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Halo 5 Guardians: #huntthetruth

stumbled across some concept art for their most recent live action trailer, not sure if it has already been posted
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MrGreencastle said:
I'm convinced there's a lore-related reason for it. There's no way that Harvester was not, at the very least, "grown". It is definitely a remnant of a living creature.
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wesleyshark said:
I've been under the same impression.
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The harvesters are moulded from Lekgolo, aren't they? Sbaolekgolo to use the right term for the type used in a meta-colony.

They're like Scarabs in that, or indeed even Hunters.

So not based off a creature that looks like it, but rather moulded from worms...It could be that the explanation of the appearance is just for intimidation?
 
LordOfChaos said:
The harvesters are moulded from Lekgolo, aren't they? Sbaolekgolo to use the right term for the type used in a meta-colony.

They're like Scarabs in that, or indeed even Hunters.

So not based off a creature that looks like it, but rather moulded from worms...It could be that the explanation of the appearance is just for intimidation?
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Personally, I think the Hunter worms are used in the Harvester "shell" as a sort of nervous system, like in the Scarabs. The actual shell, though I think is still organic in nature, for the most part - aside from weapons and walkways and such. Wouldn't be surprised if we learn more about this kind of thing in Halo 5, judging by the looks of Truth and Regret mp maps.
 
Chemical Rampancy said:
Cross interaction from the halo trilogy and Halo 4 was atrocious, notably

- The Chief is alive again, nobody cares.
- The Chief has seen more Spartans, doesn't care.
- Literally no effort was made to further flesh out the covenant or their post trilogy shenanigans. Pretty jarring considering how Halo 3 ended on a peaceful note.
- No mention of the flood (lol?)
- No original trilogy characters
- No fucking Halo theme

It's like they didn't want to cater to Halo fans at all.
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Taking down the shields to the Didact's ship with the infinity coming to support you had plenty of the Halo theme playing. You must have missed it.

Why would the Chief have an overthetop reaction to seeing other Spartans? He's seen Spartans his whole life. What was he suppose to do, go off on a huge emotive tangent about how much he missed seeing other Spartans? The fact is the Chief may have been a more talkative Chief in Halo 4, but the Chief still very much means business, and is more concerned with getting results than reminiscing with some Spartans he obviously doesn't know.

Why would the Covenant's post trilogy shenanigans even be a concern when they were far separated from that part of the universe, and were much more concerned with the dangerous crap going down on Requiem? I don't get it. There was no time for them to just stop and catch the Chief up on galaxy wide diplomacy and politics. All they knew is that there was a set of covenant still seemingly up to the same old shit, and there was a whole new set of dangerous enemies that would pose a threat to all of humanity. The Chief is alive again, nobody cares? Absolutely not true, it was beyond obvious that Laskey was relieved as all hell to see the chief and knew he was in the presence of a true hero and legend.

Palmer's "I thought you'd be taller" was totally tongue in cheek and very nicely done. It was her way of acknowledging the legend without going too far and absolutely gushing over the guy. It had a bit of joke in there, but the respect in it was also clear. I didn't see it as at all disrespectful towards the Chief. That one wasn't necessarily just for you, but some seem to think it was evidence of a lack of respect for the Chief. Since when were people never allowed to poke fun at or make jokes about the Chief? Cortana, Johnson, and I believe others, have done it many times. Not putting Palmer on the same level as those characters, but we have to be realistic sometimes.

The game mentions the flood, and they weren't even the focus of the story, so why would they have to come up in any significant way? The threat was the prometheans, the didact, and the composer.
 
SenjutsuSage said:
Taking down the shields to the Didact's ship with the infinity coming to support you had plenty of the Halo theme playing. You must have missed it.
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It sampled parts of the Halo theme for like, eight seconds. Nothing compared to what was delivered in Halo 1-3, i.e the actual Halo theme.

Why would the Chief have an overthetop reaction to seeing other Spartans? He's seen Spartans his whole life. What was he suppose to do, go off on a huge emotive tangent about how much he missed seeing other Spartans? The fact is the Chief may have been a more talkative Chief in Halo 4, but the Chief still very much means business, and is more concerned with getting results than reminiscing with some Spartans he obviously doesn't know.
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Nobody but you is talking about an 'over the top emotive tangent'. How about just

"Cortana, those aren't Spartan II's. What's the status of the Spartan programme?"

Because I don't know. Why would one of the last survivors and acting leader of an army of gentically modfied forces of nature whom are the only family he has, want an update on how/what they're doing after being in the dark for half a decade?

If you want to humanise the Master Chief, how about actually making him ask the questions that he'd quite fucking blatantly want to ask.

I mean, lol?

Why would the Covenant's post trilogy shenanigans even be a concern when they were far separated from that part of the universe, and were much more concerned with the dangerous crap going down on Requiem? I don't get it. There was no time for them to just stop and catch the Chief up on galaxy wide diplomacy and politics. All they knew is that there was a set of covenant still seemingly up to the same old shit, and there was a whole new set of dangerous enemies that would pose a threat to all of humanity. The Chief is alive again, nobody cares? Absolutely not true, it was beyond obvious that Laskey was relieved as all hell to see the chief and knew he was in the presence of a true hero and legend.
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The original trilogy ended on a peaceful note between humans and elites. The final quote from the shipmaster did more than imply that regular Elites were intelligent enough to assess the events on Earth and come to terms with having been deceieved by the Prophets. The fact that the Chief nor Cortana seemed to care that Humano-Covenant conflict was back on, despite having dedicated their entire lives to bring it to an end, is again unrealistic and bad writing.

Palmer's "I thought you'd be taller" was totally tongue in cheek and very nicely done. It was her way of acknowledging the legend without going too far and absolutely gushing over the guy.
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You....you what?

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It had a bit of joke in there, but the respect in it was also clear. I didn't see it as at all disrespectful towards the Chief. That one wasn't necessarily just for you, but some seem to think it was evidence of a lack of respect for the Chief. Since when were people never allowed to poke fun at or make jokes about the Chief? Cortana, Johnson, and I believe others, have done it many times. Not putting Palmer on the same level as those characters, but we have to be realistic sometimes.
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After everything the Chief has done, it unrealistic how they reacted to his presence and it comes across as inhuman. Look at the post Death Star run in Star Wars and look at how everyone reacted to the star-pilots returning to the rebel base, did everyone meeting them act mild and chill? No, rightly so everyone went fucking mental. Now imagine instead of the hero protecting freedom, he saved essentially every species in the galaxy, was presumed dead, but then heroically returned once more. Do you honestly think that whether it's a young marine or a seasoned captain, that everyone on the Infinity wouldn't be psyched as fuck to be meeting the legendary MC? Don't you think people wouldn't be going out of their way to catch a glimpse of their hero? I fucking would. There's nothing wrong with this kind of indulgence in storys, because that at its core legitimate human emotion is what makes stories fun to experience.

You do know that this is the universal symbol for drama right?

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So why do you consider an emotionless story good storytelling? Ironically, I'd hazard that you even consider this a more 'mature' form of storytelling. Which is a common misconception people hold, but absolutely wrong.

I want to make a final point, as it's a running theme with these replies. As a general rule in entertainment media. You cannot carefully design a universe which features many important events which fans grow accustomed to, and then suddenly try to hide them away or have characters blatantly its history. It completely wrecks the narrative continuity and makes it impossible for a competent audience to empathise with characters that act in frankly bizarre ways with regards to historic events, it really is atrocious writing and I'm shocked how far you're going to defend it.

The game mentions the flood, and they weren't even the focus of the story, so why would they have to come up in any significant way? The threat was the prometheans, the didact, and the composer.
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When does the game mention the Flood?
 
SenjutsuSage said:
Taking down the shields to the Didact's ship with the infinity coming to support you had plenty of the Halo theme playing. You must have missed it.

Why would the Chief have an overthetop reaction to seeing other Spartans? He's seen Spartans his whole life. What was he suppose to do, go off on a huge emotive tangent about how much he missed seeing other Spartans? The fact is the Chief may have been a more talkative Chief in Halo 4, but the Chief still very much means business, and is more concerned with getting results than reminiscing with some Spartans he obviously doesn't know.

Why would the Covenant's post trilogy shenanigans even be a concern when they were far separated from that part of the universe, and were much more concerned with the dangerous crap going down on Requiem? I don't get it. There was no time for them to just stop and catch the Chief up on galaxy wide diplomacy and politics. All they knew is that there was a set of covenant still seemingly up to the same old shit, and there was a whole new set of dangerous enemies that would pose a threat to all of humanity. The Chief is alive again, nobody cares? Absolutely not true, it was beyond obvious that Laskey was relieved as all hell to see the chief and knew he was in the presence of a true hero and legend.

Palmer's "I thought you'd be taller" was totally tongue in cheek and very nicely done. It was her way of acknowledging the legend without going too far and absolutely gushing over the guy. It had a bit of joke in there, but the respect in it was also clear. I didn't see it as at all disrespectful towards the Chief. That one wasn't necessarily just for you, but some seem to think it was evidence of a lack of respect for the Chief. Since when were people never allowed to poke fun at or make jokes about the Chief? Cortana, Johnson, and I believe others, have done it many times. Not putting Palmer on the same level as those characters, but we have to be realistic sometimes.

The game mentions the flood, and they weren't even the focus of the story, so why would they have to come up in any significant way? The threat was the prometheans, the didact, and the composer.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Well done.
 
RoKKeR said:
I'd say this is definitely in-game. Pre rendered cutscene with in-game assets ala Halo 4, could easily see it looking that good.
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Granted, it's a 2 second gif ripped from a montage video, but it doesn't appear to have that smooth, fluid animation of a CGI cutscene. It looks like mo-cap, given the more realistic way his arms drop.

But again- This is total over-analyzation of a tiny gif haha. Who really knows. Could be a result of just about any process.

I'm just going off of how good Halo 4 looked, and how much better it looks on the Xbone- this appears to be a natural next step in fidelity.
 
RoKKeR said:
I'd say this is definitely in-game. Pre rendered cutscene with in-game assets ala Halo 4, could easily see it looking that good.
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Looks great.

I'm guessing Halo 5 will be heavy on the lighting and particle effects - even at ~1080pr 60fps which I'm assuming it'll be running at. We're gonna see sand, water, reflections, and sparks like never before.
 
MrGreencastle said:
Looks great.

I'm guessing Halo 5 will be heavy on the lighting and particle effects - even at ~1080pr 60fps which I'm assuming it'll be running at. We're gonna see sand, water, reflections, and sparks like never before.
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Yep, I think it's gonna be a looker that plays like a champ. I can't wait to see a live demo of the campaign to watch 5 seconds, say yep, and close it because I'm not spoiling myself. Multiplayer though, give me all of it.
 
El_Chino said:
The same was said when we first saw in game Halo 4 screens...
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Yeah honestly, Halo 4 looks pretty good ported over to Xbox One. This is a brand new engine running on brand new hardware and 343 are technical wizards with respect to squeezing out the good stuff from their hardware. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
 
DesertFox said:
On my recent MCC play through I thought something felt off about that scene but couldn't put my finger on it. Yeah, the lighting is horrible compared to the 360 version.
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I dunno how that happened, though.

But I guess you can say that about a lot things in the MCC.
 
Bsigg12 said:
Yep, I think it's gonna be a looker that plays like a champ. I can't wait to see a live demo of the campaign to watch 5 seconds, say yep, and close it because I'm not spoiling myself. Multiplayer though, give me all of it.
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I'd love to have that kind of control, but I'm so thirsty for more. Gahhhhh
 
wesleyshark said:
Granted, it's a 2 second gif ripped from a montage video, but it doesn't appear to have that smooth, fluid animation of a CGI cutscene. It looks like mo-cap, given the more realistic way his arms drop.

But again- This is total over-analyzation of a tiny gif haha. Who really knows. Could be a result of just about any process.

I'm just going off of how good Halo 4 looked, and how much better it looks on the Xbone- this appears to be a natural next step in fidelity.
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I mean CGI uses mo-cap too. The Blur cinematics were done with mo-cap. Not saying it is or isnt, some of the stuff this generation has blown me away, wouldnt be surprised if this was in engine.
 
singhr1 said:
I mean CGI uses mo-cap too. The Blur cinematics were done with mo-cap. Not saying it is or isnt, some of the stuff this generation has blown me away, wouldnt be surprised if this was in engine.
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Oh that's true! It just doesn't look like CGI to me. But I could be totally wrong haha.
 
SenjutsuSage said:
Taking down the shields to the Didact's ship with the infinity coming to support you had plenty of the Halo theme playing. You must have missed it.

Why would the Chief have an overthetop reaction to seeing other Spartans? He's seen Spartans his whole life. What was he suppose to do, go off on a huge emotive tangent about how much he missed seeing other Spartans? The fact is the Chief may have been a more talkative Chief in Halo 4, but the Chief still very much means business, and is more concerned with getting results than reminiscing with some Spartans he obviously doesn't know.

Why would the Covenant's post trilogy shenanigans even be a concern when they were far separated from that part of the universe, and were much more concerned with the dangerous crap going down on Requiem? I don't get it. There was no time for them to just stop and catch the Chief up on galaxy wide diplomacy and politics. All they knew is that there was a set of covenant still seemingly up to the same old shit, and there was a whole new set of dangerous enemies that would pose a threat to all of humanity. The Chief is alive again, nobody cares? Absolutely not true, it was beyond obvious that Laskey was relieved as all hell to see the chief and knew he was in the presence of a true hero and legend.

Palmer's "I thought you'd be taller" was totally tongue in cheek and very nicely done. It was her way of acknowledging the legend without going too far and absolutely gushing over the guy. It had a bit of joke in there, but the respect in it was also clear. I didn't see it as at all disrespectful towards the Chief. That one wasn't necessarily just for you, but some seem to think it was evidence of a lack of respect for the Chief. Since when were people never allowed to poke fun at or make jokes about the Chief? Cortana, Johnson, and I believe others, have done it many times. Not putting Palmer on the same level as those characters, but we have to be realistic sometimes.

The game mentions the flood, and they weren't even the focus of the story, so why would they have to come up in any significant way? The threat was the prometheans, the didact, and the composer.
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wesleyshark said:
Couldn't have said it better myself. Well done.
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I'm calling y'all the slrp twins. I didn't think we'd ever find someone who likes Halo 4 as much as SenjutsuSage.
 
wesleyshark said:
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That's more like it.

halo3isbesthalo

My guess is that you're younger than me, since halo game favoritism is almost always based on which one released when you had the most free time / friends to play with. Though I'll admit I really, really enjoyed the H5 beta and I think the marketing so far has been quite good.
 
GrizzNKev said:
That's more like it.

halo3isbesthalo

My guess is that you're younger than me, since halo game favoritism is almost always based on which one released when you had the most free time / friends to play with. Though I'll admit I really, really enjoyed the H5 beta and I think the marketing so far has been quite good.
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I'm 30. I've been playing Halo since 2003. If I had to sum up time played with friends for each title, I'm pretty sure Halo 2 would be on top, followed by Halo 4, then Halo 3 then Halo CE.

That being said, Halo 4 is by far my favorite.

And with that being said, there isn't a Halo game I dislike. They all have excellent stuff to offer. I'm just enjoying the ride.
 
GrizzNKev said:
That's more like it.

halo3isbesthalo

My guess is that you're younger than me, since halo game favoritism is almost always based on which one released when you had the most free time / friends to play with. Though I'll admit I really, really enjoyed the H5 beta and I think the marketing so far has been quite good.
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That definitely would explain it. Halo 3 wins out from Halo CE and 2 by *this* much.
 
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