I see,I say "nor cast your pearls before swine" Matthew 7:6.
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GTA V GameInformer Discussion (11/8, 12PM EST)
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I see,I say "nor cast your pearls before swine" Matthew 7:6.
astroturfing
Member
my mom and dad are in their 60s and understand nothing about videogames.. to them videogames are just worthless toys, a complete waste of time. i'm sure you all know the deal...
last year i showed them that video of RDR and my mom's jaw literally dropped. she could not believe that is actually a videogame. i explained to her that it took hundreds of people years and years of hard work to craft that virtual world and described all of the little details like dynamic weather and animal life etc, she just kept saying "wow, i had no idea"... my dad was equally in disbelief, just shaking his head in a "are you kidding me?" manner, heh.
Net_Wrecker
Member
*Clicks thread for GTAV hype and info*
*Sees people crapping on RDR and the wild west*
You guize...
*Sees people crapping on RDR and the wild west*
You guize...
Like Chinner said it didn't translate well to a game at all. A game is supposed to be fun and provide you with many fun things to do, but making a true wild west game by nature doesn't provide many chances at that since it was mostly desert with a few very small towns. Herding cattle, taming wild horses and hunting animals is not fun, nor is playing horseshoes.
Graphics Horse
Member
Horseshoes was shit, I'll give you that. What was the point in having to line up your shot? You always wanted to aim at the peg anyway.
astroturfing
Member
yes it was.
the shooting action was pretty fun too thanks to Dead Eye, even though i usually find shooters boring.
what exactly was missing from the game, "fun"-wise?
Chû Totoro
Member
Is it worth it to subscribe to Game Informer or should I buy this issue and go for EGM... or stay on forums / websites only. I really miss having a magazine to read each month but I want something quality since every news is on Internet as soon as it's written on every article.
Anything I should go for?
Anything I should go for?
Why would you do that?
Member
I liked RDR as a linear game, i.e. doing the missions. It was very well-made and fun, but the open-world, sandbox aspect was horrible IMO. Not much fun to do at all.
While I do think it's a great game in general, it was just very disappointing in that regard.
While I do think it's a great game in general, it was just very disappointing in that regard.
I had fun with those activities, the missions were kind of a drag though (well, most of them, anyway).
I wish there was more to do with the bounty system, like organizing a posse, play the outlaw or the sheriff and this kind of things.
To do that they should've lay off the story a bit, though.
Jeff Albertson
Member
It's weird but as an open world game Rdr stands way above all others for me I loved the world and just riding around hunting etc, I think it's the only sandbox game I ever got to 100% completion
Anyway can't wait for this I found GTA IV drab but think this will fix everything that made the last one boring
I can't wait to play as the guy in the middle he looks badass
Anyway can't wait for this I found GTA IV drab but think this will fix everything that made the last one boring
I can't wait to play as the guy in the middle he looks badass
nah dawg. not till about 3 central, maybe 2 now.
that's pretty but that doesn't really mean its fun does it?
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NinjaFridge
Unconfirmed Member
It takes time to hire a new team after so many of the old one quit.
Atmosphere has replaced fun these last few year it seems.
Raven77
Member
Thanks for your opinion. I completely disagree.
For me, rdr was a welcome change of pace and tone in a sea of Gears of War and COD clones. Hunting animals WAS fun, as was taming wild horses. But again, opinions on both sides.
Misterinenja
Member
God I'm hyped. Playing through San Andreas for the first time now actually. Tempted to make a LTTP thread soon...
bitoriginal
Member
Seriously Derrick. I can read your shit most of the time but talking crap about Read Dead like this is too much. I can understand constructive criticism, but you're moaning about lack of fun in the open world? It's probably the best sandbox we've had this gen, which had tons of dynamic events, challenges, animals to hunt, ways to interact with the environment and various other things to do. You must be talking about some magic perfect game that doesn't exist here because we quite simply haven't had any better than RDR.
Why are you comparing RDR to linear shooters and not the sea of other open world games? I guess because if you did you'd realize it has the least amount of content for open world games.
bitoriginal said:
Eh it had about 20-30 unique "events", if you call chasing a burglar down an event I guess. But those 20-30 were repeated hundreds of times throughout the game.
Where is all of this unique sandbox content you people are finding in a game that doesn't have it?
I wish I was you right now. Played through it again last month and loved it.
maquiladora
Member
wot
Hmm...crazy theory?
That would be flat out amazing. Oh my.
If you take Just Cause 2, for example (or Red Faction Guerrilla) there wasn't exatly a sea of side activities.
I think the worst part of RDR for me were the missions (that were too many and too similar) and getting from point A to B with the horse became predictable and boring in the second half of the game.
SniperHunter
Banned
I agree with Chinner and Derrick, RDR was simply the most boring open world games I have ever played, the auto lock on combat didn't help either.
I figured they'd probably want to go with multiple protagonists after trying it out with the GTA IV expansions. I'm definitely cool with that.
Speaking of the GTA IV expansions, I had a tough time really getting into it, but this GTA news is making me want to give it another shot.
Speaking of the GTA IV expansions, I had a tough time really getting into it, but this GTA news is making me want to give it another shot.
Muffdraul
Member
I've always dreaded the "GTA V = multi protags" thing since it was first rumored, way before the game was even officially announced. I'll try to take an "If anyone can pull it off it's Rockstar" wait-and-see approach.
But if the story plays out via playing as one guy for a few missions, then the next guy for a while, then the next guy etc., then MEH.
But if the story plays out via playing as one guy for a few missions, then the next guy for a while, then the next guy etc., then MEH.
You can get 100% in 30 hours, less if the hunting challenges weren't entirely based around luck and whether those fucks wanted to spawn or not.
I should partially take back what I said though. Sleeping Dogs had less content, that only took me ~22 hours to 100%.
Graphics Horse
Member
bitoriginal
Member
Out of interest, did you bother going for 100% completion? Read Dead had a crazy amount of stuff to do that was actually fun and had great rewards like new outfits. It's one of the three games I've bothered 100%ing this gen because it was actually fun to do.
What are you even comparing it to anyway? What is a good sandbox to you?
Raven77
Member
Are you really saying RDR id just like every other open world game? Also, their are actually NOT a sea of open world games like GTA and RDR, that's a fact. Please don't try and paint the assassins creed or darksiders games as open world, they aren't. Darksiders 2 could mayyyybe be considered one.
I'm sure you'll reply with 6 or 7 open world games from this gen. In a pre-response, their are ten times more generic fps and gears clones.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Yeah, the little time wasting tangential stuff in most open world games frequently turns me off, but I'm glad it's there for people who really get into it and it shows a certain commitment to details. Most of them are like city garbage collection, I'm glad it's there, I'm glad it happens, it's irritating if it stops working properly, but it's not something I'd care to do or think about if I don't need to. I usually find one or two I really enjoy and ignore the rest. In RDR for me, that was doing Bounties and horse wrangling.
I do think however that the period could have translated well. The game takes place right before WWI, there was a lot of material they could have worked with. They wanted to tell a small story though, and in the confines of what was then a culture on the way out, and thrown in Hollywood Western flavor. I hadn't really thought of the game as a missed opportunity before, but I guess I've always just thought the game worked better as a Leone homage more than a historical sandbox.
Oddly enough, I enjoyed Sleeping Dogs more.
That would be lame, imo.
I don't want to be stuck with a character until i play the next mission.
shinobi602
Member
Wat...I loved those parts >__>
Heart of Black
Member
I don't really like open world games.. I always get distracted. But I 100%ed RDR at home after working on it for 2 years. I finished GTA IV, but stopped at the credits... so yeah.
Love the cover. Rockstar always has some of the best artwork out there. I wanted a job there primarily because of GTA III/Vice City's art & the Rockstar Logo. Bully sealed the deal.
I wonder which of my old coworkers put these together.
Love the cover. Rockstar always has some of the best artwork out there. I wanted a job there primarily because of GTA III/Vice City's art & the Rockstar Logo. Bully sealed the deal.
I wonder which of my old coworkers put these together.
Assassin's Creed IS a sandbox game, why shouldn't it be?
Yes read my last post. It's an incredibly easy and fast 100% outside of hunting challenges. GTA 4's campaign alone took me more time to finish than 100% of RDR and I'm not including the time it would take to get 100% in the GTA game that had the lowest amount of things to do.
Ravem77 said:
How is assassin's creed NOT sandbox? Was I imagining running through that massive frontier to Boston or New York the other day?
SniperHunter
Banned
disabling it wouldn't have helped as most of the missions were completely boring too. The only awesome mission I remember is, the train robbery one
Me_Marcadet
Member
I came to this thread to read discussions about new Infos on gta V but it seems I'm in a RDR lttp thread.
Could we go back on tracks please?
All we know for now is that the game stars three protagonists and the countryside will be huge?
Edit: oh the mag didn't release yet, please ignore my comment.
Could we go back on tracks please?
All we know for now is that the game stars three protagonists and the countryside will be huge?
Edit: oh the mag didn't release yet, please ignore my comment.
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NinjaFridge
Unconfirmed Member
Because then it wouldn't fit his argument.
MMaRsu
Banned
Raven77
Member
I wasn't referring to ass creed 3, sorry. Was referring more to the first and second.
Regardless of my bad example, the arguement is still sound. Its ludacris to say the open world genre is as flooded as the fps genre...
I guess if you can't enjoy herding cattle and stuff like that, you can't enjoy RDR.
I find it weird that people try to narrow down the definition of "fun" though, saying there wasn't enough fun stuff to do-- it's very much a subjective thing what people enjoy and have fun with.