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[Lakitu]

LOL, is this really a Halo 2 expansion or something as the thread title suggests? Can't tell.

LOL! you are so funny!

 

[Unison]

When's the last time I heard a developer use the "alpha stage" excuse?


Oh yeah! PERFECT DARK ZERO

 

[ORANGUTAN]

pdz had bots why can't halo? even if they're crappy bots at least it's something

 

[Apharmd Battler]

???

 

[Confidence Man]

Who really needs to "train" for online? Whenever I come across bots in a server, whether it's CS or PDZ or whatever I always leave. I'd rather not play at all then play with bots.

And it seems people have been spoiled by Gears. Nothing will look as good for a long, long time, especially nothing with the scale of a game like Halo.

 

[Hyoushi]

Oh btw, dudes also say that they have been given an alpha build of Halo Wars which they are evaluating right now.

 

[Mooreberg]

Whaaaaaaaat? The PS3 isn't even out yet and you're saying its already hit the metaphorical technogical wall?

How likely are we to see games that look better than MGS4 and Crysis two years from now? I don't know if it is because every console is going with PC GPU vendors that are constantly updating their products on the PC side of things, or developers aren't take full advantage of what is there, or what. But for the asking price on these systems the jump in graphics seems a lot less significant than what we saw going from PSOne/N64 to PS2/Xbox/Gamecube.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Who really needs to "train" for online? Whenever I come across bots in a server, whether it's CS or PDZ or whatever I always leave. I'd rather not play at all then play with bots.

Agreed.

Moore you really need to quit while you're behind.

 

[duderon]

oh dear, you got to be kidding me.

16 players, and all we get is Halo 2 in HD?

Shut the **** up, dude. You know you'll play the game regardless :lol

 

[Kabouter]

And it seems people have been spoiled by Gears. Nothing will look as good for a long, long time, especially nothing with the scale of a game like Halo.

You realize Crysis is coming out in February and Alan Wake will be out in '07 as well right?

 

[shpankey]

So any theories on the X button to get this back on track? Would they do something as drastic as a cover system? Tuck and run? Lean?

my guess is

Spoiler

a thrust button, to fly, basically just like Tribes

 

[Razoric]

How likely are we to see games that look better than MGS4 and Crysis two years from now? I don't know if it is because every console is going with PC GPU vendors that are constantly updating their products on the PC side of things, or developers aren't take full advantage of what is there, or what. But for the asking price on these systems the jump in graphics seems a lot less significant than what we saw going from PSOne/N64 to PS2/Xbox/Gamecube.

:lol :lol :lol

talk out of your ass much?

 

[sublime085]

pdz had bots why can't halo? even if they're crappy bots at least it's something

I'd say Bungie prides themselves on their AI too much that they wouldn't want to half-ass it? I'd much rather they put their resources elsewhere.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

You realise Crysis is coming out in February and Alan Wake will be out in '07 as well right?

yeah alan wake looks amazing.

 

[scarybore]

Looks pretty good if you ask me considering it's multiplayer and the Legendary Edition sounds great. All the cut scenes in HD FTW!

Can't say I care about bots, if you are connected to Xbox Live then just play a game since you will always get better faster against people anyways. For those not connected to Xbox Live, bad luck I guess.

 

[Uncle]

Alan Wake will be out in '07

Really? Where did you get this from?

 

[Francias Castiglione]

Can we get a thread title change again to reflect the Alpha status of this build. Or would that only be applicable to a non-M$ game loLOLLLZ

 

[Mooreberg]

So if Halo 3 had good bots nobody would want to play online?

Clearly you have a dizzying intellect

I'm sure plenty of people would still be playing it online. So why not include the bots for people who want it?

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

my guess is

Spoiler

a thrust button, to fly, basically just like Tribes

maybe a book it button or to string melee combos (hit multiple targets but they would have to tone down mellee a lot)

 

[Kabouter]

Really? Where did you get this from?

Was in an interview a while back I think, Remedy said the current release date was set for '2007'.

 

[gollumsluvslave]

Wow looks like the XBDF are out in force.

I did expect to see something very different though, I can understand the Halo 2 HD comments.

:lol :lol :lol

 

[GotchaForce]

Looks like a next-gen Halo to me, which is freaking awesome. VERY impressed with how a lot of the enviroments remind me of Halo 1. Glad the devs made it clear they're going for a clean/classic look as opposed to the ultra detail in Gears of Wars. Halo's going to be faster paced with a larger scale, I'll gladly accept that if the ground textures don't scream masterpeice in my face.

 

[Mooreberg]

:lol :lol :lol

talk out of your ass much?

Have you been playing some of the PC games that have come out since 2004 or just Katamari Damacy? If you think this is a huge leap over a lot of what we've already seen, than keep having fun in dreamland.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Can we get a thread title change again to reflect the Alpha status of this build. Or would that only be applicable to a non-M$ game loLOLLLZ

also take that screen down. don't know if it was missunderstood but the link i posted was for blood gulch in halo 2 so people could compare to these new screens. Main page it is posted saying it is a Halo 3 screen. dear god it is not.

 

[Uncle]

Was in an interview a while back I think, Remedy said the current release date was set for '2007'.

That's funny because I read an interview from them this month where they said that they don't have no release date to aim for.

 

[sublime085]

my guess is

Spoiler

a thrust button, to fly, basically just like Tribes

Hmm I don't know how I feel about that. I don't think I'd like it at all. I like my perfectly executed crouch-jumps.

 

[Kabouter]

That's funny because I read an interview from them this month where they said that they don't have no release date to aim for.

Must have changed then

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Have you been playing some of the PC games that have come out since 2004 or just Katamari Damacy? If you think this is a huge leap over a lot of what we've already seen, than keep having fun in dreamland.

....There are no words.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Looks like a next-gen Halo to me, which is freaking awesome. VERY impressed with how a lot of the enviroments remind me of Halo 1. Glad the devs made it clear they're going for a clean/classic look as opposed to the ultra detail in Gears of Wars. Halo's going to be faster paced with a larger scale, I'll gladly accept that if the ground textures don't scream masterpeice in my face.

Haha as long as they bring back open environments in single player will I be happy. halo 2 was just way to linear when compared to the first.

 

[ORANGUTAN]

And it seems people have been spoiled by Gears. Nothing will look as good for a long, long time

This is something that people are going to have to realize. Gears is the best looking game ever, moreso than any other 360/PS3 game, including H3, MGS4, FF13, Mass Effect, etc. I have a feeling it's going to retain the graphics crown for quite a while... maybe until Killzone 2 or Splinter Cell 5 which is being made from the ground up for next-gen.. That new promotional ad on my 720p widescreen LCD was unbelievable... it seriously looked like high quality CG.

People expecting graphics to get considerably better than Gears are in for a rude awakening.

 

[OverHeat]

This is something that people are going to have to realize. Gears is the best looking game ever, moreso than any other 360/PS3 game, including H3, MGS4, FF13, Mass Effect, etc. I have a feeling it's going to retain the graphics crown for quite a while... maybe until Killzone 2 or Splinter Cell 5 which is being made from the ground up for next-gen.. That new promotional ad on my 720p widescreen LCD was unbelievable... it seriously looked like high quality CG.

People expecting graphics to get considerably better than Gears are in for a rude awakening.

qft

 

[EviLore]

....There are no words.

Yes there are: "it's true."

 

[GotchaForce]

Haha as long as they bring back open environments in single player will I be happy. halo 2 was just way to linear when compared to the first.

Looks pretty open to me

 

[Unison]

This is something that people are going to have to realize. Gears is the best looking game ever, moreso than any other 360/PS3 game, including H3, MGS4, FF13, Mass Effect, etc. I have a feeling it's going to retain the graphics crown for quite a while... maybe until Killzone 2 or Splinter Cell 5 which is being made from the ground up for next-gen.. That new promotional ad on my 720p widescreen LCD was unbelievable... it seriously looked like high quality CG.

People expecting graphics to get considerably better than Gears are in for a rude awakening.

This is the first game to use the Unreal Engine 3. I am sure subsequent games that use the same engine (with improvements) will be able to surpass it no problem. :lol


But yeah... GoW looks so much better than these Halo shots that it's not funny.

 

[Wollan]

Gears is not the best looking console game shown to date but that's another discussion.

 

[travisbickle]

:lol :lol :lol

Shit, I mean I exspected to be blown away, even from crappy little pics like these. With MGS4 pics before TGS that were shown really little from some mag and i was staring at them for a couple of days thinking they were from some anime or CGI.

Whereas from these little pics it looks like an update of Unreal Tournament 2007, not mindblowing.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Looks pretty open to me

that screen upsets me. I better be able to wlk to that edge in the game. instead of just a cut scene. :'(

 

[Unison]

Gears is not the best looking console game shown to date but that's another discussion.

Not to derail the thread, but what would you say the best looking console game shown to date is? (please don't say Halo 3).

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Not to derail the thread, but what would you say the best looking console game shown to date is? (please don't say Halo 3).

Oh God. If this keeps up I will not be around to see Lost Odyssey sell a million copies.

 

[Not a Jellyfish]

Gears is not the best looking console game shown to date but that's another discussion.

it will be the best looking game out when it comes out in less than 2 weeks. yay!!!

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

I've been anticipating this meltdown for a while. I've tried to make the argument about scale and enemy density vs immaculate detail quite a few times in regards to comparisons between Gears of War and certain other games, but I guess now that it relates to Halo, it's suddenly a relevant argument. Good times.

 

[OverHeat]

the only bad thing about the new sceens is that they removed the reflective visor from the trailers. but Im sure its still in SP

 

[Cdammen]

This thread is all kinds of stupid

 

[Kabouter]

I've been anticipating this meltdown for a while. I've tried to make the argument about scale and enemy density vs immaculate detail quite a few times in regards to comparisons between Gears of War and certain other games, but I guess now that it relates to Halo, it's suddenly a relevant argument. Good times.

Assuming your logic is correct. Then how is it that Alan Wake, which is retarded in size, looks phenomenal?

 

[Francias Castiglione]

I've been anticipating this meltdown for a while. I've tried to make the argument about scale and enemy density vs immaculate detail quite a few times in regards to comparisons between Gears of War and certain other games, but I guess now that it relates to Halo, it's suddenly a relevant argument. Good times.

Again you can't really make statements about that until we see what the late Beta builds look like. Well you can but they ultimately become irrelevant.

 

[ORANGUTAN]

This is the first game to use the Unreal Engine 3. I am sure subsequent games that use the same engine (with improvements) will be able to surpass it no problem. :lol


But yeah... GoW looks so much better than these Halo shots that it's not funny.

We have seen plenty of other UE3 games that will be released well after Gears and none of them really even come close. UT2k7 is the closest and even with that you can see a noticeable jump with Gears.

Mass Effect, Huxley, Too Human, whatever else is on UE3... none of these games are in the same league. I'm serious.

Gears is not the best looking console game shown to date but that's another discussion.

Wollan, what do you think is the best looking console game then? FF13--a game we've barely seen anything at all of? 13% done, and a completely different genre.

I'm not an Xbot, I'm not an Sbot or whatever. Gears is the best looking console game we've seen, period. Seeing it on my HDTV confirmed that for me.

 

[GotchaForce]

that screen upsets me. I better be able to wlk to that edge in the game. instead of just a cut scene. :'(

Can't really think of anything used in a Halo cutscene you couldn't do in the game, other than space stuff of course.

 

[ThirdEye]

Looks pretty open to me

Sorry that's a prerendered 2D background

 

[CabbageRed]

After reading the quote on graphics, I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 has a bit of the DOA bug where the style does not lend itself GoW-level technical splendor from the end user's viewpoint. I also think if I were to truly try to gauge Halo 3's graphics from tiny scans of an alpha build, I would be an idiot.

 

[GotchaForce]

Sorry that's a prerendered 2D background

Actually, it's sprites. The ships use advanced mode 7.