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Teh Hamburglar said:
I suppose that's a point.
Are there any PoliceGAFers? I'd be curious as to how it really works.
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Got a police officer trainee test in the morning.
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I suppose that's a point.
Are there any PoliceGAFers? I'd be curious as to how it really works.
Jamesfrom818
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bjork said:
Wow its nothing like the Dept of Corrections test. The test I took was just to make sure we could lift things and not get a heart attack if we had to run. I guess thats to be expected though since a cop would likely be running around outside while a correctional officer would just be indoors beating inmates with a stick.
speculawyer
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I guess that is why you are not a cop?Jason's Ultimatum said:
Jason's Ultimatum
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speculawyer said:
i c wut u did thar :lol :lol
Shotgun Kiss
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bjork said:
Answer: "Holy shit, that guy has a SWORD, that is totally bitchin'."
Neuromancer
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Good job man.bjork said:
Doesn't sound so bad.bjork said:
bjork said:
Grats on moving on.
We have the 6' wall stuff here at some departments. The agility course varies from dept to dept as well. My tests were (to the best of my memory at that time):
1.5mi run in 12:32
40 full sit ups in 1 min
103% (iirc) of my body weight on a bench press
300m dash 52secs.
Good Luck!
I looked up a breakdown of the times on the events, but for different places. I guess it varies. One place wants a 1:50 time on the run, another wants 2:20. Oh, and I was off on the body weight you have to drag. It's 165lb, not 65 (65 did seem way light), so I think I'm gonna see if my coworker will let me drag him a time or two at work tonight. The run was the main thing I was concerned about, but I'm right around 2:00 so I feel pretty decent about it.
Even if I don't manage to pass, at least I'm getting in the habit of moving more. That's a plus for myself.
Even if I don't manage to pass, at least I'm getting in the habit of moving more. That's a plus for myself.
will52 said:
No, it was like a page of explanation of crimes, then the page next to it is like "bob pays judy to kill steve. But steve survives. What is bob guilty of?" Also lots of diagrams of traffic accidents, and you had to pick which picture was the most accurate representation of the text describing the accidents.
Jason's Ultimatum
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I told ya.
You better start getting in shape fast, or maybe at least wait until there's another class that opens up. Around here it's like in January and the other in August/October.
You better start getting in shape fast, or maybe at least wait until there's another class that opens up. Around here it's like in January and the other in August/October.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Friday? Erm, yeaaaaaah. :lol :lol
I did the NYPD Officers exam a while back.
Written exam was a piece of cake surprisingly. Mostly common sense and memorization of a scene.
Medical Examination was a combo of drug testing, eye test, hearing test, get down to underwear... in groups... and have hearts examined and tattoo's photographed, then you had to go into a room with three guys. One was a doctor I think and two others seemed to be officers or some other higher up. They would quickly show you what exercise movements you'd be making, jumping jacks, squats, pushup position and then they'd quickly have you go through all those motions in succession.
Psychological exam was long. it's a 1000 question sort of exam where they try to trip you up asking the same question in different ways. After that you had an actual one on one talk with their in house psychologist. Pretty quick and painless.
After all that you have the physical exam where you jump the 6 ft wall, sprints, stair runs, dragging a body and "firing" an empty gun with your left and then your right hand through a ring, without touching the ring.
I only had the physical exam to go but I stopped then. :T Circumstances in my life made me decide to stop. Your first written exam places you in a group and you have three years to be eligible. Like a fool it took me 2 and 1/2 years to man up and actually go through the motions and in the end I didn't follow through. My good friend is an officer and he makes it sound really exciting. The money you make is ridiculous and the benefits? hoofah. Sure your life is on the line but you get a lot of training and if you're proactive about learning defensive methods I think you can make it through without thinking the job is a death sentence like some ppl think it is.
Academy life sounds a little tough. You gotta have a thick skin and be ready to go through intensive training. According to my friend, they make you run until you can't do it anymore. Every time they have a running session, someone is sure to get sent to get medical attention because you get pushed hard. They have mandated sparring sessions and both ppl involved are encouraged to not hold back because ppl on the street will sure as hell not be holding back.
Written exam was a piece of cake surprisingly. Mostly common sense and memorization of a scene.
Medical Examination was a combo of drug testing, eye test, hearing test, get down to underwear... in groups... and have hearts examined and tattoo's photographed, then you had to go into a room with three guys. One was a doctor I think and two others seemed to be officers or some other higher up. They would quickly show you what exercise movements you'd be making, jumping jacks, squats, pushup position and then they'd quickly have you go through all those motions in succession.
Psychological exam was long. it's a 1000 question sort of exam where they try to trip you up asking the same question in different ways. After that you had an actual one on one talk with their in house psychologist. Pretty quick and painless.
After all that you have the physical exam where you jump the 6 ft wall, sprints, stair runs, dragging a body and "firing" an empty gun with your left and then your right hand through a ring, without touching the ring.
I only had the physical exam to go but I stopped then. :T Circumstances in my life made me decide to stop. Your first written exam places you in a group and you have three years to be eligible. Like a fool it took me 2 and 1/2 years to man up and actually go through the motions and in the end I didn't follow through. My good friend is an officer and he makes it sound really exciting. The money you make is ridiculous and the benefits? hoofah. Sure your life is on the line but you get a lot of training and if you're proactive about learning defensive methods I think you can make it through without thinking the job is a death sentence like some ppl think it is.
Academy life sounds a little tough. You gotta have a thick skin and be ready to go through intensive training. According to my friend, they make you run until you can't do it anymore. Every time they have a running session, someone is sure to get sent to get medical attention because you get pushed hard. They have mandated sparring sessions and both ppl involved are encouraged to not hold back because ppl on the street will sure as hell not be holding back.
quickwhips
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Most of the people i see fail to be cops is because of the polygraphs. The written part is easy. The physical part is ok if you can get through the bootcamp stuff. But so many people fail the polygraph. At least for the state police. I don't know about local stuff.
Neuromancer
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I applied for a police job once and got asked if I'd had sex with animals or dead bodies. =\will52 said:
quickwhips said:
That's where I got hung up on the 911 dispatch process last time. I'm still in the pool for my second attempt at that job.
Neuromancer said:
^on the 911 interview I got "you've never put peanut butter on your genitals and let an animal lick it off?" That still boggles my mind.
Neuromancer
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Best part is, the guy tried to be all casual about it, like it wouldn't be that weird for me to say yes. At one point he was even like, "hehe you know when I was a teenager there were times where the family dog was starting to look pretty good" or something like that. :lol
WanderingWind said:
You rang?
WanderingWind said:
Police don't hand out parking tickets. That's bylaw enforcement/meter maids.
The implication you're making is absurd. There's a lot of tedium in both careers, but there's also lots of adrenaline-pumping moments in policing, I can assure you.
Teh Hamburglar said:
Unfortunately, Ham, you're full of shit. There are all too many people out there all too willing and eager to kill cops. On Friday, I attended the first police funeral of my career for an OPP officer who was shot and killed conducting a roadside stop.
BladeWorker
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I'm pretty sure that's not the kind of thing you want to say to a cop who just attended a fellow officer's funeral.Xeke said:
An officer who (in addition to his role as constable) had a wife, three kids of his own, and contributed a great deal to his community.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Xeke said:
You're a douchebag.
Xeke said:
The officer who died had a wife and three young sons, aged 7, 10, and 12.
He was an active churchgoer, and active in the community. He volunteered in the local hockey scene.
He was a refugee from the Vietnam war, who came to this country with such grateful appreciation and love of humanity that he wanted to help others and make a difference, and that is why he joined the police.
He treated those he arrested with respect.
He loved nothing more in life than taking his sons hunting and fishing and watching them play hockey.
I stood outside on Friday and listened as his wife and young sons described how much they loved him, and how much they would miss him. And I cried.
And the man who killed him? He was allegedly a manipulative, controlling husband who made his wife miserable for decades, until she finally found the courage to leave him. On the day in question, he was on his way to kill his wife and anyone who hid her affair from him.
The officer's intervention and sacrifice assuredly saved a handful of lives that day.
And you?
You are a piece of shit.
FunkyMunkey
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Xeke said:
smh
OuterWorldVoice said:
But in my mind, it was a disingenuous one.
Why should he feel bad about talking shit about cops after one has died in the line of duty?
After all, he talks shit about them when they're alive. He jokes about how they "don't have souls" when they're alive. He considers them all to be corrupt assholes when they're alive.
Why should he change his tune when one dies? Am I to really believe that in the instant that when a police officer goes from living to dead, that he suddenly has empathy for us?
The officer who died still had children when he was alive. He still volunteered in his community when he was alive. He still took his children fishing when he was alive. He still treated people with respect when he was alive.
But to Xeke, none of that matters. So long as they're alive, every cop is, apparently, a corrupt piece of shit.
And he, I suppose, thinks that because of a few personal experiences he has with the cops in his home town, and the stories he reads on the internet. That is what has formed his opinion.
And of course, this is just an internet forum. Maybe he views it all as a joke. That he's just playing a role. That, seated at a computer, he gets a real kick out of posting "fuck the police" in every cop thread.
But.
But...
For me, it's not a joke. For me, it's not "just the internet"
For me, it's my life. For me, for the past two and a half years, I have lived my career knowing that my life might be at risk. I have lived knowing that my career is not about harrassing college-aged potheads and getting a kick out of asserting my authority.
But it is knowing that the job is about attending and trying to bring SOME sort of peace to a domestic situation.
It is about attending fatal car collisions. And about the heartbreaking task of notifying next of kin that their loved one has died.
It is about the thankless task of breaking up drunken bar brawls. And about being spit on.
It is about dealing with gangbangers and the mentally unstable.
It is about pulling people over on rural roads and not knowing who the person in the vehicle is, or what their state of mind is. Knowing that, just maybe, they'll freak the fuck out and try to take your life.
There is a phrase in Ontario that is used for police memorials. It is: "Heroes in life, not death." Which is to say, you don't suddenly become sympathetic and respectful just because an officer died. What makes the officer a "hero" is not the fact that he died, but what he did while he was alive.
So there can be no respect for people like Xeke who talk endless shit about the police when they're alive, but are willing to offer vacuous apologies and condolences when one of us dies.
As for myself, I have no desire to consider myself "superior" to others because my career involves danger.
But I do believe my career deserves respect. And it is for the following reason:
Because when gunshots and screams ring out, everyone else runs away. But we run towards it.
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Bowflex said:
I think bjork is just wanting a job that doesnt involve selling japanese porno comics.
quickwhips
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Did you fail the polygraph when you took it? I know where I'm at if you fail it they won't hire you for any part of the police force...sworn or civilian. Well good luck man. Hope all works out. Its not bad pay and you get a take home car here.
GodfatherX
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its very much like any standardized test you took in high school, reading comprehension and some math, I took one in 08 for a 911 dispatcher job, but all the others taking it were there for the police department...don't stress it
BladeWorker
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You park your car where it is prohibited, you get a ticket, and you want to blame law enforcement?mcrae said:
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Good riddance. Please don't come back.
mcrae said:
First blame yourself for doing something you're not supposed to (according the the law.) Then maybe you can get mad at the people who wrote the law.
BladeWorker
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Not offended, just laughing at the irony.mcrae said:
If it's not signed in your area that parking is prohibited between 2 and 6 (etc) then there's two things you can do:
1. Make nice with your neighbours (because they're the ones who report the car so it will get tagged, unless you live in a high-traffic area that bylaw enforcement tags regularly)
2. Call your local clerk's department and ask how you can get an overnight permit for street parking. They're less expensive than getting parking tickets for bylaw violations.
bjork a cop? Oh my.
Well, I hope you get the job. I hope anyone gets a freaking job.
So this is how I imagine the conversation between bjork and bjork's friend went re: pulling
bjork: Can I pull you?
bjork's friend: WTF?
bj: Can I pull you.
bj's friend: I'm not gay
bj: Neither am I.
bj's friend: Okay, cool. You're not gonna tell anyone?
bj: Nope
bj's friend: Okay, pull away, but be gentle
bj: mmmkay
The end
Well, I hope you get the job. I hope anyone gets a freaking job.
So this is how I imagine the conversation between bjork and bjork's friend went re: pulling
bjork: Can I pull you?
bjork's friend: WTF?
bj: Can I pull you.
bj's friend: I'm not gay
bj: Neither am I.
bj's friend: Okay, cool. You're not gonna tell anyone?
bj: Nope
bj's friend: Okay, pull away, but be gentle
bj: mmmkay
The end
mcrae said:
A) What BladeWorker said.
B) Where do you live? If in a decent-sized city, it is bylaw enforcement that probably ticketed you. They may be employed by the city's police service, but they will not be sworn police officers, which means they are not "the police".
in the end: blame yourself for disobeying city regulations. We're not "picking fights" or "being dicks" for your own mistakes.
newsflash: this winter I got a parking ticket for parking roadside between 10pm and 1:30 am. I didn't whine about it, or try to get out of it because I'm a cop. I shrugged my shoulders at my own mistake and paid the damn thing. Quit your bitching.
i live in a city of 80,000 people. our police have a couple headquarters in different cities in the region, and are known as the regional police.
now to defend my viewpoint:
some laws don't make sense. it may still be the law, but it being law does not result in it being logical. my van being on the street at night is no more harmful than it being on the street in the daytime, and because of that i do get irritated when i am ticketed. as i said, it is not a high volume street, as it is one-way.
no need to get all high and mighty on me, boogie. you're definitly not exemplifying this earlier quote:
i can see where both you and bladeworker are coming from: "its the law; don't ask questions" but i am surprised, and disapointed, that you seem to not be able to see where i am coming from.
edit to address your edit:
i wasnt bitching up till this post, i had only asked a question, holy shit you're a jackass
now to defend my viewpoint:
some laws don't make sense. it may still be the law, but it being law does not result in it being logical. my van being on the street at night is no more harmful than it being on the street in the daytime, and because of that i do get irritated when i am ticketed. as i said, it is not a high volume street, as it is one-way.
no need to get all high and mighty on me, boogie. you're definitly not exemplifying this earlier quote:
Boogie said:
i can see where both you and bladeworker are coming from: "its the law; don't ask questions" but i am surprised, and disapointed, that you seem to not be able to see where i am coming from.
edit to address your edit:
i wasnt bitching up till this post, i had only asked a question, holy shit you're a jackass
BladeWorker
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Pfft, I lived in a suburban cul-de-sac for years growing up. Parking there overnight? Lots of people got ticketed. In the summers, it seems really dumb. No snow to remove. Nobody was blocking a hydrant.mcrae said:
But it's still the law. You don't "question" a law by breaking it. Unfortunately, the system doesn't work that way.
If it's a bylaw you're dealing with, petition your councillor to have the law changed.
If it's a provincial statute you're dealing with, petition your MPP. If it's a federal statute, petition your MP.
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