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Google Strikes Again: All YouTube Comments Are G+ Username Only
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Deleted member 1235
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you overestimate the intelligence of people.
speculawyer
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Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Azure Dream
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Real names don't fix anything. It just makes it easier for creepy people to stalk you and harass you elsewhere.
Azure Dream
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It's pretty damn obvious they're going to force everyone to switch over eventually. It's the same way they handled things before (remember when YouTube accounts were separate from Google accounts?). Google is hellbent on pushing G+, G+ does have requirements about using real names that could technically get all your Google services clamped down on if you violate it (had it happen to friends before). Hence this is a blatant step toward forcing real names ultimately.
bodyboarder
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I find it more shocking people actually read the comments on YouTube.
Eh no? They've already created a channel G+ page with no personal information for you. I am looking at it right now and there's no real name. It's a channel page and is different from a personal account. It allows you to identify customers, VIPs and team members.
You can make up conspiracy theories of things that have not happened yet, but that in no way reflects the reality. This is seriously almost as bad as people being misinformed on Obama care.
Common sense also tells us that this is the way to go. They can never force real name on a channel because there are a lot organizations and small businesses running channels.
It was just fine having everything being consolidated under my google account, thankyouverymuch. I don't like G+ getting showed down my throat.
It acts just like that if you never go to your G+ page, and you don't have to.
ThisWreckage
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I am...John Doe.
I fully intend to ignore my "channel g+ page", so I know. I just heavily dislike google using this to pad their silly social network numbers. I just want to have my subscriptions to the couple channels I watch but google keeps fucking with that.
Chinpoko_Master
Member
I can't wait to read comments from users such as Jonathan McFuckshit.
Azure Dream
Member
They want you to link up your personal G+ account for commenting. Which I never agreed to them creating one for me (because it required agreeing to a different set of terms that I didn't want applied to my email and such), but I'm sure by now they've automatically switched me over anyway.
FFS, are you seriously comparing my distaste of Google's push of G+ and its terms of service that I did not agree to when I signed up to their other services, to Obamacare conspiracy theorists? No, no respect for you at this point.
Corporations and big names always get exclusions. There is nothing new about that.
Who cares about your respect? Multiple people have posted images where you absolutely do not need to use your real name at all. You can continue to spread misinformation and people will continue to refute your false claims. This is exactly the kind of intellectual dishonesty of people who continue to spread misinformation about Obama care displayed, my comparison is apt.
For fucks sake, "I'm sure by now they have automatically switched me over anyway" is the bullshit conspiracy.
Oh no, my privacy. What am I gonna do now that everyone knows that I'm Superman?
Twilight Gap
Member
Lost my youtube account when my old gmail got hacked and terminated. Fuck this gmail noise.
Snapshot King
Member
Same, all this managed to make me do is delete everything tied between me and G+. Oh, I can't comment now? Oh curses.
Is it so wrong all I want gmail for is an email client, and all I want youtube for is to view videos?
Azure Dream
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Any attempt to connect G+ discussion to Obamacare is absolutely fucking ridiculous. One is a social network/unified account system, the other is universal health care. "I think you're saying the wrong things about it" does not make such a moronic comparison valid.
My statements are as follows:
1. Real names do not fix issues. That is my opinion. There has been a strong push lately to push everyone's names publicly onto services. In my opinion, it does not fix hatred or trolling issues. It simply makes it easier for unsavory people to target women and minorities, for employers and information gatherers to track you (this is already easy, but slapping your real name onto everything makes it a cake walk), it means dangerous people have an easier time figuring out who you are, and harassing or assaulting you offline.
2. It is pretty obvious Google will likely to do the same thing when they originally had both YouTube and Google accounts. They originally said both would coexist, then they kept suggesting people switch over, then they made it harder or impossible to dismiss the "link up your Google account" notifications, and then I believe they just automatically switched over the remaining stragglers. You would have to be blind to not see how hard Google's pushing their G+ service, even to people who signed up for other services who have no interest in it. Google already served as a functional account aggregate before G+, and G+ comes with baggage some of us do not want. As before, I strongly believe they're going to keep pushing an inch at a time until you have absolutely no choice. But they usually make accommodations at first, to soften the transition. That doesn't mean those accommodations will last.
Are you specifically stating that I am absolutely not bound to G+ terms of service at this point? Because I never approved them to switch me over.
Oh no, my privacy. What am I gonna do now that everyone knows that I'm Superman?
Get randomly flagged when you least expect it, have to argue with a Google employee over changing it to something "normal"... I've had friends HAD Google lock down their Gmail and everything because they agreed to the G+ switchover, and then Google said, "We don't like the name you signed up with!" This is not conspiracy, this happened. Multiple times. There may be lots of people running around as "Scout Dodger" or "Fart McButtpoop", but they can be flagged at any time for review. And if real names didn't matter, why the push for a FirstName LastName structure? Because they want you to actually use your real name. And there's the possibility that in the future, they'll find a way to enforce that, possibly labeling it as a "convenience".
uuaschbaer
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I'm afraid this internet bubble trend is going to give us all a very skewed perspective on what the rest of the world is like. Where are the people I used to enjoy hating?
No it is not. It exactly mirrors privacy concerns on signing up Obamacare on the website, which is a bunch of bullshit, like the stuff you are saying.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/25/1250557/-Marsha-Blackburn-Stonewalls-when-Questioned-on-ObamaCare-Privacy
How would I know that? The only person who can answer that question is you. If you have at some point checked a box that agreed to their terms and conditions, then you are.
None of what you said made sense because as I have explained before, and you ignored again and continue to spread misinformation. It's a g+ page, not a g+ personal profile. The page you create using whatever alias you choose works the same as a page from an independent record label or a TV channel. It contains no personal information whatsoever.
So once again, false claims and repeatedly refusal to look at facts.
Azure Dream
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Oh, now it's Obamacare PRIVACY? Earlier you just said "misinformation about Obamacare", I assumed you were talking about the "Death Panels" people and such.
Oh, and this is still about a social network/account aggregate, NOT NATIONAL HEALTH CARE.
I said I didn't agree to it, didn't I? And you were so sure that saying I was signed up to G+ terms was "bullshit conspiracy." But I do recall those terms having a "We notified you by XX/XX/XX date" line, hence my assumption that despite me doing all I could to specifically avoid agreeing to G+ terms while still using services like Gmail and the like, that I was probably forced into those terms at some point regardless.
So if you are absolutely confident that current Google users, that did not actively agree to G+ terms, are not bound by those terms, please say so definitively. You could be right! I would prefer you to be right. Please say so, absolutely definitively. Guarantee it, if you feel so strongly that any suggestion of the alternative is "bullshit conspiracy."
And even if that is true today, I personally don't believe that would remain true in the future.
What if I don't want a G+ page tied to my account, period? If I can just ignore the service, as some suggest, why is it being forced on me?
And the answer is apparently that it's both. I'm trying to look up a picture of the notification you get when clicking on the box, but in the meantime, I found an older post on the subject:
http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/24/youtube-announces-a-new-google-powered-commenting-system/
[Edit: Double-checking this second image, I think it's stated incorrectly.]
So basically, you're tied into Google+, you're just allowed to obfuscate your name, to some degree, currently. This was not the case early on with G+, and I have the suspicion it will not remain the case for average users, due to "abuse issues" or some such excuse. I do not want G+ tied to my account, I don't care if it's a "courtesy page" they create, and that they double-swears they'll never require personal information of me. (Most of which they have through other means, anyway, if they so desire it.)
Google allows you to create a G+ page for your nickname, so there really is no problem.
I mean, seriously, this is my YT G+ account: https://plus.google.com/110254156055689824705/about
I mean, seriously, this is my YT G+ account: https://plus.google.com/110254156055689824705/about
Seems like you have no idea how analogy works as well as being a conspiracy theorist.
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Exactly.
Hasn't affected me, really. Here's my Resident Evil site's Google+ page and YouTube page for example, both connected. I don't believe that you're forced to connect them, though they do ask quite annoyingly.
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qizah
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I'm okay with this.
Azure Dream
Member
Basically "You don't have to use the service, you just have to use the service a little."
Seems like you have no idea how how moronic it is to try to draw an analogy between a social network information you believe is wrong, and life-and-death health care. Seriously, I get the basic gist of what you're trying to say, and it's STILL FUCKING RIDICULOUS. What's next, a holocaust denier comparison? Give me a fucking break.
I like how you had no other response to my points. I already wasted my energy trying to talk to you, trying to explain my side, even if I am not 100% familiar with the current state of G+ (because I don't want to use it, because I don't like it). Things like pages used to be explicitly tied to your accounts, I found pages saying as much. Now they may not be anymore? I have a hard time believing it isn't still at least internally tied to your Google account, and you're still agreeing to G+ terms to do as much. I put up with you calling one of my points "bullshit conspiracy", but you won't even guarantee the binary alternative.
Short version: Real names don't fix problems. I don't want to be forced to use G+, not even "just a little", because I've seen their failures with the service in the past and I don't have faith in them to not repeat those same or similar mistakes and privacy violations in the future. And stupid, insulting analogies don't add anything to the conversation, they're just a weak attempt to paint the other side negatively to third parties. For example, I used one above in anger, and did it add anything of merit?
But I lost all respect for you several posts ago. I don't need the board's built-in function to ignore you.
You must hate all those websites using Disqus then.
Yes there is a problem. I DON'T WANT A GOOGLE + ACCOUNT!. I do not under any circumstances want a social profile page attached to my YouTube account.
Time's a changing.
Private information? What is that?
Did you even click on that link? It has NO information at all. Nothing.
I can find out more about you from your NeoGAF profile than I can find out from that G+ page.
I'm all for blowing your lid about privacy issues, but all this is is just another commenting system that has you register a username and password and people do that all over the web. You did it to become a member here too and I don't see you getting all upset over Evilore knowing where you live and what you do for a living.
TheSadRanger
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Ludicrous Speed
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I'm okay with this. No more anonymity! I want to know who you are!!! Geeeeeeeeeeeeet used to it1!
I don't see why anyone cares. The YouTube comment section is a cesspool anyways, and I don't really see why you would want to make conversation and/or comment there. Most of the people that do are ridiculously off-base so to speak. If the real name thing is really bothering you, just make a fake one. It honestly can't get much worse.
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