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Grenfell Tower residents urge visitors to stop taking selfies
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The Jackdog
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i feel like this kind of our behavior has always happened the only difference is people now put their faces in front of it too
ClosingADoor
Member
The hell is wrong with people. Use some common sense.
To add yourself in the photo - probably with a smile on your face - is a new level of disrespect though.
Photos, by themselves, can document any tone, but putting your face in front underlines it has a happy/vanity photo.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Horrible. Kinda reminds me of this. http://www.euronews.com/2017/01/19/yolocaust-a-satirist-s-challenge-to-holocaust-tourist-behaviour
PdotMichael
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frankie_baby
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I'm going on holiday to london in about 6 weeks, our hotel is about a mile from grenfell, might go visit but no way would i take a selfie
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
People get outraged on the internet, and probably also do the same exact behavior.
It's the new norm, get used to it. Do you really, actually, honestly give a shit if someone is taking a selfie anywhere? Does it actually take away from anyone that they do it?
They aren't harming anyone. I mean you see this stuff come up every so often and people outrage, but honestly.. why are you outraged? It's a photo.
It's the new norm, get used to it. Do you really, actually, honestly give a shit if someone is taking a selfie anywhere? Does it actually take away from anyone that they do it?
They aren't harming anyone. I mean you see this stuff come up every so often and people outrage, but honestly.. why are you outraged? It's a photo.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Seems a little dumb they included "#selfie" to the sign. You just know mindless selfie enthusiasts eyes are going to be drawn JUST TO that and they are going to say, "#selfie? Don't mind if I do!"
Though, a part of me is riddled with the mystery of the sign next to it, "I love Paindans"
Though, a part of me is riddled with the mystery of the sign next to it, "I love Paindans"
We've found a selfie addict.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
Selfies are the worst. Even in genuine tourist places it's like "Hey, here's a picture of the Taj Mahal... that you can't see because my stupid, weirdly shaped head and gurning face are in the way. Love me as much as I love me.".
I definitely agree with the sentiment: bereavement tourism is really hurtful to the people in the background of your photo.
I'm a little more hesitant about the 9/11 Memorial example. September 11 ushered in a tempest of feelings, sure, but at the end of the day, the memorial plaza is a public place. People will act as they do on public and should generally be encouraged to. Because if they don't, then the area will never get stitched back into the urban quilt. It almost defeats the purpose of the reconstruction project if we build a cemetery and wander through like zombies. Manhattan is for the living, not the dead. One day (definitely not today when the feelings are so raw and the fallen are still left in place), Grenfell will just be for living again too, and that transition should be celebrated when it does eventually happen.
I'm a little more hesitant about the 9/11 Memorial example. September 11 ushered in a tempest of feelings, sure, but at the end of the day, the memorial plaza is a public place. People will act as they do on public and should generally be encouraged to. Because if they don't, then the area will never get stitched back into the urban quilt. It almost defeats the purpose of the reconstruction project if we build a cemetery and wander through like zombies. Manhattan is for the living, not the dead. One day (definitely not today when the feelings are so raw and the fallen are still left in place), Grenfell will just be for living again too, and that transition should be celebrated when it does eventually happen.
It's Poindoins IDIOT
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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It's not the photo that's the problem, but the outright refusal to show any decorum or respect for the locals affected by a tragedy.
Skellig Gra
Member
Too soon. Completely tasteless people.
It does bring up a good discussion point. At what point IS tourism acceptable for things like this? At some point we become detached from a tragedy and just recognize it as a historic event. There was a big discussion about this when the 9/11 memorial opened and there was a gift shop.
Selfies are fine if done correctly. If you are somewhere by yourself are you really going to hand a stranger your phone? What you are describing is just a bad picture, there are plenty of awesome selfies that capture the cool thing in the background in its entirety.
It does bring up a good discussion point. At what point IS tourism acceptable for things like this? At some point we become detached from a tragedy and just recognize it as a historic event. There was a big discussion about this when the 9/11 memorial opened and there was a gift shop.
Selfies are fine if done correctly. If you are somewhere by yourself are you really going to hand a stranger your phone? What you are describing is just a bad picture, there are plenty of awesome selfies that capture the cool thing in the background in its entirety.
Gonna go to your loved one's funeral and take a smiling selfie in front of their casket, with bonus points if you're crying in the background.
Get with the times mang!
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
How have you not heard of Paindans? Multicoloured beams of light that put a smile on anyones face
It's "Rainbows", but the b is backwards and part of the R is missing(?)
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As I recall, there was a story about that particular girl. Her Father had recently died and they had always talked about visiting the memorial but never got a chance to before he died. She was happy at that moment because she made it there. It was a happy moment for her, it wasn't just her being a selfish prick.
But that said, people do take selfies like that, obviously, I just think it's unfair to group her in there with them. Though it probably didn't help her case by texting it as a selfie without context I'll grant you.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
It's not something that should or even can be explained. If you don't understand why people are annoyed or angry that others are taking selfies in front of a building that burned down and killed dozens of people, you're, well, dumb.
SoundofSilence
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Gravy Boat
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The worst thing is when you go to Auschwitz, before the tour even begins, they remind people that this is a place with a pretty grim history and they ask people specifically to not take selfies out of respect.
Of course it never works. When I went there was a guy who took a selfie with his bloody selfie stick every 6 seconds.
God I really, really hate selfie culture.
Fucking hell. Its likely there are still bodies in the building.
ReplacementPelican
Member
Its disrespectful. Its treating their lives and situations as though it were a zoo. Not only that but by the nature of a 'selfie' you're imposing yourself on the image of a tragedy that you just walk away from and give no care to.
Also, its relatively trite to use the word 'outrage' to describe situations such as this. It also gives the wrong connotation to this. People are not 'outraged', the residents are unhappy with their tragedy being treated like a photo op.
If you honestly don't see that then fair enough but don't use the implication of 'outage culture' when people who have been horribly affected by something are asking you to stop being dicks.
SoundofSilence
Member
That would be the understatement of the last 2000 years.
Yep, this came to mind. People will always bet at heart with being selfish idiots. We must try to over come our own dumbness.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
It's just totally tone deaf and not appropriate when many of the charred bodies are still in the damn building.
It's rainbows, kids often inadvertently flip their letter B and D. Mine do anyway.
Eh, I mean I think it's shallow, but it comes from a good place with no ill intent. These people taking selfies are actually being considerably selfish and may actually affect the families of those that died if they are seen doing it, causing the families more anger and grief. It's a big difference.
Skellig Gra
Member
Man and I thought I was cynical. It's just a nice gesture. Sure some people may be deluded enough to think they are making a difference but I doubt its the majority.
Is it really people being idiots or people being rewarded by likes?
If those people got a backlash on social media by their friends/followers then they would stop. As of now though it is culturally supported in some circles.
Behind every dumb behavior is a community ready to reinforce it.
oh and they are idiots
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
This is a really old article but still worth a read:
https://psmag.com/environment/members-save-darfur-cause-facebook-75970
Darklor01
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A smiley face? Seriously?
Reminds me of
People really need to stop and think about what they are doing. Taking a picture of just the 9/11 memorial in NY City for example if you are sharing how beautiful a memorial it is and making mention of the horrible tragedy is one thing. Taking an selfie with you at the scene of tragedy is just ... well.. you have no respect or you are celebrating it as a victory for your cause IMO.
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