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neoism · Mar 18, 2011

got another link to the RvB trailer ? :3

A27_StarWolf · Mar 18, 2011

When in doubt, default to the game creators cannon.

Im_So_Pringles · Mar 18, 2011

Mojo said:
Wow really? Aside from the lighting, the maps and textures all looked like they came from Halo 3. I thought that if they can do all that from scratch, they should create places that weren't from the game at all; which seems to be what they are doing with Season 9

I'm assuming they did a green screen hybrid with the animation. They shot the camera movements in Halo 3, but did the animation in a big greenscreen box (all they did was match the lighting and camera movements of the game). Then they just patched the two shots together in an external video editing program like you would with footage in front of a real greenscreen.

Edit: I've actually used this technique in many of my own projects. It's quite simple and efficient, really.

Edit 2:

MrBig said:
uhhhh, those weren't action figure bro...

Yeah, I know. Greenscreens can be used in the digital world, too. I guess I wasn't that clear; I meant to say that they created an "artificial" greenscreen in the animation program. They just animated in front of that, and then applied live action techniques when putting the shots together. It was all done on computers, no use of real cameras of any kind.

MrBig · Mar 18, 2011

Im_So_Pringles said:
I'm assuming they did a green screen hybrid with the animation. They shot the camera movements in Halo 3, but did the animation in a big greenscreen box (all they did was match the lighting and camera movements of the game). They just patched the two shots together in an external video editing program.

uhhhh, those weren't action figures bro...

Havok · Mar 18, 2011

So uh...any word on maybe removing most of the power weapons on Highlands? :/ Games with Striker and Fox ended up being a ridiculously annoying experience because of the 3 snipers, 2 rocket guys, laser guy, shotgun guy, grenade/plasma launcher guy per team combo.

And I don't think Condemned works particularly great for 6v6, at least for Slayer. Its just teams running around spraying at each other, and since nobody will ever vote for objective stuff....

Kind of a shame that the DLC splitting crap means that none of the DLC maps get to be played the way they were meant to, with proper team sizes. Hopefully 343 can influence some Microsoft DLC policy change, its really hurting the platform.

MrBig · Mar 18, 2011

Im_So_Pringles said:
Yeah, I know. Greenscreens can be used in the digital world, too. I guess I wasn't that clear; I meant to say that they created an "artificial" greenscreen in the animation program. They just animated in front of that, and then applied live action techniques when putting the shots together. It was all done on computers, no use of real cameras of any kind.

I guess I can see what you mean but greenscreens are something that's only really needed with physical cameras when you want to remove a background. In this case they'd just be matching the camera movements to the co-ordinates of a film clip that they'd save in reach and then composite in the pre-rendered scene from max. There's no "greenscreening" involved, you just wouldn't render a background.

GhaleonEB · Mar 18, 2011

So, Bungie has tweaked the Firefight playlists. Seems that Unearthed will come up as the first option in Score Attack now - or it did the two games I played just now - and there are three voting rounds in Limited (not sure of Arcade, but it might). So, thanks guy. Much appreciated.

Got Unearthed in Limited a while ago.

A hypothetical situation for you.

Let's say, hypothetically, that you didn't run for the Warthog at the start of the match because you knew others would, so you roll around with the DMR while two dudes in a party cavort about in the 'Hog. And let's say they're 1) not very good and 2) not good team mates, because they're just driving everywhere. But they still 'splode lots of guys. And then they die after a few Waves.

And then, hypothetically, at the start of the next Round you figure it's your turn in the 'Hog for a bit since they had it last time and it's your first game on Limited on the map, so you position yourself near it at respawn and hop in the driver seat, and make a friendly tap of the horn for a gunner. And instead of hopping in, these two hypothetical guys in party chat stand outside of the Warthog meleeing you and tossing grenades and shooting and doing everything they can to say, no, you may not have a turn in the Warthog, it's all theirs, so there.

Now let's say you decide they're dicks and hop out of the Rocket Hog to let them drive away in it. But as they're doing so, you use your newly recharged Target Locator on their vehicle as it drives into the distance, and - hypothetically - laugh as you see the explosion in the distance. So there.

And then these guys spend the next six or seven minutes - the entire duration of the rest of the game, shooting, tossing grenades, punching you - etc. - instead of killing enemies as retribution for your hypothetical retribution. So you take to leading them into hilarious traps like buzzing past the drop pod with the four FRG Grunts, knowing they're so focused on you they will - hypothetically - get toasted by them. And they do!

And then you're the last man standing, have an epic final stand, get the medal and then die before they can respawn, ending the game. (Unintentionally.)

Were you A) an poor sportsman, B) a exacting hilarious if excessive revenge, C) dishing out what they deserved, or D) all of the above?

Hypothetically.

Tunavi · Mar 18, 2011

Tashi0106 said:
Who are you again?

Sai-kun said:
Dayum. Tunavi on suicide watch.

lol. Alright just got back from my spring break trip, downloading the new maps now. (Just saw the strokes at SXSW. SO fucking amazing)

rObit · Mar 18, 2011

Hey all. Haven't posted in here very often, but I keep up on the thread. I don't really feel I have a whole lot to contribute since I don't play the game nearly as much as most of you. Most of the issues you guys bring up don't bother me because I don't play the game enough for them to have a lasting impression. Anyway, bought the new maps and am having a blast, but don't really know anyone on live. I'm not much good but I try to have a positive attitude so as to not be a hindrance to teammates in that regard. If anyone (juniors, lurkers, whatever) wants to add me my GT is The Audio Pulse. I'll be on for a few hours yet and am down for firefight, campaign, mp, whatever.

Much love HaloGAF <3

GhaleonEB said:
Were you A) an poor sportsman, B) a exacting hilarious if excessive revenge, C) dishing out what they deserved, or D) all of the above?

Hypothetically.

I choose B with an emphasis on hilarious.

Tunavi · Mar 18, 2011

Wow. The Skybox of condemned was worth the 800 points by itself. Spectacular.

Lingitiz · Mar 18, 2011

Tunavi said:
Wow. The Skybox of condemned was worth the 800 points by itself. Spectacular.

Yeah i don't know if its just me but everything about Condemned/Highlands absolutely destroys anything in vanilla Reach visually.

HiredN00bs · Mar 18, 2011

GhaleonEB said:
So, Bungie has tweaked the Firefight playlists. Seems that Unearthed will come up as the first option in Score Attack now - or it did the two games I played just now - and there are three voting rounds in Limited (not sure of Arcade, but it might). So, thanks guy. Much appreciated.

Got Unearthed in Limited a while ago.

A hypothetical situation for you.

Let's say, hypothetically, that you didn't run for the Warthog at the start of the match because you knew others would, so you roll around with the DMR while two dudes in a party cavort about in the 'Hog. And let's say they're 1) not very good and 2) not good team mates, because they're just driving everywhere. But they still 'splode lots of guys. And then they die after a few Waves.

And then, hypothetically, at the start of the next Round you figure it's your turn in the 'Hog for a bit since they had it last time and it's your first game on Limited on the map, so you position yourself near it at respawn and hop in the driver seat, and make a friendly tap of the horn for a gunner. And instead of hopping in, these two hypothetical guys in party chat stand outside of the Warthog meleeing you and tossing grenades and shooting and doing everything they can to say, no, you may not have a turn in the Warthog, it's all theirs, so there.

Now let's say you decide they're dicks and hop out of the Rocket Hog to let them drive away in it. But as they're doing so, you use your newly recharged Target Locator on their vehicle as it drives into the distance, and - hypothetically - laugh as you see the explosion in the distance. So there.

And then these guys spend the next six or seven minutes - the entire duration of the rest of the game, shooting, tossing grenades, punching you - etc. - instead of killing enemies as retribution for your hypothetical retribution. So you take to leading them into hilarious traps like buzzing past the drop pod with the four FRG Grunts, knowing they're so focused on you they will - hypothetically - get toasted by them. And they do!

And then you're the last man standing, have an epic final stand, get the medal and then die before they can respawn, ending the game. (Unintentionally.)

Were you A) an poor sportsman, B) a exacting hilarious if excessive revenge, C) dishing out what they deserved, or D) all of the above?

Hypothetically.

B and C

Tunavi · Mar 18, 2011

Flipyap · Mar 18, 2011

GhaleonEB said:
Got Unearthed in Limited a while ago.

A hypothetical situation for you. [coolstorybro][/coolstorybro]

I had something similar happen to me yesterday. Matchmaking also gave me only two dudes, but I got Unearthed, so I was extremely excited, felt like Christmas. and of course there had to be a catch.
Took the hog, drove up to the first one... not interested. Well, okay, drove up the the other one, he jumps in, I drive through the middle, he takes a minute to shoot some Jackals. Well, okay, maybe he didn't see them, that happens. I drive around for a bit, Phantoms come, so I go in their direction, guy fires one round of rockets and then...

BAIL OUT!

I still don't understand this stunt.
Tried going back for him, but by then Covenant started popping out and it didn't end well for me. Dudes didn't last one round, hopefully I'll have better luck when I get Unearthed next, sometime by 2015.

Crucio · Mar 18, 2011

That was a good burn Gal. Hehe, I'd pick C. Hahaha. Hypothetically.

Sikamikanico · Mar 18, 2011

Definitely C).

So who's around for some Halo this weekend? I'm going to try and get online for Saturday night customs, but I can't make any guaruntees.

xxjuicesxx · Mar 18, 2011

What the hell is that window at Sniper 1 in Ash55's Tempest-Lockout remake?

Why?

Slightly Live · Mar 18, 2011

Got Unearthed three games in a row in Arcade last night.

Sikamikanico · Mar 18, 2011

xxjuicesxx said:
What the hell is that window at Sniper 1 in Ash55's Tempest-Lockout remake?

Why?

I think he's got rid of that, must be an older version. Check his fileshare.

EDIT: At last! Begone, Junior status!

Blueblur1 · Mar 18, 2011

Loving the new maps. Wish I had more time to play. :/

Barrow Roll · Mar 18, 2011

I'm just gonna go ahead and echo the sentiments on over-abundance of power weapons on the new maps. I feel like I almost always have rockets on me in Highlands. Same for sniper on Condemned. Both are fantastic maps, but like pretty much everything else in Reach they just need to be tweaked a bit.

JonCha · Mar 18, 2011

Sikamikanico said:
Definitely C).

So who's around for some Halo this weekend? I'm going to try and get online for Saturday night customs, but I can't make any guaruntees.

Will be around on the weekend so if people are up for doing some customs, I'm game.

Shake Appeal · Mar 18, 2011

People who have the maps: is the new FF map in Score Attack?

i.e. would I ever get to play it online?

squidhands · Mar 18, 2011

Botolf said:
I also wouldn't object to Emile being excised from the game entirely, with Jun going in the place of Jorge, and Jorge in the place of Emile.

I might write something of an addendum for the review, I've been having more thoughts percolating in my brain about characters and some potential missed opportunities. In a nutshell, while Carter was the de jure leader of Noble team, Jorge seemed something like a fatherly figure in his interactions with civilians and his fellow Spartans.

Think about all of the major events of the game in this light. Jorge survives until the end, but not only that, he endures what is tantamount to the death of his children. He has to live with the burden of being their protector, yet failing at every turn to save them. In the end, he redeems himself. I think a small speaking scene at the mass driver would tie things up quite nicely. With Noble 6's help the Autumn gets away, but the more personal accomplishment belongs to Jorge. He gives everything to see the last of his children safe, even if it's only for the next little while.

Wow, that's awesome. I was affected most by Jorge's sacrifice, and was really disappointed that he left the game so soon. Having Emile as your escort in the final mission was pretty much worthless; I would much rather have Jorge by my side at the end. What you say makes much more sense; Spartan-II's were supposed to be a much heartier group anyway. Love it.

GhaleonEB said:
A hypothetical situation for you.

Definitely B. I'd love to watch a hypothetical match like that. Glad to hear that Unearthed is starting to show up more. Too much SXSW for me this week; haven't had much time to play.

Flipyap · Mar 18, 2011

Shake Appeal said:
People who have the maps: is the new FF map in Score Attack?

i.e. would I ever get to play it online?

It's in every Firefight playlist. Getting it requires a miracle in most.

Slightly Live · Mar 18, 2011

Flipyap said:
It's in every Firefight playlist. Getting it requires a miracle in most.

I get it first choice every time in FF Arcade and Score Attack. =)

Flipyap · Mar 18, 2011

Dani said:
I get it first choice every time in FF Arcade and Score Attack. =)

:O
Are you a wizard?

Slightly Live · Mar 18, 2011

Flipyap said:
:O
Are you a wizard?

I am dancer.

equil · Mar 18, 2011

I got unearthed on my first score attack game yesterday aswell.

Devin Olsen · Mar 18, 2011

You guys may have seen this before, but it was new for me.

Blame Halo 3

Shake Appeal · Mar 18, 2011

So it's rigged to come up, then, at least for the next while? Good to know.

Flipyap · Mar 18, 2011

Woah, we now get to vote three times in Firefight Limited?

Blue Ninja · Mar 18, 2011

Devin Olsen said:
You guys may have seen this before, but it was new for me.

Blame Halo 3

There's even a Halo: Reach version of it, by the same guy.

A certain girl got a good laugh out of the 'Halo 3' one a few years ago.

The Librarian · Mar 18, 2011

So Unearthed in Score Attack has been fixed? Excellent!

Blue Ninja · Mar 18, 2011

Flipyap said:
Woah, we now get to vote three times in Firefight Limited?

Arcade too. It's glorious.

OuterWorldVoice said:
I hope 343 does a sequel to Onyx where some of this stuff is explained.

So the stuff you said in the Cryptum thread was referring to the Ghosts of Onyx-sequel... Frankie, I have only this to say to you.

O D I N · Mar 18, 2011

GhaleonEB said:
So, Bungie has tweaked the Firefight playlists. Seems that Unearthed will come up as the first option in Score Attack now - or it did the two games I played just now - and there are three voting rounds in Limited (not sure of Arcade, but it might). So, thanks guy. Much appreciated.

Got Unearthed in Limited a while ago.

A hypothetical situation for you.

Let's say, hypothetically, that you didn't run for the Warthog at the start of the match because you knew others would, so you roll around with the DMR while two dudes in a party cavort about in the 'Hog. And let's say they're 1) not very good and 2) not good team mates, because they're just driving everywhere. But they still 'splode lots of guys. And then they die after a few Waves.

And then, hypothetically, at the start of the next Round you figure it's your turn in the 'Hog for a bit since they had it last time and it's your first game on Limited on the map, so you position yourself near it at respawn and hop in the driver seat, and make a friendly tap of the horn for a gunner. And instead of hopping in, these two hypothetical guys in party chat stand outside of the Warthog meleeing you and tossing grenades and shooting and doing everything they can to say, no, you may not have a turn in the Warthog, it's all theirs, so there.

Now let's say you decide they're dicks and hop out of the Rocket Hog to let them drive away in it. But as they're doing so, you use your newly recharged Target Locator on their vehicle as it drives into the distance, and - hypothetically - laugh as you see the explosion in the distance. So there.

And then these guys spend the next six or seven minutes - the entire duration of the rest of the game, shooting, tossing grenades, punching you - etc. - instead of killing enemies as retribution for your hypothetical retribution. So you take to leading them into hilarious traps like buzzing past the drop pod with the four FRG Grunts, knowing they're so focused on you they will - hypothetically - get toasted by them. And they do!

And then you're the last man standing, have an epic final stand, get the medal and then die before they can respawn, ending the game. (Unintentionally.)

Were you A) an poor sportsman, B) a exacting hilarious if excessive revenge, C) dishing out what they deserved, or D) all of the above?

Hypothetically.

Can you upload the game to your file share? I would very much like to watch this while I eat breakfast.

Flipyap · Mar 18, 2011

Dani said:
I am dancer.

Oh, but you went in with a full party. That's not surprising at all.

LosDaddie · Mar 18, 2011

Dani said:
I get it first choice every time in FF Arcade and Score Attack. =)

Nice. That pretty much decides it for me. I mean, I was going to buy the maps eventually anyway, but I think I'll just go ahead and get them tonight....I think

Anybody on HaloGAF going to play Reach tonight?

MrBig · Mar 18, 2011

LosDaddie said:
Anybody on HaloGAF going to play Reach tonight?

I'd like to get some people to play unearthed limited and arcade. Only played it once in score attack so far. The lack of a chain hog disturbs me but it seems great.

Also customs if we get enough people.

wwm0nkey · Mar 18, 2011

neoism said:
got another link to the RvB trailer ? :3

I think the direct feed official one hits April 1st

Hey You · Mar 18, 2011

I went into Score Attack yesterday for the challenges, and 4/5 times Unearthed was the first option. However, the first two times I voted for it, it wouldn't load the map. It didn't do a load failure or anything, just didn't do anything. After a few mins, I restarted my xbox and tried again. No luck.

Anyone else not able get Unearthed to load when voted for?

Pennybags · Mar 18, 2011

MrBig said:
I'd like to get some people to play unearthed limited and arcade. Only played it once in score attack so far. The lack of a chain hog disturbs me but it seems great.

Also customs if we get enough people.

I definitely wouldn't mind playing Unearthed, as I have yet to play a "real" game on it, just solo.

Edit: Forgot about how bad latency is depending on proximity. US here.

Tunavi · Mar 18, 2011

Does someone wanna try and get unearthed with me right now?

MrBig · Mar 18, 2011

Tunavi said:
Does someone wanna try and get unearthed with me right now?

That's 3 people then. Send me a message. Waiting in the lobby now.

ElzarTheBam · Mar 18, 2011

I have put this on HBO, but i will shamelessly copy and paste it here, my thoughts on what i would like to see in terms of weapon placements on highlands (maybe you guys could try it for one of your custom nights?).

-Remove rocket launcher from both bases and put one slap bang in the middle of the island or pelican, there needs to be reason to promote battle there, as of now no one bothers with the grenade launcher that there is at the moment. Rockets should be on 180 second respawns with max two rockets.

-Replace the current version of the rocket launcher spawn, with grenade launchers, low ammo with 180 sec spawns.

-Now there is (always) a problem with shotguns and teleporters, being placed where they are, it promotes teleporter camping. However, putting shotguns anywhere in the map itself, would lead to the same results, why? It's a player mentality, the best bet would be to just remove them completely from the map. However, the shotgun in reach is a wonderful weapon, id hate to see that. So i propose placing them next to the flag where the sniper spawns now, great for someone defending that flag, again 180 sec respawn and low ammo.

-Now, to the snipers, i feel the best bet would be to take laser and plasma launcher out of play, and replace it with the sniper rifle, provides a bigger view for the sniper, yet he is more vulnrable from many sides staying there aka teleporters, steps etc. Again a longer respawn, but the current ammo is fine.

Everything else in terms of weapon placement is fine.

-This is a maybe but i would like to see two warthogs per base, perhaps a chain gun and gauss variant, and 1 ghost each side. The hogs should have a 120 sec respawn, just to give some room to breath for the infantry.

Thats all i can think of at the momemt, thanks for reading! Do you agree or disagree, what would you change?

A27_StarWolf · Mar 18, 2011

Hey, later tonight I should be on to forge our

TOP SECRET AWESOME MAP

witness · Mar 18, 2011

Oh shit they fixed unearthed for matchmaking! Awesome, will definitely play this evening after work and probably all weekend. Halfway through Major 3, Lt. Col. ho!

MrBig · Mar 18, 2011

A27_StarWolf said:
Hey, later tonight I should be on to forge our

TOP SECRET AWESOME MAP

y u no do now

The Librarian · Mar 18, 2011

ElzarTheBam said:
-Replace the current version of the rocket launcher spawn, with grenade launchers, low ammo with 180 sec spawns.

No and no.

Striker · Mar 18, 2011

ElzarTheBam said:
I have put this on HBO, but i will shamelessly copy and paste it here, my thoughts on what i would like to see in terms of weapon placements on highlands (maybe you guys could try it for one of your custom nights?).

Thats all i can think of at the momemt, thanks for reading! Do you agree or disagree, what would you change?

I played Highlands for both CTF and Slayer, and it certainly does have issues with certain power weapons on the map, either in terms of ammo count, max count, or spawn timing. In terms of movement, I mostly agree.

- Remove Rockets from each base, place one in the pelican with just two shots, 180 respawn
- Place Pro Pipe in the bases at each locale the Rockets used to be, put a rather small clip, but at the top of my head I'm not sure what shots it would amount to
- Remove the Laser; without any vehicles outside chaingun Warthog or Ghosts being relevant in the map, it serves no purpose. If not a Sniper at the waterfall, I would just go ahead and put a Concussion rifle there
- Keep the plasma launcher at the middle structure opposite the waterfall tower, it is okay
- Reduce the sniper ammo, 8 shots seem formal

Now, will this happen soon? I hope... make this quick adjustment, release the info regarding the Classic Playlist, and dish away the sweetness for early April.

That said, I love the flag placement. It's in an ideal location. Now to get Assault in there. Multi-Bomb and Neutral Assault would be outstanding.

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