You're arguing that PC gamers have no right to argue PC-centric issues just because the game was 'allowed' to be put on their platform, that's still a shitty argument.
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Greenberg: Quantum Break is not coming to Steam
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You're arguing that PC gamers have no right to argue PC-centric issues just because the game was 'allowed' to be put on their platform, that's still a shitty argument.
GHG
Gold Member
This actually made me laugh out loud. Well done.
And as for Microsoft wanting the game to be profitable... They have made it pretty clear that they don't give a shit about whether the game is profitable or not. The number of sales they will lose from not also being on Steam is far greater than the revenue they gain from the added 30% of what they do manage to sell. The whole purpose of this is to drive people to Windows 10 and to get them interacting with the store. Unfortunately in this case Remedy and Quantum Break specifically is the sacrificial lamb.
UcchedavÄda
Member
Lara Croft GO.
IcyRhythms
Member
Did someone just insinuate that PC standards being biased toward the consumer is bad thing? WTF?
gaming_noob
Member
I think I'll still get the PC version.
What a load of horseshit.
Unfortunately, this thread's just the tip of the iceberg; I'm sure such posts will only become more frequent as MS continues to intertwine its two brands.
Wait, are you serious?
PC gaming, in its current form, which has been growing year over year and survived for decades after being pronounced dead, is unsustainable?
And what will save us is a new distribution mechanism which locks our PC down like consoles?
No, seriously, what?
I really, really doubt Spencer is anywhere near high up enough to change stuff about UWA's.
It's one of the pillars of MS's current strategy.
If it gets changed, that one of the best news for PC in general (not just gaming) in a long while.
Night Angel
Member
How?
Are you one of the people who has been disappointed by all of MS's 180s? I'm sure they wouldn't mind if you phoned them every time you wanted to play a game.
Doesn't say anything to me. It's on PC like I said.
Aceofspades
Banned
Isn't this expected though? I mean MS needs to build their own store on PC, why release games on rival's ecosystem?
I'll still be getting this on PC near launch, but I'm gonna wait for the first impression and technical threads for the PC version before jumping on it.
If it looks grim, then it's the Xbox One version for me!
Different times.
Microsoft have stepped away from deriving their income from a single point-of-purchase (Windows license) and moved towards an ecosystem where the initial OS revenue is just the beginning of monetization. They want you to use their services and upsell you Office 365, Groove and OneDrive e.g. Putting their games on the Windows Store is part of that vision.
They gave away Windows 10 as a free upgrade to maximize the adoption of the Windows Store and their services. There are over 200 million devices already running the OS, but in order for the Windows Store to succeed, they need content. It's a business decision, plain and simple.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Shhh no logic, only tales from your ass.
iNvid02
Member
people cried about origin and uplay, and they came to accept the fact that if they want to play certain games they're going to use those services.
i'm sure the same thing will happen here, provided the frankenfucked apps the windows store offers are changed, the amount of restrictions they impose on games are unacceptable
i'm sure the same thing will happen here, provided the frankenfucked apps the windows store offers are changed, the amount of restrictions they impose on games are unacceptable
This isn't a binary choice. It is a question of opportunity cost and how much I want to play a game is graded by other aspects beyond the game itself.
So much hostility between people...
It's terrible that it runs like an app, but I don't think there's anything to worry about losing the license in the future.
The locked app environment could be changed in the future, perhaps if they see enough people are dissatisfied with it, they will switch to the Apple system.
Edit: Or, better yet, partner with Steam to allow transfer of licenses (tie Microsoft account with the Steam one).
It's terrible that it runs like an app, but I don't think there's anything to worry about losing the license in the future.
The locked app environment could be changed in the future, perhaps if they see enough people are dissatisfied with it, they will switch to the Apple system.
Edit: Or, better yet, partner with Steam to allow transfer of licenses (tie Microsoft account with the Steam one).
Crimsonclaw111
Member
At least Origin and UPlay games run like regular ass PC games, regardless of the client.
By which I mean it's an exe that you can mess with and add to Steam or whatever.
By which I mean it's an exe that you can mess with and add to Steam or whatever.
drotahorror
Member
I would buy it if it was on Origin, I don't mind that service. Wouldn't touch uplay and won't touch the windows store.
Killer Instinct and Quantum Break are being sent to die on PC. Thanks MS. Call me ungrateful but the windows store sucks and does the app situation.
This is escalating quickly. It remembers me the Denuvo thread where people says developers need DRM solutions to eat.
I wonder if any of this people is actually interested in PC gaming.
Revolutionary
Member
That blows. I prefer fullscreen gaming for maximum performance.
Plus let's not forget that they left GFWL to hang and dry - people are unable to redeem their previous purchases as we speak.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=194886083
Plus let's not forget that they left GFWL to hang and dry - people are unable to redeem their previous purchases as we speak.
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=194886083
I'd like to think that a company looking to make the most profit it can would opt to put their game on the most popular (and quite convenient) PC-gaming store / community that is ~150 million gamers strong, rather than a separate Windows store that doesn't get nearly as much use by the type of gamer that would buy a demanding game like Quantum Break.
If they just released on Steam, the game would surely get more exposure and earn Microsoft a lot more money (even with paying a 30% cut to Valve) than their store that is already being looked at as GFWL 2.0.
I'd nice if maybe the two could come to a special arrangement, like Valve takes a smaller cut than usual in exchange for the game releasing on Steam.
Wow
Sony wouldn't be able to pull the stuff MS is doing with it's Win 10 store. People would happily buy Sony games on PC from a Sony store.
Feel free to elaborate on those single quotes.
Because Microsoft is in absolutely no way obligated to publish anything on PC. Hence the massive amounts of whining in regards to the topic for the past however many years. So they very much 'allowed' QB to be published on PC despite the other have of GAF claiming to no longer need to buy their hardware.
Let me know when their console competition jumps in and starts doing the same thing with AAA games, because until then, like with EA Access, you are getting something new to the consumer. Which by its very definition makes it a consumer friendly move. "Not consumer friendly enough" is an entitlement argument. Period.
Issue isn't where it is sold, but how it is sold and how a user interacts with the thing they bought.
And you can access it, but can't do anything with files, so it's not like it has use.
You can create shortcuts just by dragging to desktop anyway. (But Steam doesn't support these, not like it would matter since Steam wouldn't be able to inject it's overlay)
And so does Sony. Sure it's an exception, but still it's on Steam.
It's not true. It's been fixed.
Well, since it would be traditional Win32 and not vendor lock-in like Windows Store.
Wow, man, I can NOT wait to hear your reasoning behind this
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Well it's good you can use more than just the C drive at least.
What a huge load of bullshit. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
They are using the Apple system.
I'm not serious, wanted to troll like a MS fanboy, but the fact people took me seriously is a bit alarming.
freshVeggie
Member
I don't believe this to be true and you to know much of worth.
EDIT: played like a fiddle
roadrunn3r
Member
This thread is really going places in amazing new ways never seen before.
vasametropolis
Member
You are correct. I think the only argument here is really the limitations of the game. The store likely doesn't matter here because the odds of Microsoft shutting it down this time are laughably unlikely (but sure, if I'm proven wrong be sure to bring it up). They are not starting from zero with platform or services. Xbox services are mature as hell and will do just fine provided they don't get lazy, which I also don't see happening this time (but that's opinion)
The problems with Tomb Raider didn't help, so it's fair.
XANDER CAGE
Member
I think it's less to do with a sense of fanboyism and more to do with Microsoft showing that, again, they might not be as dedicated to catching up to the rest of the PC market as they claim to be. Steam absolutely has its problems, but it is the standard for PC stores, both in ubiquity and feature expectations. It's exasperating to see them doing this again.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I'm kind of worried about this as well
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