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Half Life 2 Graphic Mods

godels rotating universe said:
At what point did anyone claim that textures are sexist and racist?
The Alyx reskin are textures and that was accused of being sexist. The fan art of Faith is accused of being racist.
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
I love all the racist morons in this thread who prefer the "white" Faith with her average video game female body than the unique design of original Faith.

Fuck, what a sad thread.

Oh :lol smiley, how I miss thee.
 
I don't see how changing the tone of a character's skin is any different to changing the look of a corridor or gun. People are just sensitive about skin colour and not the latter.
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
Yes, it does. That's like giving Sheva Alomar a lighter skin shade or giving Alyx squinty eyes and making her more Asian. You don't think there's anything wrong with that?

I can't say that I think it's racist to change a characters eyes to a different style, even if they happen to be rounder instead of slimmer. Even though I'm indifferent to the change in Faith's character (which, let's face it, is irrelevant because it's a first person game), I have to defend the "modder's" right to make a character he likes.

Anime characters aren't racist, are they? Are the Asian women who have procedures done (surgical or otherwise) to make their eyes rounder also racist?

Also, isn't Alyx half Black and half Chinese or something? So what if she had squintier eyes?
 
The Faith image isn't an actual mod, just so people know.

It was a joke photoshop to show how other modern video game characters normally look.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
The Faith image isn't an actual mod, just so people know.

It was a joke photoshop to show how other modern video game characters normally look.
I'm pretty sure it was a fan-made suggestion for how DICE could 'improve' the character.
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
Yes, it does. That's like giving Sheva Alomar a lighter skin shade or giving Alyx squinty eyes and making her more Asian. You don't think there's anything wrong with that?

Complaining about racism then saying to make someone look more Asian give them 'squinty' eyes. Way to go!
 
Dance In My Blood said:
The Faith image isn't an actual mod, just so people know.

It was a joke photoshop to show how other modern video game characters normally look.

Yeah, seriously. How did we all get swept up into talking about it like it was actual game content?

HixxSAFC said:
Complaining about racism then saying to make someone look more Asian give them 'squinty' eyes. Way to go!

Hey man, Asians on average have squintier eyes than, say, White Europeans. It's not racist to describe prototypical features.

How's this for offensive: Black people have darker skin than White people. Most of the time. Call the Klan, cuz I'm a-joinin'!
 
Sad.

I would love for someone to make a joke mod based on this crap. Something where Alyx is now the common huge breasted 13 year old anime girl(tiny skirt with visible panties required), re-voiced by a high-pitched voice actress who can only speak Engrish(OOOOOHHHHH GORDON, ME SO HORNY FOR YOU!!!). The guys are all spike-y haired with gunswords and the striders are turned into mech-suits. Also all the combine are huge breasted aliens and Gordons' gun's now shoot white foam. Also TESSELLATE EVERYTHING! The walls, the ceilings, the stairs; everything should be made out of gravel.

And the worst part about it is that people will still like it. "Everything is better with big tits!" "WOW this is just like my Japanese animes!." "SO much better than the original!" "WOAH! Tessellation!"
 
Original HL2 textures and models are much better than most of the "enhancements" out there. Some games do need serious help in some areas, but the art team at Valve really know their shit.
 
As someone who just replayed hl2, the game did not look as good as my memories of it. The art direction is great, yes, but so much of the areas are low poly and low textured that instead of "desolate wasteland" things now look a little bit like "aged game with lazy designers"

the update to the orange box engine doesn't help things much either. For all the subtle changes it added, it totally isn't worth the sheer number of insane glitches that were added in at the same time.

I still love hl2 but... it could use a breath of fresh air in a few places.
 
This thread make me sad

Half Life 2 is awesome(remember 2004) and looks incredible even today, simply no need this shit..

People today think that graphics are just details, Half Life 2 are artistic superb and the world and her intercation with Gordon is something that even today is lost in the FPS...

Or what? we prefer pretentious and predictable games like moderns FPS(CoD-clones)
 
godels rotating universe said:
They're hardly just textures. The entire model is changed. And yes, it's pretty sexist, sorry.

Sexy characters are sexist? Keep that feminist propaganda bullshit out of here.
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
Yes, it does. That's like giving Sheva Alomar a lighter skin shade or giving Alyx squinty eyes and making her more Asian. You don't think there's anything wrong with that?

You're saying people here in GAF are racist if they like one design over another design.
I just see two character designs. One is designed after many months of carefully designing, the other is designed by someone who seems to think the ugly trashy sister of Adriana Lima is a better option. It's more sexist than racist. I think many people didn't even know what "race" Alyx was untill they encountered the father. Maybe a lot of people don't even think in terms of "race" like you.

He's just an art rapist (trying to do his best improving the image quality but failing harder than he imagined), not necessarily a racist (he might be.. who knows?).
 
Pimpbaa said:
Sexy characters are sexist? Keep that feminist propaganda bullshit out of here.

The reaction really is ridiculous. I guess it's sunday and nothing's going on so people ran out of things to be outraged by.
 
sam27368 said:
Before (dug up on Google, I know it looks a lot better these days)
http://ui17.gamefaqs.com/1520/gfs_53389_2_2.jpg[/IMG]

After
http://i.imgur.com/jC7zk.jpg[/IMG]

wow, "hi-res" actually looks pretty bad in this case
 
godels rotating universe said:
The games invariably lose something when fans 'upgrade' the textures as far as I'm concerned.

Invariably? No.

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hey_it's_that_dog said:
Yeah, seriously. How did we all get swept up into talking about it like it was actual game content?



Hey man, Asians on average have squintier eyes than, say, White Europeans. It's not racist to describe prototypical features.

How's this for offensive: Black people have darker skin than White people. Most of the time. Call the Klan, cuz I'm a-joinin'!

It's the term squinty I have a problem with but I don't want to degrade this thread further than its already gone.
 
godels rotating universe said:
Original Alyx is sexy.

She is to you, that's fine. She wasn't to the modder, so he fixed it. She's not to me, so I'm using the replacement.

No one's a racist or sexist or whatever for using it or even making it. This would be an issue only if Valve themselves did this and you had no choice.

edit: On a side note...damn I downloaded the wrong texture pack for new vegas because mine doesn't look that good :(
 
MrOogieBoogie said:
Yes, it does. That's like giving Sheva Alomar a lighter skin shade or giving Alyx squinty eyes and making her more Asian. You don't think there's anything wrong with that?
What if I made bayonetta chicana? I guess that would be racist too.
 
Ickman3400 said:
She is to you, that's fine. She wasn't to the modder, so he fixed it. She's not to me, so I'm using the replacement.

No one's a racist or sexist or whatever for using it or even making it. This would be an issue only if Valve themselves did this and you had no choice.
No, it's pretty sexist either way. It would just be worse if the original content creators were pushing that shit.
 
godels rotating universe said:
No, it's pretty sexist either way. It would just be worse if the original content creators were pushing that shit.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it sexist.
 
Ickman3400 said:
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it sexist.
I know. What makes it sexist is 'improving' her by turning her into the Platonic Form of the Slut. But I've explained that a few times now and you apparently haven't understood, so whatever.
 
Ickman3400 said:
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it sexist.

I don't think that's the reasoning anyone is offering for why it's sexist. I'm done talking about this but someone will explain it. Crowd-sourcing!
 
godels rotating universe said:
I know. What makes it sexist is 'improving' her by turning her into the Platonic Form of the Slut. But I've explained that a few times now and you apparently haven't understood, so whatever.

and you don't understand that it's not sexist! He changed her to how he likes it, you're free to use it or stay with the original. It's not like there's no women in real life who look like that.

Jesus what's with all the faux outrage today?
 
Ickman3400 said:
and you don't understand that it's not sexist! He changed her to how he likes it, you're free to use it or stay with the original. It's not like there's no women in real life who look like that.
So what you are saying is that it is impossible for opinions to be sexist because they are just preferences. Okay.
 
Yeah, the Alyx in the original HL2 wasn't giving me the immediate, prolonged erection I look for in my video game females, so I decided to "fix" that./brushes cheeto fingers on pant leg with one hand, continually faps with other
 
godels rotating universe said:
So what you are saying is that it is impossible for opinions to be sexist because they are just preferences. Okay.

Sexist is saying something like "women are worse drivers". Thinking girl A is better looking than girl B is not sexist, otherwise every man in existence is sexist.
 
Ickman3400 said:
Sexist is saying something like "women are worse drivers". Thinking girl A is better looking than girl B is not sexist, otherwise every man in existence is sexist.
Yeah, it's just a matter of having bad taste. :p
 
DennisK4 said:
Fallout 3 modded looks so much better than vanilla it might as well be a whole new (and better) game.

I... -

After finishing Fallout 3 GOTY, I might have to instantly replay it with this mod...
 
Ickman3400 said:
and you don't understand that it's not sexist! He changed her to how he likes it, you're free to use it or stay with the original. It's not like there's no women in real life who look like that.

Jesus what's with all the faux outrage today?

Give this man a tag.

Pimpbaa said:
Sexy characters are sexist? Keep that feminist propaganda bullshit out of here.

Exploitative and objectified characters are sexist, yes.
 
Zep said:
This makes me miss the days of San Andreas's unveiling. What a truly amazing embarrassing time.

Until someone linked me to one of those old threads, I was in serious disbelief that anyone on GAF had reacted that way.
 
Zep said:
This makes me miss the days of San Andreas's unveiling. What a truly amazing embarrassing time.
I CAN'T RELATE TO A TEENAGER GROWING UP IN CALIFORNIA DURING THE NINETIES, BECAUSE HE'S BLACK GHETTO

*has no problems "relating" to an italian mobster selling coke in miami or an eastern-european former soldier and immigrant*
 
Forkball said:
It's amazing how Alyx's design pissed off so many people because she wasn't hot enough.

and vice versa with this mod.

I don't mind it either way, I've already completed the game 8 times with no mods at all and will do the same for episode 3 most likely. It's just something to toy around with, that was my original point.

edit: Not messing around with any of that other shit though. Those textures are fugly compared to the original, and Barney's "new" face looks awful.
 
There is a mod that adds ADS and a bunch of guns and other stuff (SMOD I think). But frankly, it really adds nothing. The game really isn't built around the need to slow down and aim down the sight at things, and since it's a PC game there's not that much reason for the extra aiming sensitivity that ADS is basically a tool for. In fact, it kinda hurts since most guns have alt-fire options that need to be mapped to something else if you want to put ADS on RMB.
 
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