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[ChainedMaster]

I see it all the time, people say "no way would I ever do drugs" then get wasted multiple times a week. It just seems so hypocritical. I've known addicts, and I've heard a mother of an addict say something along the lines of "alcoholism isn't as bad" or "alcoholics live longer than drug addicts". It just boggles my mind that people have such a hard time realizing that alcohol is a hard drug. Alcoholics are drug addicts. It isn't cut and dried that illegal drugs are worse either. It depends which dangers you look at. Alcohol for example:

1) has lethal withdrawals, heroin and many others don't.

2) It destroys your organs, again (pure) opiates are relatively safe for the organs.

3) It is just as intoxicating, if not moreso than many illegal drugs.

4) Even if we were to go by addiction rates, alcohol isn't any special. According to our own government, alcohol is at 15%, cocaine (including crack) at 17% and heroin at 23%. In my opinion, illegal drug rates would be inflated, since it takes a special interest in these drugs to try them in a first place. eg. many people who try heroin are already addicted to opiates, giving it a bias, inflated addiction rate.

The point is, if you're going to be slamming drugs because they "ruin lives " and "people who do them are stupid", at least practice what you preach. Or at the very least, get off your high horse.

 

[geebee]

Sure. *drinks*

But seriously, I just see all drugs, legal or not as just that.. a drug.

 

[Jacobi]

Yeah, it's always like WHOA YOU TOOK ECSTASY???

Idiot, you're taking the harder drug

 

[teruterubozu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW0FOJMMIyQ

 

[shadyspace]

I don't disagree but I don't give a shit either

 

[Mr. Poolman]

I agree.

 

[Ferrio]

Speak for yourself, that stuff is easy to drink.

 

[AkuMifune]

 

[imtehman]

it's not frowned upon as much because its been legalized and because of this the collective conscience sees alcohol as not as bad as the other EVIL illegal stuff

 

[Hellsing321]

Yeah but Alcohol is way more delicious than those other drugs.

 

[Jackben]

Yes. But it's legal, so that makes it OK to abuse as long as you don't get too many D.U.I.'s

(lol)

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

To be fair it's usually phrased "drugs & alcohol" - they go hand in hand for many people.

But yeah alcohol is a drug simply by virtue of its definition.

Also, people are hypocritical, more at 11.

 

[Hunter S.]

Almost all that is true only if it is very heavily abused.

 

[Cyprus]

 

[Courage]

What about cocaine and alcohol at the same damn time?

 

[SneakyStephan]

I have an aunt who has been an alcoholic for 20 years, a stepdad who died from liver cancer who had been an alcoholic for ten years and a grandfather who was a wifebeater alcoholic

My own father was an agressive drunk when I grew up

It pisses me off when people hold double standards when it comes to alcohol.
It's a serious drug that destroys a lot of lives and is a highly addictive
My aunt is a slave to it and is not the same person when jonesing when she tries to quit, or when me or my brother or mother get random calls at 3 am from her after another relapse/binge

I doubt any of you don't at least know ONE alcoholic in the family or friend circle who ruined/is ruining their lives.

Lots of money is made off it and it keeps the plebs distracted though... so it's okay even if it destroys lives.

 

[ChainedMaster]

Almost all that is true only if it is very heavily abused.

Well yeah, most dangers of drugs tend to come from when they are heavily abused.

I have an aunt who has been an alcoholic for 20 years, a stepdad who died from liver cancer who had been an alcoholic for ten years and a grandfather who was a wifebeater alcoholic

My own father was an agressive drunk when I grew up

It pisses me off when people hold double standards when it comes to alcohol.
It's a serious drug that destroys a lot of lives and is a highly addictive
My aunt is a slave to it and is not the same person when jonesing when she tries to quit, or when me or my brother or mother get random calls at 3 am from her after another relapse/binge

I doubt any of you don't at least know ONE alcoholic in the family or friend circle who ruined/is ruining their lives.

Exactly. It seems that when somebody in their family is an alcoholic, it isn't really blamed on the alcohol. But when someone in the family is addicted to an illegal drug "I'd never try that stuff, it ruins lives!!". I know a girl that thinks this way. Her father is an addict, she gets wasted but would never "touch drugs" because of her father. Yet he also has problems with alcohol.

 

[EloquentM]

Almost all that is true only if it is very heavily abused.

That's the difference though. Most of those other drugs are heavily abused CONSISTENTLY. Alcohol is not which is the reason why it barely has a negative stigma.

 

[God Dayumm]

I don't think alcohol makes you look like lindsay lohan. Post pics if I'm wrong

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

That's the difference though. Most of those other drugs are heavily abused CONSISTENTLY. Alcohol is not which is the reason why it barely has a negative stigma.

Alcohol is not abused consistently? On what planet?

edit: sarcasm?

 

[TheContact]

But but but its legal....how can it be harmful if weed is illegal?? Surely our govt wouldnt be such hypocrites

 

[joelseph]

Yeah but Alcohol is way more delicious than those other drugs.

Alcohol is a acquired taste. The majority of pharmaceutical drugs have no taste. Dank marijuana buds are very tasty.

 

[Esch]

That's the difference though. Most of those other drugs are heavily abused CONSISTENTLY. Alcohol is not which is the reason why it barely has a negative stigma.

No, it barely has a negative stigma because it's just too damn good to outlaw.

 

[speculawyer]

1) has killer withdrawals, heroin and many others don't.

Wat? Perhaps you should rent Trainspotting.


Perhaps you meant hangover?

 

[andymcc]

but it's very delicious

 

[Fugu]

Hard drugs are generally so classified not based solely on their addictive potential but also for their ability to interfere with cognitive function. Classifying alcohol in the same category of heroin is not fair because alcohol is delivered in relatively small amounts; alcohol intoxication is a challenge if you're not intending it to happen, whereas heroin will be intoxicating to any non-addict more or less instantly.

Yeah but Alcohol is way more delicious than those other drugs.

This too. People consume alcohol for a wide variety of reasons, at least one of which has absolutely nothing to do with the intoxicating effects of alcohol.

 

[Brian Griffin]

It's all because of the narrative people have been told and the semantics surrounding it. The fact that "drugs and alcohol" is even a phrase that exists is evidence of that and because booze is legal people think it makes sense. They are both just chemicals you put in your body to fuck your brain up for temporary amusement.

 

[blame space]

I don't know.

 

[joelseph]

Wat? Perhaps you should rent Trainspotting.


Perhaps you meant hangover?

Alcohol withdraw for an alcoholic is very serious. Perhaps you should stop getting your drug education from movies.

 

[Nappuccino]

It's really easy to have a beer conversationally.

Just because people can abuse it doesn't mean that is the only way people use it.

 

[lil smoke]

Isn't death by drunk driving one of the leading causes of death at least in the US?

 

[ChainedMaster]

Wat? Perhaps you should rent Trainspotting.


Perhaps you meant hangover?

No. Opiate withdrawals are not considered deadly. Deaths are rare, and considered the result of other complications, not the withdrawal itself. Whereas alcohol withdrawal is directly lethal.

Hard drugs are generally so classified not based solely on their addictive potential but also for their ability to interfere with cognitive function. Classifying alcohol in the same category of heroin is not fair because alcohol is delivered in relatively small amounts; alcohol intoxication is a challenge if you're not intending it to happen, whereas heroin will be intoxicating to any non-addict more or less instantly.

Untrue. The amount of intoxication depends on the amount of drug used, as is the case with alcohol. You can get slightly intoxicated with heroin, and many people have.

 

[Trouble]

1) has killer withdrawals, heroin and many others don't.

wat

 

[anarckitty]

Wat? Perhaps you should rent Trainspotting.


Perhaps you meant hangover?

Hah! That threw me off a bit too.....

 

[Akkad]

Nobody has sucked dick for a six pack of Bud, or have they? lol.

 

[Bit-Bit]

I don't disagree but I don't give a shit either

Lol, this is like the anti-thesis of GAF.

 

[Kano on the Phone]

1) has killer withdrawals, heroin and many others don't.

LOL

You lost me here.

 

[Dark Octave]

I agree 100%.

I don't do any of it but weed is probably the best (safest) out of all. It being illegal is one of the dumbest and nonsensical things in the world.

 

[Stet]

And how. Cheers!

 

[joelseph]

LOL

You lost me here.

Yet it's true. LOL

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

The big difference that I see is that moderation is much more difficult, if not impossible with actual hard drugs. Moderate, but regular use with alcohol is very easy.

 

[Batman]

Alcohol is the worse widely available drug, but people keep on drinking until they develop health problems so they don't care until it happens until then.

 

[speculawyer]

Alcohol withdraw for an alcoholic is very serious. Perhaps you should stop getting your drug education from movies.

I did not say that alcohol does not have withdrawal. I said that heroin DOES have withdrawal. And just because something is in a movie, that doesn't mean it is false.

 

[Kano on the Phone]

Yet it's true. LOL

Heroin doesn't have killer withdrawals?

 

[ChainedMaster]

I guess I'll have to provide a citation for alcohol/heorin withdrawals since many people are doubting me.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-benzos-and-opiates-withdrawal-might-kill-you

Yes, after long term use, withdrawal from alcohol can kill. Alcohol withdrawal syndrome can take on mild, moderate, or severe forms.

Many people are surprised to learn that in most cases, withdrawal from many opiates is not deadly. Still there are some very important exceptions. Methadone, a long-acting opiate often prescribed as a replacement for heroin can cause death during withdrawal if it's consumed in high enough doses for a long enough period.

 

[SteveWinwood]

well okay

drinks a beer

 

[Trojita]

1) has killer withdrawals, heroin and many others don't.

An opiate not having withdrawels? The fuck??

Edit: You should have worded that better. Withdrawels that can kill makes more sense.

 

[dont call it a comeback]

It is hilarious how acceptable drinking is in our society but you can't take shrooms? Seriously?

One is proven to not only damage your body but destroy lives and families. The other uses psilocin molecules that bind with serotonin receptor sites in the brain and cause the mind to do strange things and scientists aren't quite sure why.

One is illegal, the other is widely accepted as a "good time".

Why is society so ass backwards?

 

[Lautaro]

I can get extremely drunk one night and then forget about alcohol for months.

Can you do that with drugs?

It's a genuine question, not trying to provoke here.

 

[entremet]

Moderation.

I love alcohol and have only been drunk once in my life. Birthday party and mixed liquor/wine/beer.

Beer and wine are one of life's greatest pleasures if enjoyed in moderation.

Plus we have already a long history of consuming the drug, so it's socially acceptable and great with food. Can't really say that about quick high drugs.