that Battlefield 4 became at launch, because this is a multiplayer game franchise that really means something to me as a gamer and I can't say that for too many other titles (SOCOM is another, and a lot of stuff on SNES or in arcades when I was a kid even though a lot of those old 2P games are hard to go back to now.) This is a franchise made by people who are really talented and dedicated, I want to see it recover.
All they have to do is get rid of all the showstopper bugs if they do exist and shout out loud when they are all eliminated. That's all.
Winterblink
Member
It's surprisingly chaotic, but in a good way. Once your brain figures out what to filter and what to focus on the initially shitty KDRs become much better.
To be honest though I've had games with BF where my KDR has been complete garbage but it's been a brilliantly fun match to play in. You can still gain buttloads of points supporting your team, and watching the battlefield evolve over the course of a match is really satisfying.
Take this match here: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/421872424939988416/175523850/
Not the most stellar ratio in the world but I had a total blast capturing and defending a single capture point for a while with a buddy of mine. I must have revived him a dozen times in a single engagement.
This is what's great about BF. I remember a couple weeks ago I finished a game of Conquest and thought - "Holy shit I did terribly that round...."
Ended up with an MVP ribbon with 3 kills and 2 deaths lol
rudieboy77
Member
My only complaint about 4 is it feels slower than 3. It is almost a return to the pace of BFBC2, which I'm sure some like. I kinda wish they would have made BFBC1 on PC to see how that would have worked, on 360 you couldn't see anything past the fog.
I like both CoD and the BF series to be honest, I there is room for both and do not need to be the same. Plus there are a ton of people still playing CoD4 on PC so I hop in there at least once every couple days.
I like both CoD and the BF series to be honest, I there is room for both and do not need to be the same. Plus there are a ton of people still playing CoD4 on PC so I hop in there at least once every couple days.
CitizenCope
Member
I'm with you OP. Always been a COD player but this shit cray yo. Done with COD. BF wasn't an option for me before though because the dog shit frame rate on consoles.
B_Spooky13
Member
A few things to remember about BF OP
Try to spot.
Play the objective.
Try not to be Rambo.. K/D doesn't matter.
Try to spot.
Play the objective.
Try not to be Rambo.. K/D doesn't matter.
Good god, the one thing that drives me up the wall is this BS, with Helicopters.
There should be no repairing done by your teammates unless they are out of the vehicle. Its such a nightmare to take out a heli by yourself when this is happening. I know "It's part of the game.." blah blah blah, still it's frustrating.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Fix'd that for you
I'm with you. I can't believed I ignored this franchise.
My first experience with Battlefield was with the BF3 beta, wasn't a fan so skipped 3. Played 4's beta and it interested me. Not enough to pick it up at launch (wish I did) and got a copy for Christmas.
I have very little issues on 360 and looking forward to getting a xbone and playing bigger matches.
Ghosts turned me off, waiting for Treyarch's next game. Then I'll play both simultaneously.
My first experience with Battlefield was with the BF3 beta, wasn't a fan so skipped 3. Played 4's beta and it interested me. Not enough to pick it up at launch (wish I did) and got a copy for Christmas.
I have very little issues on 360 and looking forward to getting a xbone and playing bigger matches.
Ghosts turned me off, waiting for Treyarch's next game. Then I'll play both simultaneously.
Played the hell out of BF4 before ghosts launched. Working on my 6th prestige and haven't been back since. Despite the problems with Ghosts the killstreaks have been toned down, the gunplay is the tightest its ever been and the net code is fantastic.
Tried to get back in with the next Gen and 64 players was to much for me and had me craving the gunplay of call of duty.
Tried to get back in with the next Gen and 64 players was to much for me and had me craving the gunplay of call of duty.
NJDEN
Member
I've been playing BF4 nearly since its release on PC...
Early build actually played fine, it wasnt until they applied some of their patches that I began to crash.
Having been playing it multiple times over the past few days I haven't encountered one game breaking issue or random disconnect. I have noticed that their are some strange texture glitches at high altitudes in jets or helicopters, but otherwise it plays pretty great as far as I can see... (And that includes China Rising)
Early build actually played fine, it wasnt until they applied some of their patches that I began to crash.
Having been playing it multiple times over the past few days I haven't encountered one game breaking issue or random disconnect. I have noticed that their are some strange texture glitches at high altitudes in jets or helicopters, but otherwise it plays pretty great as far as I can see... (And that includes China Rising)
Ethereal Ardor
Banned
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Mr. PlayStation
Member
Couldn't have agreed more, except for the last few words ' I should have made this change ages ago', well ages ago the BF games were never 60fps on consoles!
