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Guitar Hero: World Tour Platform Official Thread

Belgand said:
Not to mention: what are you doing up at 5 AM? I mean, I know I'm up, of course I'd be up. But shouldn't you be asleep like the normal people in our time zone?

I'm supposedly reviewing a file before I meet a client on Tuesday, but instead I'm finding ten different ways to distract myself, including this thread, a movie, and a recent issue of the Economist.
 
I'm guessing we wouldn't get away with "Rock N' Roll Motherfucker, Do You SPEAK IT? The Official GUITAR HERO: WORLD TOUR PLATFORM Thread"?

Gotta' think of a new title kids, or Rock Band wins! /o\

Must be some Meat Loaf lyrics we can use.
Speaking of which, where is Meat Loaf in all of this >_>
 
xbhaskarx said:
I'm supposedly reviewing a file before I meet a client on Tuesday, but instead I'm finding ten different ways to distract myself, including this thread, a movie, and a recent issue of the Economist.

Reading the Economist makes you a decidedly better person. After spending my high school years in debate I'm amazed that people can tolerate the terrible quality of most American news magazines. Now if only I could actually afford the subscription price.

Johnkers said:
Can't we go back to Belgand's topic? He sure might have some terrible opinions but he made a fine rumour topic!

Thank you.

My opinions, however, are perfect. You are lucky to be able to have them expressed so vehemently in your vague directions.

I will also never, ever support something terrible. That is for Costanza to do. At best I think you could say that I tend to be pickier and a bit more critical than some others here. I don't, however, call crap great.
 
xbhaskarx said:
You could be a little more enthusiastic about having just watched one of the greatest cinematic achievements of our generation...

I think I'll enjoy it more the second time. Which will be happening soon.

Johnkers said:
Can't we go back to Belgand's topic? He sure might have some terrible opinions but he made a fine rumour topic!

Belgand's opinions are always delivered in such a way that I feel if I disagree I'm probably incorrect. Except for the Cherub Rock BRE thing.
 
Belgand said:
Reading the Economist makes you a decidedly better person. After spending my high school years in debate I'm amazed that people can tolerate the terrible quality of most American news magazines.

Dude, WTF. Seriously, are you stalking me or making fun of me or something?
Do we know each other?
 
TheGreatDave said:
I think I'll enjoy it more the second time. Which will be happening soon.

It definitely gets better with repeated viewings.
I would also recommend watching it with subtitles at least once.
 
TheGreatDave said:
Lets remove "Official". I've never understood that shit.

But by removing "Official" gaf will run riot and make several other threads for GHWT then we will ALL BE D00MED! o_O

And Platform is stupid as well, 'World Tour' isn't a platform because the next game wont be called World Tour.

"I Don't Remember If It Was a Telecaster or a Stratocaster: The Guitar Hero IV Thread"

I don't like calling it World Tour, roman numerals are epic.
 
TheGreatDave said:
Belgand's opinions are always delivered in such a way that I feel if I disagree I'm probably incorrect. Except for the Cherub Rock BRE thing.

This, Dave, is because it is my opinion that (aside from the bit about Avril, Paramore, and Katy Perry... but those are merely youthful indiscretions liking rubbing linseed oil into the school cormorant) you are correct.

xbhaskarx said:
Dude, WTF. Seriously, are you stalking me or making fun of me or something?
Do we know each other?

Not even remotely. I lived in Kansas until 2006. We are simply the sort of people who have lived our lives correctly. I am currently endeavoring to be certain that everything I do is done... to the MAX!

Nevertheless we probably ought to get together at some point.
 
Woffls said:
But by removing "Official" gaf will run riot and make several other threads for GHWT then we will ALL BE D00MED! o_O

And Platform is stupid as well, 'World Tour' isn't a platform because the next game wont be called World Tour.

"I Don't Remember If It Was a Telecaster or a Stratocaster: The Guitar Hero IV Thread"

I don't like calling it World Tour, roman numerals are epic.

The next game probably will be called World Tour. You know...excluding the half dozen spinoff games. Platform kinda!
 
I wish they would just drop the sub titles for roman numerals.

Just picture it....

=======
Guitar Hero
===V===

Van Halen reference intentional :P

Also, wtf is with the spin off hate i get everywhere. Why are people complaining about more choice?
 
Woffls said:
I wish they would just drop the sub titles for roman numerals.

Just picture it....

=======
Guitar Hero
===V===

Van Halen reference intentional :P

Also, wtf is with the spin off hate i get everywhere. Why are people complaining about more choice?

If this includes Guitar Hero: 1984 then I'm down with it. At least, as long as that means it includes Zen Arcade and Sports (technically 1983, but it was in October and that's pretty close) I will give it my tentative blessing.
 
Belgand said:
My opinions, however, are perfect. You are lucky to be able to have them expressed so vehemently in your vague directions.

Music, movies and games. All that jazz is one thing, total opinion where right/wrong is an impossible measure.

But I'm ready to bring back pizza discussion again!
 
Belgand said:
Not even remotely. I lived in Kansas until 2006. We are simply the sort of people who have lived our lives correctly. I am currently endeavoring to be certain that everything I do is done... to the MAX!

Dude, TOO MANY coincidences...
-never been interested in drinking
-got into punk in high school
-became "straight edge"
-make fun of nu-metal in the RB thread
-the whole Coen brothers discussion in the RB thread
-you're in molecular/genetic biology, my mom is a prof in that field
-you currently live in the SF area, i lived there for many years
-you live a block from the Daly City BART station, is that right? i used to live right near the intersection of san diego and hillcrest for a few years
-i love the Economist so much i even have a quote about it in my IM profile
-we both did high school debate! (policy? L-D?)
-and apparently we were even born in the same freaking month...
 
Johnkers said:
Music, movies and games. All that jazz is one thing, total opinion where right/wrong is an impossible measure.

But I'm ready to bring back pizza discussion again!

No.

The correct and acceptable possible toppings for a hamburger are as follows: cheese, bacon, ham, pineapple, avocado, ketchup, barbecue sauce, lettuce, pickle, In 'n Out spread.

Incorrect toppings: tomato, raw onion, mushrooms, beetroot (fuck you Australia), swiss cheese, blue cheese, mustard, mayonaise, Big Mac secret sauce, anything done because Jimmy Buffett told you to do it (including things unrelated to hamburgers).

If you are eating a hamburger without cheese and there is no mitigating factor for this you ought to feel ashamed.

Buffalo burgers are a great idea. Anything else is probably an abomination.

85/15 meat is probably the ideal. Don't go over 80/20 ever. Ground chuck, maybe a bit of ground round in there. Don't you fucking try to pass off that dry extra-lean 95/5 crap on anyone. You people ought to be beaten. Why in the fuck is it so hard to find decent ground beef in this town? Are people fucking idiots who think that dry meat is edible?

Pre-made patties are also an abomination.

Gas grills likewise.

If you're trying to microwave a hamburger from raw there are some large men outside who wish to have a conversation with you. This conversation will consist entirely of them hurting you until you can never do that again.

French fries are better when curly and curly fries are ideall
y seasoned, but are still demonstrably better even if plain. Chili fries are great and ought to be rewarded in some fashion. Garlic fries are a great idea that frequently have a terrible execution that means I have a pile of soggy fries sitting in a puddle of vaguely garlickly oil that is rapidly spreading everywhere else, but is failing to flavor the fries at all.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Dude, TOO MANY coincidences...
-never been interested in drinking
-got into punk in high school
-became "straight edge"
-make fun of nu-metal in the RB thread
-the whole Coen brothers discussion in the RB thread
-you're in molecular/genetic biology, my mom is a prof in that field
-you currently live in the SF area, i lived there for many years
-you live a block from the Daly City BART station, is that right? i used to live right near the intersection of san diego and hillcrest for a few years
-i love the Economist so much i even have a quote about it in my IM profile
-we both did high school debate! (policy? L-D?)
-and apparently we were even born in the same freaking month...

This is odd.

Yeah, I live on St. Charles Ave. I'm still within city limits. :D Where'd you move to now? I thought you were still local.

Policy debate. China was the best topic. Russia was less so. Domestic topics were rarely as good as foreign topics, but I oddly never got into extemp. Because of the way East Kansas NFL is structured debate was in the fall and forensics was in the spring so we got to do both. I did student congress. Since it was always held on Fridays at the same time as L-D it also meant I got to sleep on Saturdays instead of doing individual events. This is best way. L-D is not proper debate. I have basic issues with the concept of competitive debate based on moral and ethical issues.

Back in '95 my freshman debate squad was actually pretty heavily into ska and it's a big part of how I got introduced to it. I remember some little awards thing held at the school and most of the squad didn't show up because Skankin' Pickle was in town that night.
 
Belgand said:
No.

The correct and acceptable possible toppings for a hamburger are as follows: cheese, bacon, ham, pineapple, avocado, ketchup, barbecue sauce, lettuce, pickle, In 'n Out spread.

Incorrect toppings: tomato, raw onion, mushrooms, beetroot (fuck you Australia), swiss cheese, blue cheese, mustard, mayonaise, Big Mac secret sauce, anything done because Jimmy Buffett told you to do it (including things unrelated to hamburgers).

I'm just going to stop here. You think pineapple is all good, but no love for tomato or beetroot?

Don't get me wrong, pineapple is rad too (with chicken, and maybe bacon, but no beef!), but your distaste for tomato and beetroot disgusts me!
 
On topic. I'm listening to Love Spreads now, I'm sooo ready to go waste my points and go buy it as DLC in RB. Such a great track, must wait for World Tour!
 
Also, wtf is with the spin off hate i get everywhere. Why are people complaining about more choice?

People have been trained to think songs being on different discs is evil. I'm not opposed to discs, but they have to be good value (GH:A was borderline) and have the export feature. That really is a best of both worlds scenario.
 
Belgand said:
This is odd. Yeah, I live on St. Charles Ave. I'm still within city limits :D . Where'd you move to now? I thought you were still local.

Policy debate. China was the best topic. Russia was less so. Domestic topics were rarely as good as foreign topics, but I oddly never got into extemp. Because of the way East Kansas NFL is structured debate was in the fall and forensics was in the spring so we got to do both. I did student congress. Since it was always held on Fridays at the same time as L-D it also meant I got to sleep on Saturdays instead of doing individual events. This is best way. L-D is not proper debate. I have basic issues with the concept of competitive debate based on moral and ethical issues.

Yeah, I used to live in the city (Oak and Fillmore) before that, but then I switched girlfriends.
I'm up in Davis, just finished law school.
I also did policy debate, because it was clearly better than LD, and I did immigration and China.
I wouldn't say LD is not proper debate, it's all about the style and quality of the arguments. I'm surprised by the relativist views on moral and ethical issues, from someone who is so judgmental when it comes to music, movies, games, and pizza.

I'm just glad to know you're not vegan, as I may not have to worry about you going "Tom Ripley" on me...
 
Johnkers said:
I'm just going to stop here. You think pineapple is all good, but no love for tomato or beetroot?

Don't get me wrong, pineapple is rad too (with chicken, and maybe bacon, but no beef!), but your distaste for tomato and beetroot disgusts me!

Raw tomato is an abomination. Everywhere. Period.

Pineapple is not ideal, but I've had it enjoyably before. It is perhaps in the grey area of things that are perhaps acceptable, but not ideal.

Beetroot is something I can honestly say I have never had on a hamburger. The concept sounds unpleasant. It was mainly included just as an obvious bit of baiting calculated on the premise that as an Australian you would likely have strong feelings on it. Nobody else in the world puts it on burgers. So I'm not decided on it, but yeah, just to screw with you. You rose to the bait admirably. :lol You have done your culture proud in it's defense.
 
TheGreatDave said:
People have been trained to think songs being on different discs is evil. I'm not opposed to discs, but they have to be good value (GH:A was borderline) and have the export feature. That really is a best of both worlds scenario.

So, just RB1 (so far) then?
 
Belgand said:
Raw tomato is an abomination. Everywhere. Period.

Pineapple is not ideal, but I've had it enjoyably before. It is perhaps in the grey area of things that are perhaps acceptable, but not ideal.

Beetroot is something I can honestly say I have never had on a hamburger. The concept sounds unpleasant. It was mainly included just as an obvious bit of baiting calculated on the premise that as an Australian you would likely have strong feelings on it. Nobody else in the world puts it on burgers. So I'm not decided on it, but yeah, just to screw with you. You rose to the bait admirably. :lol You have done your culture proud in it's defense.

Tomtao is amazing, I even occasionally eat it Apple style, like the fruit it is!

As for Beetroot, try it out dude. You wouldn't think a toy guitar would provide endless hours of entertainment either, but it's amazing. Also, for every Aussie beetroot fan, I could easily find opposition to the wonderful thing.

It's like olive haters, no reason why such a thing should exist
 
xbhaskarx said:
Yeah, I used to live in the city (Oak and Fillmore) before that, but then I switched girlfriends.
I'm up in Davis, just finished law school.
I also did policy debate, because it was clearly better, and I did immigration and China.
I wouldn't say LD is not proper debate, it's all about the style and quality of the arguments. I'm surprised by the relativist views on moral and ethical issues, from someone who is so judgmental when it comes to music, movies, games, and pizza.

I'm just glad to know you're not vegan, as I may not have to worry about you going "Tom Ripley" on me...

Yeah, I have incredibly strong feelings on matters of opinion, but on moral issues I'm a complete relativist, but also a pacifist. It's complicated. Especially on the occasions where you start moving from theory to practice... but that's the case with everything.

Essentially I'm just a very passionate, opinionated person. There is, however, a strong element of hyperbole in perhaps everything I say. It is my way. This is part of the reason why I've taken to referring to things as abominations.

Grr... Ted Leo is playing here next week, but it looks like he's just opening for Against Me. Why can't it be the other way around?
 
Johnkers said:
Tomato is amazing, I even occasionally eat it Apple style, like the fruit it is!

It tastes very alkaline to me. I can't tolerate it until you cook it's flavor away enough.

Johnkers said:
As for Beetroot, try it out dude. You wouldn't think a toy guitar would provide endless hours of entertainment either, but it's amazing. Also, for every Aussie beetroot fan, I could easily find opposition to the wonderful thing.

It would be basically not possible. I have absolutely no idea where I would even start with such an undertaking. I am lead to believe that "beetroot" is simply a beet. But beyond that... is it raw? Pickled? How is it sliced? I'm just at a loss to understand.

Johnkers said:
It's like olive haters, no reason why such a thing should exist

Olive oil is great. Olives themselves are horrible.

I also dislike coffee. Tea all the way.

TheGreatDave said:
I eat next to no fruit or veg. I'm a terrible person to eat with.

This is what makes you a better person.

Fruit, though is pretty great. The thing is fruit is designed to be delicious. Fruit actively wants to be eaten and has evolved to be delicious and readily edible by animals. Vegetables do not want to be eaten.

It is also what makes you a Briton.
 
Belgand said:
It tastes very alkaline to me. I can't tolerate it until you cook it's flavor away enough.

Look, I understand that. Even I, a tomato fan can not always tolerate it/

It would be basically not possible. I have absolutely no idea where I would even start with such an undertaking. I am lead to believe that "beetroot" is simply a beet. But beyond that... is it raw? Pickled? How is it sliced? I'm just at a loss to understand.

Grab a can at the market! Pickled, sliced, awesome.

Olive oil is great. Olives themselves are horrible.

Nah

I also dislike coffee. Tea all the way.

Great coffee is amazing. I'm more of a tea fan too though.
 
Johnkers said:
Grab a can at the market! Pickled, sliced, awesome.

Hmm... I shall look into this.

I also forgot. Fried egg is totally an acceptable hamburger topping.

Fried egg, cheddar cheese, bacon, ham... mmm, the good morning burger. It is like getting oral sex provided as an enticement to wake up except it is happening your mouth and not someone else's and... well actually it is very different in many other ways also, but trust me that it's delicious if you manage to live through it.
 
Belgand said:
Yeah, I have incredibly strong feelings on matters of opinion, but on moral issues I'm a complete relativist, but also a pacifist. It's complicated. Especially on the occasions where you start moving from theory to practice... but that's the case with everything.

Essentially I'm just a very passionate, opinionated person. There is, however, a strong element of hyperbole in perhaps everything I say.

Do you have emotional problems? You know, I myself dabbled in pacifism once...

Okay that's better, we're quite different after all.
I'm about as far from being a complete relativist as possible, I'm not sure how I'd define it, moral absolutism/universalism or deontological ethics or something along those lines...
And despite growing up in Berkeley, being a vegan, and driving a Prius, I'm certainly not a pacifist.
So if you're both a pacifist and a relativist, by being a pacifist are you not valuing the moral principle of non-violence above all else?

And although I'm a very opinionated person, there is almost no hyperbole in anything I say, I choose my words very carefully.
 
Belgand said:
Olive oil is great. Olives themselves are horrible.

I also dislike coffee. Tea all the way.

Johnkers said:
Great coffee is amazing. I'm more of a tea fan too though.

Both olive oil and green olives are great. Are kalamata olives green? Either way, they're also good.
Edit: no:
'Kalamata' is a large, black olive with a smooth and meatlike taste, named after the city of Kalamata, Greece, used as a table olive.

I have never tried either (non-herbal) tea or coffee.
Coffee smells terrible, I imagine it tastes the same.

I like both fruits and vegetables, but I dislike fruit-vegetables: eggplant, bell pepper, tomato
I can't stand the first two at all (okay I've never actually tried them...), and I can only eat uncooked tomato in small amounts (bruschetta or cherry tomato), or cooked if it's a paste/sauce/soup and not squishy with peel everywhere.
Apparently they're all in the same family or something...
Edit 2: nightshades: capsicum, potato, tobacco, tomato, eggplant.
 
xbhaskarx said:
Do you have emotional problems? You know, I myself dabbled in pacifism once...

Okay that's better, we're quite different after all.
I'm about as far from being a complete relativist as possible, I'm not sure how I'd define it, moral absolutism/universalism or deontological ethics or something along those lines...
And despite growing up in Berkeley, being a vegan, and driving a Prius, I'm certainly not a pacifist.
So if you're both a pacifist and a relativist, by being a pacifist are you not valuing the moral principle of non-violence above all else?

And although I'm a very opinionated person, there is almost no hyperbole in anything I say, I choose my words very carefully.

I'm about to value the moral principle of you fucking off above all else. :D

Hyperbole is important in most discussions. It keeps strong opinions well-grounded in the realm of the absurd so that while it is acknowledged that you feel strongly about something it is also obvious that you are not taking yourself too seriously.

If something is worth doing it's generally also worth taking ludicrously over the top.

I think that perhaps the issue is that while relativism is important the principle I value most is being alive. I will do absolutely anything to ensure my own survival (in a discussion the other day I mentioned how I would have no qualms destroying all other life if it was absolutely necessary to my own survival) if it is necessary. Recognizing this pacifism tends to follow in many cases through various means of reasoning.

I'm a relativist, but I'm also very much an egoist. Sadly manly people fail to realize that egoism tends to fall apart very quickly unless you take the long-term implications of your actions into account. Being nice to people doesn't necessarily take something away from me, but it often tends to benefit me later on. It's just a trick of keeping this in mind.

Relativism isn't so much about amorality as it is popularly viewed so much as it is about admitting that there is never going to be an unexceptional situation and so all moral decisions must be made entirely for that exact situation and that any absolute system will eventually fail. This is why Kant was, to put it properly, a fucktard.

xbhaskarx said:
I have never tried either (non-herbal) tea or coffee.
Coffee smells terrible, I imagine it tastes the same.

Ah, you're one of those "no caffeine" edgers? Never got into that part of it. Caffeine is an essential part of every day. Giving it up would mean I would probably also start to lose some of my not-inconsiderable geek cred as well (e.g. full bookshelf of RPGs, computer science minor, Linux fanboyism, TMBG fan, too many boxes of comics taking up my nearly non-existant storage space, etc.) plus I'd have to get rid of my caffeine molecule t-shirt.

Coffee smells great, but tastes awful. This continues to confound me. I've been slowly trying to build up an ability to appreciate it. I hate having something else that I could be a complete snob about and not being able to take part in it. Missing out on wine snobbery is bad enough. At least tea snobbery is even less common so I score some extra elitist points right there. Like looking down on that terrible herbal shite. It's not even proper tea.

xbhaskarx said:
I like both fruits and vegetables, but I dislike fruit-vegetables: eggplant, bell pepper, tomato
I can't stand the first two at all (okay I've never actually tried them...), and I can only eat uncooked tomato in small amounts (bruschetta or cherry tomato), or cooked if it's a paste/sauce/soup and not squishy with peel everywhere.
Apparently they're all in the same family or something...

Yes, along with nightshade. This is a warning to avoid them. Eggplant, however, if properly salted and such can be made largely edible. It's the only one that people actually acknowledge is completely inedible and alkaline though. If only they could realize that about the other two.

We do have an unfair advantage though. Tomatoes in the Bay Area are probably better than the vast majority of tomatoes available elsewhere unless you're actively pulling them out of the ground yourself.

xbhaskarx said:
Edit 2: nightshades: capsicum, potato, tobacco, tomato, eggplant.

Blast! I always forget about potatoes. They are amazing though. This casts doubt on my whole system! Ah well, the responsible thing to do is to just downplay that part of it and find a new scapegoat to blame everything on and hope nobody notices.
 
Linkin Parker said:
WTF happened to this thread .. Some people should be banned

Yes, people who like Linkin Park.

This is what happens to every Rock Band/Guitar Hero thread. We have a group of regulars. Don't worry, as soon as anything relevant about the games shows up we'll be back to arguing about that as well.
 
Belgand said:
Ah, you're one of those "no caffeine" edgers? Never got into that part of it. Caffeine is an essential part of every day. Giving it up would mean I would probably also start to lose some of my not-inconsiderable geek cred as well (e.g. full bookshelf of RPGs, computer science minor, Linux fanboyism, TMBG fan, too many boxes of comics taking up my nearly non-existant storage space, etc.) plus I'd have to get rid of my caffeine molecule t-shirt.

Coffee smells great, but tastes awful. This continues to confound me. I've been slowly trying to build up an ability to appreciate it. I hate having something else that I could be a complete snob about and not being able to take part in it. Missing out on wine snobbery is bad enough. At least tea snobbery is even less common so I score some extra elitist points right there. Like looking down on that terrible herbal shite. It's not even proper tea.

Yes, along with nightshade. This is a warning to avoid them. Eggplant, however, if properly salted and such can be made largely edible.

I am no caffeine now, but as I said, I've never even tried tea or coffee, so it only required giving up Coke/Pepsi.
I agree herbal tea is not very good and that it's not proper tea, the distinction I was making is that I've actually tried it. It's not something I drink on my own, but I'm sometimes offered herbal tea by people when they are making regular tea for themselves.

I have a theory that women love eggplant and men hate it. I have been informally polling people for almost a decade and my preliminary findings are that it's liked by ~80% women and ~30% men.

Edit: agreed on both the potato love and the Linkin Park hate.
 
TheGreatDave said:
I think they've set the standard. For GH:Metallica not to have it would be sad times.

I dont know that Metallical will have the export feature, but they did say DLC will be forward compatible from now on
 
sneaky77 said:
I dont know that Metallical will have the export feature, but they did say DLC will be forward compatible from now on

Not good enough by Dave's own standards! And it's too late to change them now, Dave...
 
sneaky77 said:
I dont know that Metallical will have the export feature, but they did say DLC will be forward compatible from now on

If it's not then... hmm... that's really going to be a problem. At the same time I think the biggest problem is that it'll likely be very hard. I'm not certain I'm up to the challenge that it will provide. I also worry that it will have a lot of newer crappy songs on it.
 
Linkin Parker said:
WTF happened to this thread .. Some people should be banned

Are we preventing you from posting something more relevant?
Would you like to discuss Linkin Park?

Linkin Parker said:
Does anybody know when is the Japanese release date ?

I don't believe there is one.
 
Linkin Parker said:
Does anybody know when is the Japanese release date ?

No Japanese release date has been announced. We also don't have any information on Rock Band's Japanese version other than that it will apparently eventually exist.

I will be released slightly before RB2 is released in Europe
 
xbhaskarx said:
Not good enough by Dave's own standards! And it's too late to change them now, Dave...

I have my standards, but I don't have principles. GH Metallica could be exactly like Aerosmith and I'd buy it. Hell, I'd probably bite at ACDC levels of rape.

Also, on topic, I don't drink any hot drink. Tea is a British love I don't share.
 
TheGreatDave said:
Also, on topic, I don't drink any hot drink. Tea is a British love I don't share.
What.

There's nothing like sitting in a general studies lesson discussing Marxism with a cup of tea!

Standing in your dressing gown with a morning up of coffee!

A hot chocolate with marshmellows!

ARE YOU INSANE, MAN?!
 
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