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Harrison Ford will play Han Solo in STAR WARS: EPISODE VII
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Bobby Roberts
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Why would you take pleasure in seeing something fail?
SCULLIBUNDO
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As a Terminator man myself, I can see where he's coming from.
Voice of Reason
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Shia would be a superb Skywalker. Hope its him.
Anticitizen One
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((((((
I'm 99% sure all he/she means is that it will be an original story not based on an existing story. Doesn't mean they are disregarding the EU. The only fact is that it will be a new story but its the writers own conjecture that they will totally ignore the books/comics/games which is extremely doubtful since both Lucas and Iger have said otherwise.
Anticitizen One
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They never said this. Oh my God people in here have serious reading comprehension problems.
It's called reading between the lines. the EU will get steamrolled over with the new movies and it will be glorious.
Bobby Roberts
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Lucas isn't in any semblance of control and Iger isn't calling any creative shots, Kathleen Kennedy is. The books/comics/games are likely going to be fodder for spinoffs & games. You don't pay 4 billion and poach JJ Abrams just so you can regurgitate Dark Empire by Rick Veitch.
Salvor.Hardin
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Another vote for Shia as a young cocky Han Solo.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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He has some pretty sweet lightsaber moves as we've seen.
Bobby Roberts
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Man stop DOING this. Got me grabbing at my sweater vest like Fred Sanford.
Bobby Roberts
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Salvor.Hardin
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Who do you propose?
It's highly unlikely he's going to be little-known. That's just not the way Disney works.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'll post what the link that you asked for says again, even though it's obviously everybody else that has reading comprehension problems.
http://www.eonline.com/article?id=358685
This is where we illiterate folk are having trouble believing it will have anything to do with the EU. Help us, Anticitizen One! You're our only hope.
Anticitizen One
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*facepalm*
This isn't a debate on wether the trilogy will be an adaption of an existing storyline we already know that's not the case (and common sense could of told you that anyway) the debate is wether it will use established EU canon and characters which I am saying it will to an extent just like George Lucas did with the prequels and special editions. Plus Bob Iger, Kennedy's fucking boss, already said they bought the franchise so they could have access to all the characters and time periods of the SW universe including the movies, books, games, etc. That doesn't mean we are getting a Kir Kanos movie right away. The first wave will be brand new stories + spinoffs of established characters but will EU stories and characters be referenced in these films? Absolutely.
Bobby Roberts
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Kennedy. Not Disney. Disney's bankrolling, but Kennedy's in creative control, much in the same way Disney bankrolls Marvel, but Feige is in control over there. And not too many people knew who the fuck Chris Hemsworth was before he was cast as Thor, for example.
Anticitizen One said:
Keep doing that.
Anticitizen One
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But that is not coming from Lucasfilm thats the writer jumping the gun. Also for all we know the fucking writer just means it's not going to be based on any existing story. ON TOP OF THAT, it's only a rumor
All he/she means is that Episode 7-9 are not adaptions it will be new story/concept. Which is common sense.
Messypandas
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The fact is we know fuck all about anything and people getting mad anyway
Salvor.Hardin
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That's because nobody knew who the fuck Thor was before Hemsworth got the role. In any case, Marvel was in charge of that hiring, not Disney.
You might have a point about Kennedy, but Disney didn't invest 4 billion bucks to hand over a character franchise like Han Solo to a relative nobody actor.
Thug Waffle
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I think people are always going to at least wonder what happened to Luke, Han, and Leia post-ROTJ, so getting it out of the way early seems like a good idea. If we waited too long, the actors might be deceased and their replacements wouldn't really "feel right." Personally, I don't really care to see any of them in this next film, but better sooner than later, I suppose. JJ Abrams did an alright job with Nimoy in Star Trek (2009), so I think he'll be able to handle this.
Now, it's this goddamn Yoda origin story that's got me all fussy. The mystery surrounding Yoda is what makes him so fucking cool. I don't want to know where he came from, what he is, and where the rest of his race is. I mean, I do, but they should never, ever tell me.
Now, it's this goddamn Yoda origin story that's got me all fussy. The mystery surrounding Yoda is what makes him so fucking cool. I don't want to know where he came from, what he is, and where the rest of his race is. I mean, I do, but they should never, ever tell me.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yes, these are valid points. It could be the writer jumping the gun and not accurately reflecting what their sources have told them. Their sources might also be bullshit. However, this is where the idea that the EU has been entirely ruled out comes from and it is not unreasonable to come to that conclusion upon reading that article. Believing it or not is one thing, but not understanding how people could come to that conclusion upon reading those very clear words is to be willfully obtuse.
Bobby Roberts
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Maybe - it makes sense, conventional wisdom and all - but Kennedy has some leeway to cast a total nobody when the ORIGINAL Han Solo is coming back to reprise the role in the main series, too. If you got the main guy, it probably makes even MORE sense to go after a nobody so it's easier to overwrite "young harrison ford" on the kid, as opposed to someone already well-known.
Clearly, Jennifer Lawrence is the only option to play Han Solo.
http://screencrush.com/jennifer-law...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_44045
http://screencrush.com/jennifer-law...tm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_44045
Anticitizen One
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When you think about it though. Episode 7 more than likely takes place 30-40 years after ROTJ so it takes place after the entire EU (except Legacy which takes place in the FAR future). Zahn even said he was hired to write the Thrawn trilogy to tell the story of what happened to Luke, Han, and Leia between ROTJ and Episode 7 since Lucas wouldn't have time for that. We also know the early drafts of both the Thrawn trilogy and dark empire were rejected because Lucas wanted them to better mesh with what he had in mind for the ST.
DiipuSurotu
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The only thing worse would be casting Ewan McGregor as Force Ghost Ben Kenobi in Ep. 7.
Dice
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I thought Ewan really came into the role over the 3 films and would really work out as time goes on. I posted this in another thread but look.
Fairly recent Ewan:
Ben vs Obi
That's legit. I guess if you have a problem with Ewan as an actor, that's different, but I don't see why you would. I think he has proven himself well enough with other films and with a good director he could be a good Ben.
Anticitizen One
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Ewan said he wants to do a stand alone Obi Wan film and I hope he gets his chance. I hope they finally explain why he calls himself Ben because that was never mentioned in the prequels.
DiipuSurotu
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Yeah I didn't mean to say he's a bad actor. However it would really make my head hurt to see an actor from the prequels reprising his role in the sequel trilogy :s
PaulExcellent
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I thought Ewan really came into the role over the 3 films and would really work out as time goes on. I posted this in another thread but look.
Fairly recent Ewan:
Ben vs Obi
That's legit. I guess if you have a problem with Ewan as an actor, that's different, but I don't see why you would. I think he has proven himself well enough with other films and with a good director he could be a good Ben.
Woah. That's really freaking awesome.
Seriously. He should definitely be Ben in Episode 7.
captainwhat
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Chris Pine as Skywalker
What. He's had 19 roles since he reprised his role for a Indy short in 1995. One of them was Indiana Jones 4. Even if does nothing beyond those currently on IMDB, with Star Wars, he'd have reprised 2 times out of 20.
Messypandas
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Ewan was fucking atrocious as Obi-Wan, as was everyone. Because they couldn't emote a damn under George. Hearing him half heart his lines was devastating "You were the chosen one". Young Obi shouldn't have been a hoighty toighty prick anyway, he should be wise, world-weary and a little bit of a punk.
TDLink
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Ewan McGregor is a good actor and I am confident that the problems with Obi-Wan in the prequels really weren't his fault. Even with the issues he was one of the best parts of those films. I would be fine with seeing him in the Universe again via the standalone films. He really shouldn't be in the new trilogy though. Luke seeing the force ghosts at the end of ROTJ is enough closure on those characters and I would be disappointed if they go in the "Luke talking to Ghosts all the time" direction in these new movies.
I didn't mean it as imdb researched comment. It is a subjective feeling of what I feel like he does nowadays.
But looking at imdb now, he really is up to a lot of things, wonder why they are not well known (not enough for me to notice at least).
I like him as an actor though, hence my complaint.
Dice
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It's so weird hearing this. I thought he was the best thing in Ep 1-3, if not the only really good thing. Some lines suffered from the incredibly shitty direction/presentation, but he handled it better than the other actors. Through the trilogy he gave us the primary on-film example of what a Jedi is and how they function in the galaxy. Our only other example is Qui-Gon, but that was more "Jedi in a bind" than typical functions and freedoms. I also think he did clearly grow wiser and more weary as the films progressed.
As far as I am concerned, he earned the right to carry the role if they ever want to bring up Kenobi again, and I would welcome a movie centered around him with good direction for once. The movies were bad, but there was much about them that I wanted to like, and he is the one thing I can remember fondly in the context of those stories and fool myself into remembering the rest as being as good as his parts. I definitely think it would be a bad idea to bring someone else in to play the character. Either let it be Ewan or don't bring him up.
I don't even keep tabs on him and I know he's been up doing stuff. Hell, he's half the reason I watched Cowboys & Aliens.
He might have been the best thing about Ep 1-3, but he was still awful, so I can't really give him much credit there. And he certainly hasn't earned the right to carry the role; Alex Guinness is Obi-Wan. He's dead now, so let's not piss on the iconic performance any further now.
So in that respect, I agree that they shouldn't bring him up though. We've had enough Jedi stories for once. If George wasn't going to tell us any meaningful about Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship, then it's probably best to just let that lie because he's written himself into a corner there. Of the spinoff proposals, Boba Fett is definitely the least offensive. The more major the character, the more pointless and potentially damaging they become. Yoda doesn't need a prequel and with Han or Obi-Wan, we'll just get to the point where the movies will actively undo the character that we've come to love in the original trilogy.
Dice
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Sorry I just can't take to that ultra reverent attitude toward the franchise. It shouldn't be taken that seriously. My only issue with 7 being soon in the timeline after Ep 6 was that the events that happened there were the most meaningful events in the entire Star Wars timeline, so anything beyond should be more removed to actually retain their status as effective victories over evil forces.
Overall, however, I think Star Wars needs to be expanded and diluted from these fanboy delusions of being some untouchable iconic masterwork pieces. If the franchise gets expanded out into tons of different incarnations and projects like Star Trek has, that would be the absolute best thing for it. I do not think that Ewan playing Kenobi is in any way fucking with the work Alex Guinness did with the character. I just completely disagree with that way of looking at fantasy roles and actors relation to them.
Overall, however, I think Star Wars needs to be expanded and diluted from these fanboy delusions of being some untouchable iconic masterwork pieces. If the franchise gets expanded out into tons of different incarnations and projects like Star Trek has, that would be the absolute best thing for it. I do not think that Ewan playing Kenobi is in any way fucking with the work Alex Guinness did with the character. I just completely disagree with that way of looking at fantasy roles and actors relation to them.
I disagree. I thought Ewen did a great job as Obi Wan. True, he didn't have much to work with in Phantom Menace, but he really came into his own in the other two movies. To today's generation, Ewen IS Obi Wan. Sir Alec was Obi Wan in only one film and did cameos in two other films.
Ewen should have a standalone film that takes place in between eps 3 and 4.
They are badly written, humorless, and like most Star Wars books, show a lack of understanding what made Star Wars so great.
CrunchyFrog
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Agreed. Ewan McGregor did solid acting in the prequels given the material he had to work with. That being said, though, Obi Wan's duty is done by the end of the end of the OT, and while using some of the old actors to give the series continuity into the new trilogy is a good idea, I don't want the movies to be leaning on them like a crutch (less is more). Thematically this is Luke's Republic and New Jedi Order to build, something he should be doing on his own.
Harry Potter
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Dan Radcliffe all the way.
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