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[BigDes]

I'm kind of surprised it wont be on Steam though. I had assumed all Source games would have to be put on the service.

 

[patapuf]

I feel like the people that support origin are the same people that support pay to play multiplayer games. Can you guys stop ruining it for everyone else? I'm not getting a ps4 thanks to people supporting multiplayer paywalls. If I have to have 5 different clients to play all the different games from different publishers on my pc, its going to be the people that supported these services that will be to blame.

Steam is my prefered service for playing games. However, having to manage multiple logins has always been a thing in PC gaming (it being an open platform and all).

Origin works (as opposed to GFWL f.e.) which is all i require (well that and minimal DRM).

Also, monopolies are always bad. Even if it's Valve.

 

[cramoss]

I'm ok with this.

 

[Grief.exe]

Oh, yeah, by the way, it's going to be the same thing for Mirror's Edge 2.

Mirror's Edge IP is wholly owned and published by EA, check first page for explanations into EA Partners for context.

 

[Elixist]

yay for no windows 8 *claps mits like a circus walrus* . I havent had a problem with Origin so day 1 probably.

 

[Werhil]

I prefer Steam overall I guess, but I don't get why Origin is a deal-break for some folks. For the few times I've used it, it seems like a simple launcher essentially and once the game is going it makes no difference. Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[Victrix]

If you're objecting to this on some sort of anti-EA principle, good on you I guess

If you're objecting because of digital platform DRM and you're using Steam, check your hypocrisy at the door

 

[Card Boy]

I feel like the people that support origin are the same people that support pay to play multiplayer games. Can you guys stop ruining it for everyone else? I'm not getting a ps4 thanks to people supporting multiplayer paywalls. If I have to have 5 different clients to play all the different games from different publishers on my pc, its going to be the people that supported these services that will be to blame.

I feel I got dumber for reading this post.

 

[Open Source]

A list of games I've bought on Origin (or its precursor, EA Downloader):

- Hellgate: London
- SimCity
- Star Wars: the Old Republic
- Spore

So you can understand why I quit.

 

[BasilZero]

Really shocking....really.

As long as it isnt on Windows 8 I am fine lol.

 

[I H8 Memes]

Damn I was looking forward to this game too. Ah well, it isnt like I would have played it anyway. I would have just thought about playing is then ended up playing Dota 2 like I do with every other game I own.

 

[DangerDave]

Steam is my prefered service for playing games. However, having to manage multiple logins has always been a thing in PC gaming (it being an open platform and all).

Origin works (say, as opposed to GFWL) which is all i require.

Also, monopolies are always bad. Even if it's Valve.

Agreed that monopolies are bad but what's even worse is a super fragmented PC community aka before there was Steam. The problem is things can very easily go back to having 50 different logins, accounts, gamespies, xfires (tried to tie it all together), arena something or other, and many others I have been able to remove from my memory. It was terrible, and drove people to consoles. Steam simplifies things and makes PC a reasonably easy platform to use. People that use origin, uplay, etc. are telling publishers that every publisher is should have it's own platform.

 

[ebullientprism]

I feel like the people that support origin are the same people that support pay to play multiplayer games. Can you guys stop ruining it for everyone else? I'm not getting a ps4 thanks to people supporting multiplayer paywalls. If I have to have 5 different clients to play all the different games from different publishers on my pc, its going to be the people that supported these services that will be to blame.

I really, really hope this is sarcasm.

 

[Card Boy]

I really, really hope this is sarcasm.

I hope so too. My meter has being broken since E3.

 

[jj984jj]

Wasn't the biggest reason people didn't like Origin is because they didn't want EA collecting data on their PC and invading their privacy?

 

[AppleMIX]

Wasn't the biggest reason people didn't like Origin is because they didn't want EA collecting data on their PC and invading their privacy?

Which turned out to be completely bogus.

Seriously, its 2013.

Origin should be welcomed with open arms as a competitor to steam. It's not like anyone is stepping up to the plate.

That's part of it. There are other bad parts too which have probably been fixed or at least addressed.

Question: Are there any non-EA games on Origin?

Yes.

 

[Syntax]

Wasn't the biggest reason people didn't like Origin is because they didn't want EA collecting data on their PC and potentially invading their privacy?

That's part of it. There are other bad parts too which have probably been fixed or at least addressed.

Question: Are there any non-EA games on Origin?

 

[DangerDave]

I really, really hope this is sarcasm.

Eh, maybe the connection is reaching a bit. Think of it this way, people who bend over and take it from a company, which in turn tells the company that they can get away with it, makes the company impose this business practice on everyone else. Someone has to support this kind of stuff for a company to stay in business and continue doing it.

 

[CecilRousso]

If you're objecting to this on some sort of anti-EA principle, good on you I guess

If you're objecting because of digital platform DRM and you're using Steam, check your hypocrisy at the door

Quite a lot of people are objecting because of that we accept and like Steam, it doesn't mean that we want every publisher to do their own Steam.

 

[Card Boy]

Question: Are there any non-EA games on Origin?

Some Sega, THQ, SE and Ubisoft games.

 

[ebullientprism]

Eh, maybe the connection is reaching a bit. Think of it this way, people who bend over and take it from a company, which in turn tells the company that they can get away with it, makes the company impose this business practice on everyone else. Someone has to support this kind of stuff for a company to stay in business and continue doing it.

So you think that people who buy from different sources and support competition in an ecosystem are bending over and taking it from a company.

And you are advocating that all competition be culled so you can hand monopoly to one single entity. All because you are too lazy to launch a client and log in (which BTW you can set the client to do automatically)?

Are you sure that its the others who are bending over and not you??

 

[Polk]

Question: Are there any non-EA games on Origin?

Lot of them. Tomb Raider was even (or still is) heavily discounted last week.

 

[DangerDave]

Quite a lot of people are objecting because of that we accept and like Steam, it doesn't mean that we want every publisher to do their own Steam.

Right exactly. And I have no problem with devs that want to just put a game out there drm free from their website that I can just play without any extra annoyances/login junk. Heck, you can even add the games to your steam (or origin/uplay) list just for extra convenience.

 

[cyberheater]

Holy shit, there is still people that refuse to use Origin. Build a bridge and get over it kids.

No. It's Steam or nothing.

(Although there are days I can feel my resolve crumbling...)

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

Thought this was obvious? Honestly Origin would probably be alright if any of my steam friends were on it .

 

[RetroDLC]

I thought it was a license term for all Source games to be released through Steam, or is that just limited to Steamworks implementation?

 

[vazel]

So you think that people who buy from different sources and support competition in an ecosystem are bending over and taking it from a company.

And you are advocating that all competition be culled so you can hand monopoly to one single entity. All because you are too lazy to launch a client and log in (which BTW you can set the client to do automatically)?

Are you sure that its the others who are bending over and not you??

The attitude some of these people have is scary. As much as I like Steam I do not want them to become another monolithic entity like PayPal.

 

[AppleMIX]

Quite a lot of people are objecting because of that we accept and like Steam, it doesn't mean that we want every publisher to do their own Steam.

Every publisher has their own steam?

Last time I checked only two have clients (steam and origin)

The uplay client is just a launcher. Desura focuses almost entirely on indie games and Impulse is dead in the water.

 

[DangerDave]

So you think that people who buy from different sources and support competition in an ecosystem are bending over and taking it from a company.

And you are advocating that all competition be culled so you can hand monopoly to one single entity. All because you are too lazy to launch a client and log in (which BTW you can set the client to do automatically)?

Are you sure that its the others who are bending over and not you??

If someone was sold out on origin and only used it, then that's cool. But for the people who use Steam for 99% of their games and then EA decides to start a competitor and launches a service and locks down the one good game they have (bf3) I would recommend that people give EA the finger and not support them. This would be telling them that we value an easy to use system, from a not evil company, with a single friends list, convenience, whatever, etc etc you get the point.

 

[DangerDave]

Every publisher has their own steam?

Last time I checked only two have clients (steam and origin)

The uplay client is just a launcher. Desura focuses almost entirely on indie games and Impulse is dead in the water.

The potential is there. In the future. As in, if we let EA do this, what to stop Activision from doing it? Then Square, Capcom, Warner Bros, Atlus, etc.

 

[iavi]

I feel like the people that support origin are the same people that support pay to play multiplayer games. Can you guys stop ruining it for everyone else? I'm not getting a ps4 thanks to people supporting multiplayer paywalls. If I have to have 5 different clients to play all the different games from different publishers on my pc, its going to be the people that supported these services that will be to blame.

I support the PC platform; I'd like things to be peachy clean and line up the exact way that I'd like on it, but the world is the world and that isn't going to happen. Steam releases for all and everything would be ace, and I buy everything I can on it, but a monopoly, admittedly, is good for no one, and I don't mind reluctantly supporting some competition when the need be, even if it is produced by *shudder* EA.

Same reason I buy from GOG. Same reason I buy from the Win 8 store.

 

[Card Boy]

Every publisher has their own steam?

Last time I checked only two have clients (steam and origin)

The uplay client is just a launcher. Desura focuses almost entirely on indie games and Impulse is dead in the water.

Not pubs per say but

Greenman Gaming have a client
Gamefly have a client (previously Direct2Drive)

 

[Frankie Williamson]

Trying to talk someone who isn't computer literate over the phone over how to register all the Sims 3 stuff from the EA humble bundle reminded me of why I don't like it. Nearly every key needed to go somewhere different and she needed to make both an Origin account and a Sims community account. What a fucking mess.

 

[Goon Boon]

My main problem with Origin that instead of trying to create reasonable competition with Steam by matching features, they just locked down BF3 and ME3 (the latter being a blessing in disguise).

They're starting to fix it now with stuff like that refund system, but if you piss in my eye don't think I won't blink.

 

[AppleMIX]

The potential is there. In the future. As in, if we let EA do this, what to stop Activision from doing it? Then Square, Capcom, Warner Bros, Atlus, etc.

So we should just all bow down to steam and give them a monopoly? Yeah no thanks.

None of those companies will do it because they're is already too much competition between steam and origin.

 

[DangerDave]

I support the PC platform; I'd like things to be peachy clean and line up the exact way that I'd like on it, but the world is the world and that isn't going to happen. Steam releases for all and everything would be ace, and I buy everything I can on it, but a monopoly, admittedly, is good for no one, and I don't mind reluctantly supporting some competition, even if it is produced by *shudder* EA.

I get that, I don't think origin or uplay is much to make steam worried about their market share. I support guys like GOG and greenmangaming, stuff that is drm free and isn't trying to make me apart of their own steam ripoff ecosystem. But I understand where you're coming from.

 

[ebullientprism]

If someone was sold out on origin and only used it, then that's cool. But for the people who use Steam for 99% of their games and then EA decides to start a competitor and launches a service and locks down the one good game they have (bf3) I would recommend that people give EA the finger and not support them. This would be telling them that we value an easy to use system, from a not evil company, with a single friends list, convenience, whatever, etc etc you get the point.

What exactly do you find harder to use in Origin than on Steam? Or more convenient? From the sounds of it you havent ever used it.

As far as "herpderp Evil EA" is concerned, fair enough. Its your money and you are free to not do business with any company who you find to be "evil", laughable as that idea is.

But thats still not really a good enough excuse to kill all competition and give monopoly to a single company in an environment whose biggest strength has always been its open nature.

The potential is there. In the future. As in, if we let EA do this, what to stop Activision from doing it? Then Square, Capcom, Warner Bros, Atlus, etc.

Nothing. And why shouldn't they? If they can offer better services and prices than Steam then go for it. If they cant then they will die out.

 

[Visualante2]

I'm kind of surprised it wont be on Steam though. I had assumed all Source games would have to be put on the service.

http://dear-esther.com/?page_id=789

I thought it was a license term for all Source games to be released through Steam, or is that just limited to Steamworks implementation?

Probably a case by case basis.

 

[Phaethon0017]

I guess I should have put 2 and 2 together. I dislike Origin but eh, probably won't end up keeping me from getting this.

 

[Grief.exe]

http://dear-esther.com/?page_id=789

Probably a case by case basis.

Dear Ester is an independently developed game. They are not tied to a publisher or client for any reason.
There is no contractual obligation to be on Steam due to the engine use. The Chinese Room chose to put Dear Esther on Steam due to the advantages provided by the Steamworks platform.

 

[maty]

I was slightly interested but I guess I'm not buying it then, not because it isn't available on Steam as I do buy from other store besides it, like GMG, Amazon and GOG, but their Latin America store is a joke.

According to them Argentina is located in Europe or it's still a spanish colony and we get charged in Euros. Fuck that shit.

 

[Des0lar]

Gaf being Gaf... o noes! Origin is pure evil, if it's not on Steam I'm not buying it.. Gabe is my only lord, etc.. never gets old.

Who are you even talking to? It's like you saw the thread title, and immediatly wrote your post without reading anything in this thread, to accuse all those pesky Steam fanboys you hate so much. Petty move if you ask me.

 

[idolminds]

The potential is there. In the future. As in, if we let EA do this, what to stop Activision from doing it? Then Square, Capcom, Warner Bros, Atlus, etc.

This is an inevitability. If a company is large enough to handle the distribution of its own products then why in the world would they want to give someone else a 30% cut of every sale?

What, only Valve gets the privilege of cutting out the middle man because they were first?

 

[CecilRousso]

Every publisher has their own steam?

Last time I checked only two have clients (steam and origin)

The uplay client is just a launcher. Desura focuses almost entirely on indie games and Impulse is dead in the water.

I checked the uplay client that I need for playing Far Cry 3 just the other day, and it was the same as Steam:

*Launcher
*Store
*Community features

 

[DangerDave]

What exactly do you find harder to use in Origin than on Steam? Or more convenient? From the sounds of it you havent ever used it.

As far as "herpderp Evil EA" is concerned, fair enough. Its your money and you are free to not do business with any company who you find to be "evil", laughable as that idea is.

But thats still not really a good enough excuse to kill all competition and give monopoly to a single company in an environment whose biggest strength has always been its open nature.

Nothing. And why shouldn't they? If they can offer better services and prices than Steam then go for it. If they cant then they will die out.

Herpderp, right its the hive mind right gotcha. I'm not talking about killing competition, amazon, gog, gmg, etc all sell games without drm, or via a redeemable steam code. You can have competition without another friendlist, in game overlay, and basically everything else that Steam already has.

Well, I guess they should, there seems to be at least a few people who would support multiple steam type clients if it offers a cheaper price and/or exclusivity.

 

[sirap]

Guess I won't be seeing Titanfall on my PC. Has a PS4 version been announced? Now way I'm paying Xbox live to play this.

 

[Proven]

Oh. I guess EA found a way for me to not play Titanfall.

Origin may one day be something great. Currently, it's not anywhere close to that.

Guess I won't be seeing Titanfall on my PC. Has a PS4 version been announced? Now way I'm paying Xbox live to play this.

Sony is charging for online on PS4, so you'd be shit out of luck then too.

 

[Hasney]

Does the Steam overlay work with Origin again yet? I know it did, then some Origin update came out and borked it. I'm constantly talking to people through Steam IM as I play, so without being able to use that, it would probably lower my desire for this game until it's cheap.

 

[ebullientprism]

Herpderp, right its the hive mind right gotcha. I'm not talking about killing competition, amazon, gog, gmg, etc all sell games without drm, or via a redeemable steam code.

So according to you its ok for competition to exist as long as they dont compete directly with a company you like? Not only that but they are still tied to their competitor and have to go through it to do business?

You realize that any company selling a Steam code is still basically redirecting their customer to a different store? Its like me saying its ok for other shops to exist as long as whatever they sell has to be picked up at a Best Buy store.

You can have competition without another friendlist, in game overlay, and basically everything else that Steam already has.

Well, I guess they should, there seems to be at least a few people who would support multiple steam type clients if it offers a cheaper price and/or exclusivity.

You are asking them to cut back on features so they cannot compete with Steam. If that happened you can bet you would be right here complaining that you dont wanna use Origin because it doesnt offer what Steam does.

 

[HK-47]

Which turned out to be completely bogus.

Seriously, its 2013.

Origin should be welcomed with open arms as a competitor to steam. It's not like anyone is stepping up to the plate.



Yes.

Least of all EA.