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[Roni]

In 2013, GTAV had an interactive torture scene. It's now 2025 and GTAVI is about a couple; do you think Rockstar could get away with slipping an interactive sex scene into VI?

I personally can't see how sex is worse than torture, so I don't see why they couldn't try something like that for the media push alone.

Of course, having sex as a gameplay mechanic is not exactly new to GTA for those who were around during the San Andreas days, but it's been a minute since then.

What you say?

 

[Germuso]

Press F to fuck

 

[Guilty_AI]

Then by the end of the scene they'll grade your performance

 

[Aressa]

Nah gaming is weird. Violence is fine but show a bit of sex and it's suddenly "too far".

 

[Roni]

Then by the end of the scene they'll grade your performance

I mean, if it's interactive...

 

[DAHGAMING]

Smash them left and right triggers to part them cheeks

 

[DevilHunterX0]

Hot Coffee?

 

[Guilty_AI]

I mean, if it's interactive...

Lucia: "i'll give you a C grade, it was pretty ok"

 

[Roni]

Hot Coffee?

Yeah, but back in the day that was excised right quick after it was discovered. And it wasn't even in the game per se if memory holds.

 

[The_hunter]

Imagine the duelsense haptic feedback.

 

[Dutchy]

I hope not. The implication of sex in games is fine but having to actively participate in it would be an instant-skip for me

A lot of that has to do with the fact that I'm already drowning in women irl, obviously

 

[Guilty_AI]

Imagine the duelsense haptic feedback.

foreplay then will use the dualsense's touchpad

 

[Kikorin]

Nothing more cringe than sex in vg, so let's hope Rockstar will save us from this torture.

 

[Danjin44]

Why would I want that? I like sexy design my characters but I never liked actual sex in video games, they always looked awkward and cringy.

 

[Baemono]

 

[Roni]

foreplay then will use the dualsense's touchpad

Kojima-level game design

 

[Sticks]

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

No. People (politicians) would still flip the fuck out, especially if it was detailed and kinky sex.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Depends on how much detail they add.

 

[DevilHunterX0]

Yeah, but back in the day that was excised right quick after it was discovered. And it wasn't even in the game per se if memory holds.

Rockstar left the unfinished "Hot Coffee" code buried in GTA: San Andreas, never meant to be played. But when PC modders unlocked it, outrage brewed fast.
Senator Hillary Clinton called for a federal investigation, Joe Lieberman and Sam Brownback joined the moral crusade, and the ESRB scrambled to re-rate the game Adults Only. Meanwhile, the media went into hysterics, and parents who'd happily bought an M-rated crime simulator for their teenagers suddenly discovered ethics.

 

[spookyfish]

Press F to fuck

Annnnnnd we're done here.

 

[Roni]

Depends on how much detail they add.

If it makes it in the game, I expect vanilla stuff really.

 

[Embearded]

They can add whatever they want as long as it has the appropriate rating.
Adults don't need protection and kids have parents + stores shouldn't give it to them.

 

[jshackles]

 

[RedC]

They can add whatever they want as long as it has the appropriate rating.
Adults don't need protection and kids have parents + stores shouldn't give it to them.

No console allows AO-rated games.

 

[salva]

 

[ReBurn]

Is that what the people are asking for?

 

[Hero_Select]

No AAA game wants an "AO" Rating

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

No console allows AO-rated games.

which is just another piece of weird moralistic grandstanding turned to policy; PEGI 18 is pretty much identical in its rating description yet games are published on console with that rating just fine.

 

[Roni]

No AAA game wants an "AO" Rating

It baffles me that a game with an interactive torture scene doesn't get an AO rating...

 

[BennyBlanco]

San Andreas had it and they had to cut it.

 

[pacman4000]

Nah gaming is weird. Violence is fine but show a bit of sex and it's suddenly "too far".

USA is weird.

 

[Mr Hyde]

After playing Heavy Rain I don't want to see another interactive sex scene ever again. Pure cringe.

 

[Dr. Suchong]

Anal or gtfo.

 

[RedC]

which is just another piece of weird moralistic grandstanding turned to policy; PEGI 18 is pretty much identical in its rating description yet games are published on console with that rating just fine.

Well, I'm using the ESRB (North American) rating system, y'know, the one that really matters.

The farthest any publisher will go is an M rating.

Mature (M) — Ages 17 and Up

General Meaning

Games with an M rating are intended for players aged 17 and older. They often contain intense or realistic depictions of violence, strong language, and mature themes that are not suitable for children or early teens.

Typical Content

• Violence: Intense combat, blood and gore, realistic injuries, dismemberment, or death scenes.
  (Example: realistic military shooters or action titles)
• Language: Frequent use of strong profanity (e.g., F-words), as well as racial or sexual slurs in some cases.
• Sexual Content: Suggestive themes or partial nudity — but not explicit sexual acts.
• Substance Use: Depictions or references to drugs, alcohol, and tobacco use.
• Themes: May include crime, moral ambiguity, dark psychological elements, or complex adult narratives.

Examples of M-rated Games

• Call of Duty (violence, strong language)
• The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (sexual themes, alcohol use)
• Grand Theft Auto V (intense violence, sexual content, drugs)
• Resident Evil 4 Remake (graphic violence, gore)

Distribution and Retail Notes

• Sold freely to adults.
• Retailers (like GameStop, Walmart, etc.) often check ID and refuse sales to minors under 17.
• Accepted by all major console and digital storefronts (PlayStation, Xbox, Steam, etc.).

Where it can be distributed is the most important for publishers.

However, the reason an AO rating is dreaded and has every incentive for a publisher to make certain their games aren't given the rating is:

Adults Only (AO) — Ages 18 and Up

General Meaning

Games rated AO are restricted to adults (18+) due to explicit content that goes beyond what is acceptable for M-rated titles. These games are very rare and often not sold in mainstream retail or console platforms.

Typical Content

• Sexual Content: Explicit, graphic sexual acts, full nudity, or pornographic scenes.
• Extreme Violence: Sadistic or realistic depictions of torture, mutilation, or sexual violence.
• Gambling: Real-money gambling simulations.
• Other Mature Themes: May include extreme drug use or criminal acts with no moral framing.

Examples of AO-rated Games

• Manhunt 2 (original version, for extreme violence — later censored to earn an M rating)
• Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude (Uncut) (sexual content)
• Hatred (mass violence and gore)
• Playboy: The Mansion – Private Party (sexual content)

Distribution and Retail Notes

• Almost never sold in stores — major retailers won't stock AO games.
• Console manufacturers (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) generally ban AO titles from their platforms.
• AO games are typically available only on PC and via direct download from developers or niche distributors.
• ESRB assigns AO sparingly; fewer than 1% of all rated games ever receive this rating.

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

What does get away with mean? Like are they going to get arrested? It's not 1995.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Just buy an adult game, OP.

 

[Roni]

Well, I'm using the ESRB (North American) rating system, y'know, the one that really matters.

The farthest any publisher will go is an M rating.

Mature (M) — Ages 17 and Up

General Meaning

Games with an M rating are intended for players aged 17 and older. They often contain intense or realistic depictions of violence, strong language, and mature themes that are not suitable for children or early teens.

Typical Content

• Violence: Intense combat, blood and gore, realistic injuries, dismemberment, or death scenes.
  (Example: realistic military shooters or action titles)
• Language: Frequent use of strong profanity (e.g., F-words), as well as racial or sexual slurs in some cases.
• Sexual Content: Suggestive themes or partial nudity — but not explicit sexual acts.
• Substance Use: Depictions or references to drugs, alcohol, and tobacco use.
• Themes: May include crime, moral ambiguity, dark psychological elements, or complex adult narratives.

Examples of M-rated Games

• Call of Duty (violence, strong language)
• The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (sexual themes, alcohol use)
• Grand Theft Auto V (intense violence, sexual content, drugs)
• Resident Evil 4 Remake (graphic violence, gore)

Distribution and Retail Notes

• Sold freely to adults.
• Retailers (like GameStop, Walmart, etc.) often check ID and refuse sales to minors under 17.
• Accepted by all major console and digital storefronts (PlayStation, Xbox, Steam, etc.).

Where it can be distributed is the most important for publishers.

However, the reason an AO rating is dreaded and has every incentive for a publisher to make certain their games aren't given the rating is:

Adults Only (AO) — Ages 18 and Up

General Meaning

Games rated AO are restricted to adults (18+) due to explicit content that goes beyond what is acceptable for M-rated titles. These games are very rare and often not sold in mainstream retail or console platforms.

Typical Content

• Sexual Content: Explicit, graphic sexual acts, full nudity, or pornographic scenes.
• Extreme Violence: Sadistic or realistic depictions of torture, mutilation, or sexual violence.
• Gambling: Real-money gambling simulations.
• Other Mature Themes: May include extreme drug use or criminal acts with no moral framing.

Examples of AO-rated Games

• Manhunt 2 (original version, for extreme violence — later censored to earn an M rating)
• Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude (Uncut) (sexual content)
• Hatred (mass violence and gore)
• Playboy: The Mansion – Private Party (sexual content)

Distribution and Retail Notes

• Almost never sold in stores — major retailers won't stock AO games.
• Console manufacturers (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) generally ban AO titles from their platforms.
• AO games are typically available only on PC and via direct download from developers or niche distributors.
• ESRB assigns AO sparingly; fewer than 1% of all rated games ever receive this rating.

GTA V fits the AO description for realistic depictions of torture but didn't get the AO rating. Which is kind of my point with this thread: if anyone has the pull to shut ESRB down and force a game with a graphic sexual act to get the M rating, it's Rockstar. They've literally done it before with V.

What does get away with mean? Like are they going to get arrested? It's not 1995.

The above is what I mean by getting away it it.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Well, I'm using the ESRB (North American) rating system

I know you are, I'm saying that system is based on moralistic puritan virtue signaling, turned into self-imposed policy, stemming from the release of mortal kombat and makes no sense because PEGI 18 is the same thing

 

[A.Romero]

God or war got away with it a long time ago as well as heavy rain although I think the later wasn't interactive, can't remember.

But sure, I don't see why not. I don't think anyone expects any kind of restrain from GTA.

 

[Loomy]

What kind of interactivity are you looking for, Roni ?

 

[amigastar]

Anyone remember SeXBox?
I think it was Mass Effect if i'm not wrong.

 

[E-Cat]

Imagine the duelsense haptic feedback.

Of course, it only works as intended when correctly placed in the anus

 

[DavidGzz]

Sex would be dumb. It doesn't add anything. I guess from a father's perspective, there just isn't any need for it. We all know we played violent games as kids, but do we really need porn in video games for teens to play? I think it's dumb in TV shows too. Unnecessary. You can claim it should have an adult only rating, but there is no way Rockstar would do that. It would cut into their sales too much.

There are plenty of games on Steam for the coomers.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Explicit sex is very rarely justified for narrative reasons. In the old GOW it made sense as a way to depict the brutality of that era. In modern day it's just cringe unless the act is necessary for character development.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

In 2013, GTAV had an interactive torture scene. It's now 2025 and GTAVI is about a couple; do you think Rockstar could get away with slipping an interactive sex scene into VI?

I personally can't see how sex is worse than torture, so I don't see why they couldn't try something like that for the media push alone.

Of course, having sex as a gameplay mechanic is not exactly new to GTA for those who were around during the San Andreas days, but it's been a minute since then.

What you say?

Sex and nudity is taboo in the west. People would lose their minds if it's too visual and detailed. Westerners are still puritans despite how irreligious they are, even the atheists are puritans in America.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Is that what the people are asking for?

Horny kids, the exact kind of people who shouldn't have access to it. So what's the point?

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

Explicit sex is very rarely justified for narrative reasons. In the old GOW it made sense as a way to depict the brutality of that era. In modern day it's just cringe unless the act is necessary for character development.

Because sex is taboo. It's one of the most natural things in the world, it's healthy and heavily encouraged by nature (it's the best feeling natural behavior humans can engage in). But in judeo-christian cultures like the West (America, Canada, Australia , Europe) it is seen as sinful, except under a few specific conditions and even then it has to be hidden away and actively avoided in discussion, that's because these religions associate purity and righteousness with chastity.

Many other human cultures don't have this view (consider most of humanity living in temperate areas spent the majority of their time nude, this is natural), hell Japan prior to western intervention didn't have a lot of the puritan beliefs they have now around nudity and sex. It's one of those topics where you have to think outside the box to get a clearer picture.

 

[ReyBrujo]

Sex and nudity is taboo in the west.

Also in the east if you consider they censor pubic hair.

 

[DevilHunterX0]

The best use case QTE button presses in history of video games.