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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

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.hacked said:
you guys need to chill the fuck out.

It is just a book.


It dosent bother me that someone spoiled it, but you have to remember alot of people have grownup with with these book, much like people would be pissed if they spoiled a movie someone had waited two yrs on would be pissed, Alot of folks have waited two yrs on this book.Like I said I more intrested in the character developemnt in the books so the spoiler dosnt bother me, but people have right to be pissed off, you have to respect that, and posting his email on a hacker site is going to far....
 
When you've read six other books spoiler free and have paid money for all including the new one, having the story is tantamount to having your wallet lit on fire.
 
You know who has to chill out people that what at 12 for this book. People say video games (example) are addicting and goes to your head. What about these books, I can bet at least a third of the people that waited until 12 to get this book will read it none stop and from what I have seen some of these kids actually do belive in all of this stuff and it does go to there head. I know its not bad as in having violence and stuff but its still not healthy.

Never read one book of harry poter in my life only a little (few chapthers) of the first and tossed it.
 
Straightballin said:
You know who has to chill out people that what at 12 for this book. People say video games (example) are addicting and goes to your head. What about these books, I can bet at least a third of the people that waited until 12 to get this book will read it none stop and from what I have seen some of these kids actually do belive in all of this stuff and it does go to there head. I know its not bad as in having violence and stuff but its still not healthy.

Never read one book of harry poter in my life only a little (few chapthers) of the first and tossed it.

still better than playing all those wanna be "thug" games.....

anyways i was at barnes and nobles last night and it WAS CRAZY. geez, lines were than anything i've seen and this was in brooklyn. i cant imagine what it must have been like in manhattan and other places.
 
boutrosinit said:
When you've read six other books spoiler free and have paid money for all including the new one, having the story is tantamount to having your wallet lit on fire.


I was going to try to reason with you, something like, doesn't the journey matter at all? Isn't it just as import to know why something happened as what happened?

But you might just be one of them Potter nuts, and I am afraid you'll sic your owl on me.
 
.hacked said:
I was going to try to reason with you, something like, doesn't the journey matter at all? Isn't it just as import to know why something happened as what happened?

But you might just be one of them Potter nuts, and I am afraid you'll sic your owl on me.

*Sics owl on .hacked and gives Hagrid his address, along with a tub of ass lube*

Seriously though, yes, the journey is important. However, knowing that someone is going to shit in your mouth at the end of the journey makes it somewhat less enjoyable to take.

Also, putting the spoiler arsehole's name on a hacker massageboard is NOT going too far IMO. The motherfucker needs to feel some serious consequence for his actions.
 
MrAngryFace said:
God damnit, if EVERYONE was so lucky as to have a book spoiler be a 'PROBLEM' for them. Shut the fuck up.

We're aware you're Mr. Walking Shell of Utmost Misery, but some people have few joys in their lives, and ruining them just isn't cool.
Go fucking make a thread about Arizona drivers.
 
MrAngryFace said:
Im sorry to challenge your way of life with Harry Potter and Friends! lolz shut up.

Hey man, fuck you. I don't read this stuff, but I have a few friends who are hard working mother fuckers, and with their free time, they may read some fucking books. And I know they'd be really pissed if someone ruined it for them.
But no, why don't you ignore that shit and hate like you are. Yeah, that has to be their only problem in life right? Coming from someone who seems to have it rough, you've got a lot of fucking nerve.
So keep up your lollerz fucking hate shit like you have been. Why not eh?
 
CAVEMEN WORKED WITH FIRE, ASTRONAUTS WENT TO THE MOON, ARMIES CLASHED FOR CENTURIES SO WE CAN WORK HARD AND ENJOY OUR HARRY POTTER SEEKING LIFE COMPLETION! hahahahaha
 
MrAngryFace said:
CAVEMEN WORKED WITH FIRE, ASTRONAUTS WENT TO THE MOON, ARMIES CLASHED FOR CENTURIES SO WE CAN WORK HARD AND ENJOY OUR HARRY POTTER SEEKING LIFE COMPLETION! hahahahaha

Hey, as long as you can sleep at night eh? :lol
 
Weren't the haters supposed to stay out of this thread?

My wife and I are still waiting on FedEx/UPS with our amazon.com order. The day is half way over! I could have gone to Books-A-Million or Hastings and picked it up by now.
 
Stopped by Toysrus today to scope out some sales, and I saw a huge stack of Harry Potter books. Must have been at least 400, and there was absolutely no one near them. So if you're having problems finding a book (doubt it), Toysrus would be the way to go :lol
 
Just finished the book... Rowling doesn't tie up everything as well as she did with her other books, but I suppose that paves the way for the final book. Though, it's a hell of a lot more exiting than the 5th.

Semi-spoilers...I don't want to post real spoilers, so I'll just comment on some random stuff...
Oh & btw, I haven't read through this thread...



Half-Blooded Prince was half-assed in this book. Well, not quite, but it wasn't as big as we made it out to be. Perhaps in the next book he'll play a bigger part... actually not just "perhaps," but most definitely.

IMHO, I though Harry's love interest this time around came out of nowhere. It was like... BAM, I've got feelings & pangs of jealousy oh noes...
& damn Ron and Hermione... get over it already

Poor Draco... I have hopes he'll turn to the light side, whether it be at the last minute or befriending Potter beforehand and helping in the war of LIGHT AND DARK...

As for the death, I think that like the last book, Rowling eases you into it. You hate for it to happen, but as you read you'll realize it's time for the character to pass away.

Exciting read overall. I was also at the Barnes & Nobles event, my friend who works there was kind enough to pre-order for me. We also had to get a number, and they called numbers 1-300, and it didn't matter if you were #1, what mattered was your place in line. So lucky for my friend and I, people were too caught up in their Wizarding robes & discussions to notice that we had cut in line. Despite the mess b&n was, I got in and out fairly quickly and easily =)
 
I don't know how or why people read it all at once. I got it today and I'll read maybe 4 chapters. I'll do the same for the next few days and draw out the greatness that is Harry Potter.

Anyhow, I've read 2 chapters and it's great so far.
FUCKING SNAPS
 
I just went down and bought a copy for my mother. With all the hooplah I might read it as well, but I have only read the first Harry Potter book.
 
I finished it, and... hrm... a little disappointed, I guess... long rant ahoy...

It starts well, I reckon, and ends very well. But in many ways it just doesn't match the others.

I liked the tone to the first chapter. It was different, amusing, introduces Scrimgeour well and gets Rowling's point across about Voldemort being so bad even the Muggles know it. Chapter 2 sets the book's plot in motion and shocks you both when you see Snape and when he agrees to the Unbreakable Vow. I had a feeling from the start Draco's job was to kill Dumbledore; once Snape made the vow I knew Dumbledore was a goner. It was a fantastic start.

From then though, the book slows, and the pacing feels very uneven. The books have always used the school structure to carry things along and mix up a variety of plot threads, but this time it felt off, and the plot strands not spread evenly. The Half-Blood Prince is a major player, always on Harry's mind during the beginning of his time at Hogwarts... then is barely mentioned for ages before resurfacing. Their hormones suddenly rage and Harry lusts after Ginny... then again it disappears for a while before he gets the girl.

There just isn't enough to carry the middle section of the book IMO other than the general life around Hogwarts -- lessons, friendships, Quidditch. You don't feel a strong sense of urgency to the mystery at hand as with the first four books, and there's nothing inherently wrong enough with the world that needs fixing (as with Umbridge in the fifth book). The only hint you get of Voldemort's reign of terror is a throwaway line at breakfast where they casually discuss whether anyone they know has been killed. That's the extent of it -- even when one of their friends is affected, you don't see it having any effect on life at school. The mystery of Draco's plot isn't much of one compared to the rest of the series. It boils down to Harry wailing HE'S UP TO SOMETHING I KNOW IT and everyone else shrugging their shoulders and saying either Harry's paranoid, Harry doesn't have proof, or it's all under control.

The Pensieve flashbacks fill the void, but not well enough. They don't really build to anything and are just colour to fill the background. A couple of these could easily have been cut. What you really miss are the lack of memorable new characters. Umbridge was a royal bitch, but that worked well. Slughorn wasn't -- in fact, no more than an hour after finishing the book I actually had to go look up his name again because I thought it was Slugworth. After a promising start Scrimgeour rather evaporated into stereotype. McLaggen was the best hope, but he disappears from the last half of the book.

On the other hand, the book then gathers steam for the ending. Once Harry discovers Snape was the spy listening to Trelawney, it kicks into high gear for the last hundred pages or so. Dumbledore's death particularly, when Snape gets up there and you actually get to see him show which side he's really on. I knew it was coming once he made the Unbreakable Vow -- but you're still a bit stunned that he did it. It's not just that Dumbledore died, but that Dumbledore was WRONG. The revelation that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince (which you could see coming, because who the hell else was that good at Potions?) also hit home, because it then put clearly into focus that this book was really all about Snape. Which it was.

It seems there is quite a lot left to do in Book Seven. Aside from offing Voldemort, the fates of Snape, Malfoy and Wormtail have to be wrapped up, presumably not in one climatic battle. It'll be even odder with Harry away from Hogwarts, supposedly travelling with Ron and Hermione to hunt down the Horcruxes... though I have a feeling he'll spend a lot of time there. Remember, most of the Horcruxes are artifacts of Hogwarts' founders -- where better to start looking than at the school? Still, the school year format has served the series well in general. It's kept the pace going and gives a good chronological sense to events. But she effectively abandoned it towards the end here (when exactly does Dumbledore's funeral take place?), so it'll be really odd without it in the last book.

This does mean Harry won't take his NEWTs, but what good are qualifications to a dead wizard? I now fully believe Harry will die at the end of the last book. His brief relationship with Ginny (who has developed into a fun enough companion character) confirmed this for me. I never saw how Harry would ever hook up with anyone but Ginny -- she was written for the sole purpose right from the start. My initial feeling was that they'd end up together, but now that they had their fling, Rowling's ticked off another box on the Things Harry Must Do Before He Dies box IMO.

And a final bit of speculation: Who is R.A.B.? A certain relative was mentioned again, apparently in passing, and the means of his death explained again. Rowling rarely slips stuff like this in by accident. Could the finder of Voldemort's Horcrux be Regulus Black? He was killed by Voldemort, after all...

Overall... I have to say this is probably my least favourite book in the series. It's early days and I'll re-read it in a few months before I can properly place it, but there aren't enough good moments or new characters to lift this above any of the others. Mind you, the series has changed so much that it's odd comparing (say) Book 6 to Book 2. And I feel that this book will look and feel much better once Book 7 is out, because this is really a giant set-up, revealing all the pieces before everything plays out in the end.
 
I ended up buying the book at Ralph's (supermarket) last night at 1:30AM, absolutely no line at all. :lol Another guy there had just come from B&N and couldn't believe they were selling it at a grocery store...
 
MrAngryFace said:
God damnit, if EVERYONE was so lucky as to have a book spoiler be a 'PROBLEM' for them. Shut the fuck up.

Get out of this thread pissflaps. No one wants your whiny, angry, troll ass in here.
 
The mediocrity is overwhelming.

I’ve read them all (except for the new one) and it’s descent, reads pretty quickly, but it’s nothing extraordinary…people are waiting in huge lines to fork over $30 for a Honda Civic of a book.
 
Was one of about 4000 reservations at my nearby (20 minutes walking) Barnes & Nobles in Brooklyn. Picked up my copy last night (Deluxe Edition) at the midnight Harry Potter Party B&N threw for the release of the book.

Was up all night reading it. Crashed for a few hours, got up again, and finished it today. Wow. Book 7 WILL NOT be what most of us probably expected.

The book was brilliant. Much better than Book 5, which I felt had pretty shoddy pacing when compared to most of the rest of the series. She really brought the series back to its roots in many ways, focusing so much on classes and lessons. Fantastic stuff.
 
blackwind said:
The mediocrity is overwhelming.

I’ve read them all (except for the new one) and it’s descent, reads pretty quickly, but it’s nothing extraordinary…people are waiting in huge lines to fork over $30 for a Honda Civic of a book.


It's a well told, interesting story with characters that are unique, interesting, and well conveyed. It's rare you find a book, much less a series with those traits.
 
Thanks to an amazing friend I got this book today (For free, no less :lol ). I couldn't read it at first because I was really hungry. By the time I finished eating my brother started playing the violin :lol Finalt started reading a few hours ago and got to page 105. I'll stop reading now because I'm really tired and it takes a while to finish a page (Maybe I sould keep reading so it'll last longer? :P).

I think it's going to be a great book. I should have reread them like I did with 4 and 5 :\
How can anyone finish the book so fast? Unless they slept until 12 to get the book and read it in one big session :P
 
Ive read all the books, but I read 5 2 summers ago, so I wanna know a place that can give me all the neccessary info to read book 6
 
KarishBHR said:
Ive read all the books, but I read 5 2 summers ago, so I wanna know a place that can give me all the neccessary info to read book 6

Just reread the last couple of chapters of Book 5, and you'll be fine, I think.
 
Somehow the first 5 chapters seem more interesting that in any of the previous books.

I remember the beginning chapters of the early books as being kind of a chore;
like all set up.

But in book 6 the story hits the ground rolling. It's great.
 
flsh said:
I think it's going to be a great book. I should have reread them like I did with 4 and 5 :\
How can anyone finish the book so fast? Unless they slept until 12 to get the book and read it in one big session :P

I didn't get Book 6 yet, but I remember blazing through 1-5. The grammar and sentence structure are elementary, so the reading goes extremely fast. The only things that made me pause a bit were the Hogsworth jargon and some of the british slang. But really, for anybody who reads regularly, you should be able to finish quite quickly.
 
IMO->

Well I finished it last night and I tell you it is brilliant. I wouldn't have said that after reading the first half of the book where it was simply awesome but the ending makes it simply brilliant. The trio make a flawless journey from children to adults through the book. Relationships are perfectly handled. Harry Potter is no longer the whinging brat he was in OoP which turned off so many people. The book is much more adult (not quite) and near the end Harry Potter becomes almost warrior like. The ending has you yearning for the next book because you know that Harry Potter now means business and you know that people are going to rally behind him. I couldn't help but think "It's ON BIT*HES!!!!"
 
I'm nearly finished, and will definitely post something longer later, but...

Professor Slughorn has a lot of trouble remembering the names of people he deems unimportant, like Ron. But did you catch what he called him in Chapter 22? ^_^
 
Kobun Heat said:
I'm nearly finished, and will definitely post something longer later, but...

Professor Slughorn has a lot of trouble remembering the names of people he deems unimportant, like Ron. But did you catch what he called him in Chapter 22? ^_^


Must have missed that. I picked it up again and skimmed through 22 but didn't see anything either.

It helps that I had a 12 hour head start over the rest of you -- but I also can't really put anything down until I've finished it. It'd take willpower I don't have to spread the book over a certain amount of time :-P
 
Kobun Heat said:
I'm nearly finished, and will definitely post something longer later, but...

Professor Slughorn has a lot of trouble remembering the names of people he deems unimportant, like Ron. But did you catch what he called him in Chapter 22? ^_^

Haha, it took me a second to get the first time I read it.
I was thinking... "Rupert? That doesn't sound that much like Ron... but that name sounds significant for a reason..."
 
I might write more tomorrow -- I'm pretty tired right now -- but I wanted to at least get this down before bed.

It's been pointed out how much levity there is in this book, especially considering all the deaths. If you look at what KIND of levity is going on, though, and just how packed the book is with it, you start to understand where things are going.

I think most readers took Dumbledore's pronouncement at the end of Book 1 the same way Harry seems to have taken it -- not really seriously. He says something to the effect, "Yeah, I know, it was love that saved me...", not really believing it, which sends Dumbledore into a tirade about the power of love.

We get this reinforced constantly. Look at all the couplings that happen in this book alone? Bill/Fleur takes up a huge chunk of the book. Harry-and-Ginny finally happens, and it's really serious. Ron and Hermione figure it out. But it keeps going. Tonks and Lupin (!?). Filch and Madam Pince (!?!?!?).

Harry's constantly followed by girls. Love potions -- this is the book where we don't just hear them mentioned in passing; we see it, hear it named, see it used. Even in flashbacks, it's all about love. Snape's parents' wedding announcement. Voldemort's conception.

And all of this is contrasted with the highest body count yet seen in an HP book. Right off the bat, people -- not major characters, but recognizeable ones -- start dying. A death used to be a cause for two chapters of reflection. Now they merit a sentence at best. It's the book of Love and the book of Death all in one.

Appropriate, of course, to conflate the two -- especially in a story whose defining moment is a split-second meeting of love and death.
 
Quick question to all you HP fans.

I've never read any of the books.

Watched the first movie and it was entertaining and all but nothing great. Watched bits of the second but wasn't too impressed (I do want to watch it all though). Then just a bit ago I watched the third one and it was just awesome. It was much more interesting than the first two.

Now I'm interested in reading the books if they keep the same kind of pace/feel of the third one? So would you recommend I go pick up goblet of fire and see what I think? or will I be let down?
 
Well I don't see how the book can be better than the movie since the movie has Gary Fucking Oldman!

...but maybe I will. Doesn't answer my question though :) Do you think I'll be let down by the fourth one? Does it have the same pace/feel of the third one?
 
what I can't help thinking about the next book.

To me it looks like JK Rowling has been working towards a setting where Harry is pretty much a leader of an Army, and Ron and Hermoine are his officers. It's been engineered that way from the very start of the series, from Ron's strategical mind at Chess, Hermoine's quick thinking to Harry's bravery and leadership. His friends will follow him out of love not fear unlike Voldemorts followers.

Harry will probably be fighting for alot more than the memory of his parents. I predict that Ginny despite Harry's attempts to protect her by dis-association will mess up and get herself in trouble, and Harry will be fighting not only to destroy Voldemort but to save Ginny. I don't think that the relationship is just another 'must do before Harry dies' thing like some people have suggested, I think it strengthens the theme that Harry is fighting with love as his most powerful magic. Right now, his action seems more like revenge.

Now that Harry speaks for himself and acts the leader im sure he will obtain a force behind him. Voldemort is going to try to give the 'We are just the same' talk, and no doubt Harry will begin to question if he really is until he realises the differance that the people who follow him are his friends. The people who follow Voldemort however are not. It's why the lessons with Dumbledore were so important. Harry was learning the defining differances between himself and Voldemort as leaders not just the nature of Tom Riddle and his quest for immortality.
 
only to about ch 13, taking my time with this, and busy at work. up to ch 13 spoiler

I really like this one alot, the since of urgency even at Hogwarts, it is the little thing like student getting pulled out of the school, people parents dieing and like that.I'm really enjoying it.
 
Jesus H. Finally Rowling got
Ron/Hermione together, and Harry/Ginny together. Well at least for 50 pages or so on that second one :lol .

Anyways, I really enjoyed it, aside from the part that motherfucker spoiled.

After my initial reading:

POA > GOF > HBP > OOTP > COS > PS
 
I don't think that the relationship is just another 'must do before Harry dies' thing like some people have suggested,

Exactly. I think it's more meaningful than that. First off, there's no way Ginny will just roll over and accept Harry's decision. She waited five years for him, after all.

Second, there's something else that's constantly reinforced throughout the series: Ginny's power. We're constantly shown, if not outright told, that she is one of the most powerful girls at Hogwarts. Usually it's just mentioned in passing by Fred and George, but in this volume we see it confirmed by another outside source -- Slughorn, who invites her to his club for reasons entirely related to her magical ability. He's not just bringing ANYBODY who can pull off a Bat-Bogey Hex; so what he saw had to be extraordinarily impressive.
 
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