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[BlueTsunami]

:lol

You don't make sense either. For example, the animation in the Killzone cg was freaking incredible. If that was possible on the PS3 you don't think other developers would want to achieve the same results?

Thats the thing though. Its Guerilla that claimed those visuals, not the other devs. Its not fair to hold those devs to Killzone visuals. Same thing with anything on the Xbox360. If you want to finally claim that its impossible...wait till Killzone 2 is released.

 

[Fishie flop oog]

You mean other insiders... LIKE YOU ARE? :lol

No like Jevons or JohnTV, or Justin or whatever.

I already gave my oppinion, its a nice read.

 

[MassiveAttack]

Reads suspiciously like the Edge article in the latest issue and strangely akin to an artichoke. Peel away all the layers and you're left with... well, not much.

Move the hell on.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Uh... They didn't use the boomerang, so how can they comment on it?

Any X360 developers in here that can comment on when they received the first X360 controller in relation to the launch?

 

[PhoenixDark]

Thank you very much, but I'll wait until E3.

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

but want to add how disappointed I am. You guys are usually above this type of empty, incendiary fanboy-bait bullshit.

If the article said, "OMG PS3? MORE LIKE PS9! WELCOME TO THE FUTURE! MS AM CRY IN THE PAST TOTAL!" GAFers would give this the AOTY award.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Shouldn't the subject be "Hands-On with a PlayStation 3 devkit" ...

 

[Fishie flop oog]

Freelancers are 'insidurs' too :lol

I get to play with monkeys and actually get paid for it.

 

[Drinky Crow]

i think all of us fanboys can come together and agree on ONE thing

chibi-robo is a fucking piece of shit

 

[Kleegamefan]

This thread is on FIYAH!!!!

 

[sonycowboy]

Did people really expect the PS3 to blow the X360 away visually? The hardware stats are just too close.

This is also why I think a Fall 2006 $299 price is possible.

Looking at 360 games coming out like Fight Night, GRAW, Oblivion, imagine what developers will be doing on PS3/X360 in 2008.

You really are a flip flopper Bob. :lol

Didn't I just read you saying the PS3 will absolutely crush the 360. Get back on the medication man!

 

[SolidSnakex]

Not that I'm sure I even believe anything in the article. Sounds a bit 'fishy'.

Well it can't be by him since according to him MGS4 isn't impressive, and that article praises how MGS4 looks...well unless...Nah they wouldn't do that..

 

[Speevy]

If you need a console to be obviously incapable of the PS3's visuals in every instance, there will be one. It's not the Xbox 360. MS built ya a good ship.

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

Thats the thing though. Its Guerilla that claimed those visuals, not the other devs. Its not fair to hold those devs to Killzone visuals. Same thing with anything on the Xbox360. If you want to finally claim that its impossible...wait till Killzone 2 is released.

Yeah, it isn't fair to hold anyone besides Guerilla accountable. Curious to see what kind of product they actually ship.

Oh, don't forget MotorStorm also

 

[monkeymagic]

I get to play with monkeys and actually get paid for it.

Wow you get paid - a novel concept indeed.

 

[Goreomedy]

If the article said, "OMG PS3? MORE LIKE PS9! WELCOME TO THE FUTURE! MS AM CRY IN THE PAST TOTAL!" GAFers would give this the AOTY award.

HANDS ON WITH PLAYSTATION 3!

Only, we haven't held the controller, can't disclose any details about the games or the devs, so there's no way to grade what the final products could be. How early in development are these titles? We aint telling. But what we can say, is right now, they are on par with DOA4 and Gears of War. Not that there's a difference between those two.

Enjoy!

 

[Fishie flop oog]

What I get from this is that PS3 and X360 are same gen machines but that the PS3 has the edge, a few more polies and more effects simultanously then is possible on the 360.
So yeah it does state that PS3 is superio to X360, just not a generational leap like some people were claiming.

 

[sprsk]

HANDS ON WITH PLAYSTATION 3!

Only, we haven't held the controller, can't disclose any details about the games or the devs, so there's no way to grade what the final products could be. How early in development are these titles? We aint telling. But what we can say, is right now, they are on par with DOA4 and Gears of War. Not that there's a difference between those two.

Enjoy!

and games will look like fifth phantom saga

 

[Vennt]

Wow you get paid - a novel concept indeed.

Concentrate on the article/topic, and not other posters, and you may make it through this topic without issue.

Same goes for everyone else.

 

[xexex]

PS3 controller specifics are "nothing we need to be concerned about as developers," explains the techie.

Zuh?

everyone at Nintendo working on Revolution would have a field-day with that statement :lol

 

[Bebpo]

i think all of us fanboys can come together and agree on ONE thing

chibi-robo is a fucking piece of shit

Actually I can't agree with this. Chibi-robo is good fun and a cute little 8/10 game. Go play it with your family!

 

[TheJollyCorner]

this was the only part of this questionable article that made sense to me:

the overall visual difference it makes will depend a lot on the developer's skill, and how much time and money the publisher spends on a game

I don't give a shit if it's two or twenty times more powerful than TreeSitty... hell, I don't even care if it's the same- I want to see what developers like Konami, Square, Capcom, *cough*Namco*cough*, Ueda's team, etc. do with the hardware.
XBox was more powerful than PS2, but the PS2 still saw some amazingly impressive games from the usual suspects listed above.

Show me the games!

 

[Jaf]

Does anyone out there think that a machine with essentially the same technology generation (within 6 months) of a 360 and at a similar price point is going to have some magical undiscovered double processing power.

Actutally? Yes, I think most Sony fanboys thought PS3 would destroy the 360.

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

HANDS ON WITH PLAYSTATION 3!

Only, we haven't held the controller, can't disclose any details about the games or the devs, so there's no way to grade what the final products could be. How early in development are these titles? We aint telling. But what we can say, is right now, they are on par with DOA4 and Gears of War. Not that there's a difference between those two.

Enjoy!

Like I said, if they said it blew the 360 out of the water none of the shit you listed would matter. You would be eating it up.

 

[monkeymagic]

just not a generational leap like some people were claiming.

I agree.

It sounds like the leap between Dreamcast and XBox.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Like I said, if they said it blew the 360 out of the water none of the shit you listed would matter. You would be eating it up.

And you'd be saying they were a liar. Funny how that works.

 

[Drinky Crow]

cursory experiences with alpha software running on dev kits leads to ridiculous comparisons with existing 360 hardware and extrapolations of PS3 potential!

fandom aside, do you slack-jawed syphilis-added tools not understand just how silly it for Kikizo's slaphappy Segaphiles to draw any sort of conclusions re: PS3 vs. 360, or to make any sort of determination what the PS3's hardware potential is?

Hell, I doubt they even have any idea how to measure the 360's hardware potential.

 

[DECK'ARD]

What I get from this is that PS3 and X360 are same gen machines but that the PS3 has the edge, a few more polies and more effects simultanously then is possible on the 360.
So yeah it does state that PS3 is superio to X360, just not a generational leap like some people were claiming.

What I get from this is not much at all.

 

[Striek]

Pretty interesting if erring on tame.

Actutally? Yes, I think most Sony fanboys thought PS3 would destroy the 360.

Think, not thought.

 

[xexex]

We expect the visual quality and vivid realism you get from pre-rendered special effects in movies, right now, in realtime on PS3, because that's what has been promised.

what a motherload of steaming bull, whoever promises that. :lol

Now that we've played it, have they reached that goal? Really reached it? The short answer is no, of course not

thankfully Kikizo brings some sanity back to the table.

 

[Bebpo]

I agree.

It sounds like the leap between Dreamcast and XBox.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

chibi-robo is a fucking piece of shit

WHAT?! WHAT?! WHAT?!

Castellang! Hows can u h8 chibi-robo?! Are you saying ur not small 2?

Chibi Robo is a GC game I'd like to try. I wonder how it stacks up to other . . . Small Games like Mr. Mosquito.

As for Kikizo - they're blowing hard for PR this week.

Hell, I doubt they even have any idea how to measure the 360's hardware potential.

I reckon an inch worm is sufficient in most cases.

 

[Drinky Crow]

lotsa strawmen at this party

 

[Cerebral Palsy]

And you'd be saying they were a liar. Funny how that works.

Nah, I expect the PS3 to have the graphical edge. I'm just not retarded enough to expect a next-gen leap in only a few months after the 360 release.

 

[Vennt]

cursory experiences with alpha software running on dev kits leads to ridiculous comparisons with existing 360 hardware and extrapolations of PS3 potential!

fandom aside, do you slack-jawed syphilis-added tools not understand just how silly it for Kikizo's slaphappy Segaphiles to draw any sort of conclusions?

That's true enough, but you gotta admit they've got the smarts when it comes to timing such an article when frothing is reaching maximum mouth-dribble threshold, for maximum hit-count

 

[GhaleonEB]

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Is there anyone in here defending Sony that worked on a PS3 dev kit today? If so, yes or no, is this article more than a month old based on your experiences?

 

[Vibri]

The article is a sham.

Sorry, but let's look at the evidence? The site is run by a notorious SEGA fanboy, who was here just yesterday spouting off about boohoo his website is not taken seriously how mags like EGM are all going to be dead soon due to some NEW WORLD ORDER DOMINATION by web fansites. Oookay.

And today we have this shifty "world first hands on", apparently before any other publication in the global media, of the most important consumer electronics device probably of the decade. Uh-huh. :lol

Either it's entirely fake, it's best case, it's a report of a dev kit game (which mags like GI have been previewing for months with but actual NAMED GAMES like the new MoH) and blown entirely out of proportion as some giant world scoop.

Frustrated that you're not taken as seriously as magazines, Kikizo? Maybe start by looking why you're not even close to being taken seriously as a website first.

 

[GhaleonEB]

The article is a sham.

Sorry, but let's look at the evidence? The site is run by a notorious SEGA fanboy, who was just here yesterday spouting off about his site is not taken seriously and how mags like EGM are all going to be dead soon due to some NEW WORLD ORDER DOMINATION by web fansites. Oookay.

And today we have this shifty "world first hands on", apparently before any other publication in the global media, of the most important consumer electronics device probably of the decade. Uh-huh. :lol

Either it's entirely fake, it's best case, it's a report of a dev kit game (which mags like GI have been previewing for months with but actual NAMED GAMES like the new MoH) and blown entirely out of proportion as some giant world scoop.

Frustrated that you're not taken as seriously as magazines, Kikizo? Maybe start by looking why you're not even close to being taken seriously as a website first.

That was way harsh. The site is pretty good. Then again, I used to be the main writer for Segaweb.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

The article is a sham.

Sorry, but let's look at the evidence? The site is run by a notorious SEGA fanboy, who was just here yesterday spouting off about his site is not taken seriously and how mags like EGM are all going to be dead soon due to some NEW WORLD ORDER DOMINATION by web fansites. Oookay.

And today we have this shifty "world first hands on", apparently before any other publication in the global media, of the most important consumer electronics device probably of the decade. Uh-huh. :lol

Either it's entirely fake, it's best case, it's a report of a dev kit game (which mags like GI have been previewing for months with but actual NAMED GAMES like the new MoH) and blown entirely out of proportion as some giant world scoop.

Frustrated that you're not taken as seriously as magazines, Kikizo? Maybe start by looking why you're not even close to being taken seriously as a website first.

Sony could sue them if this is a sham, yes?

 

[Bluemercury]

So if he was refering the PS3 as the second coming would he be more credible???

 

[3rdman]

BTW, Ninja Theory dudes over at B3D (Deano, nAo, DeanA) have begun to drop hints about the recent quality of HS.....but I can't find it.....anyone have a link?

Yeah, he said the game is running in 720p and that the demo is "achievable" on the hardware he is working on...whatever that means.

 

[Ryudo]

what a motherload of steaming bull, whoever promises that. :lol





thankfully Kikizo brings some sanity back to the table.

That fat guy who runs the game division from sony said it.

 

[Speevy]

If the article's conclusions aren't credible and offer no evidence on which to base a discussion, does that make your (the GAF poster) original preconception somehow more credible?

 

[Striek]

Is there anyone in here defending Sony that worked on a PS3 dev kit today? If so, yes or no, is this article more than a month old based on your experiences?

Defending Sony?

What?

Against an article that says PS3 is more powerful? Although like most media Kikizo has tried to be even-handed my impression was DC<>PS2. Huge. The difference will be noticeable and revealing.

 

[SolidSnakex]

That fat guy who runs the game division from sony said it.

"I'm fat?"

 

[Drinky Crow]

it's not fake per se, but what it *is* at best is a who's who of which developers are friendly with said Sega fanboy, largely because they share the same opinion re PS3/360, and who have previously offered these same opinions on Beyond3D (where they were at least challenged by contrary observations from other devs).

Distilled, the article is a lamely-screed lightweight tour of three offices where said co-fans work, punctuated by massive blocks of inexpert text positing silly and disingenuous hardware comparisons unsubstantiated by fact, context, or qualified observation.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Integrated into an imposing tower set-up, the PS3 development kit is playable using pretty much any standard USB controller, but developers are designing games with the familiar DualShock 2 controls in mind. PS3 controller specifics are "nothing we need to be concerned about as developers," explains the techie.

So that would mean it's not the final reference devkit then wouldn't it? Which is rack-mounted and includes RSX.

So not a final devkit, no RSX, and an article that could be months old ... not really a world-first.

 

[Vibri]

In other words Drinky, a total waste of time. Except to try and gain some cheap web hits.

When will Euro sites grow up?

 

[Shompola]

Sounds like the difference between the sytems is negliable... I am not surprised really.