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Harvey Weinstein Forced Out of His Own Company
- Thread starter Shard
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But the people that aided and abetted him are still there
elrechazado
Banned
Hollywood still gives standing ovation for child rapists, why force out Harvey? He fits right in their hypocrite rotten culture.
AuthenticM
Member
god I fucking hope not
UserNotFound
Member
As long as the entertainment industry exists, the culture will never change. This is delusion. Wannabe actresses are always accosted by sleazy media executives in that business. It is a tale as old as the industry itself, so much so that it's in of itself a movie/tv cliche.
I'm content that the board took financial interests above keeping HW onboard, but the dude made such a cultural impact in the movie business and with his philanthropy that this'll all be brushed aside months later after the fact because "he produced Pulp Fiction".
Guys that influential and big in that business don't easily go away. It took decades of payoffs and threatened lawsuits for someone to have the courage to speak up publicly. The only thing that would lead me to believe the industry is willing to fix itself is if there were less payoffs and more candid information to law enforcement.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
The other interesting one would be Kevin Smith.
The Last Wizard
Member
RecRoulette
Member
Yeah...
Or hes dodged it as long as someone can. Even if youre rich and connected, this stuff can catch up to you.
Good move by the board, and I give some credit to the people who resigned beforehand.
Nothing is changing, like ever. If he is powerful enough, any asshole will prey on the weak and nothing substantial will happen to him.
He'll be surprised, but he's a dude that has watched his daughter under threat and has been getting his head around a lot of these situations recently. He'll be heartbroken about it. Not sure what he'll say though.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Thank you, Harvey, for giving us such unforgettable talents like Tom Hooper and Michel Hazanavicius. You won't be forgotten
To the posters above: I bet Tarantino and Smith knew about some of these incidents . They are way too close to the guy to not know.
you disgusting piece of shit
Apparently they are changing the name https://www.thewrap.com/weinstein-company-expects-change-name-harvey-firing-exclusive/amp/ The Oscar Bait Film Company, may I suggest?
To the posters above: I bet Tarantino and Smith knew about some of these incidents . They are way too close to the guy to not know.
Curious Puppy
Banned
Tarantino does not give a single fuck about putting his foot in his mouth, I am dreading what he might say while doing the press rounds for his next movie when inevitably asked about this. Best case scenario is either no comment or he gets angry at whoever asks because he doesn't want to talk about it, if he actually denounces him and calls out that behavior for being gross I'd be shocked.
What if they just call it the Bob Weinstein Co.?
PsihoPerihelion
Member
That'd be both funny and messy. I think they should drop any reference to the Weinstein Bros.
I wouldn't read that much into this. It's damage control and that alone.
TDLink
Member
Not really. IMO, this is just something Bob utilized to seize complete control of the company.
It's a unique situation, not an indicator of a larger trend. That said, I do believe the up and coming generation is going to be a lot more clean than the older scandalous one (but maybe I'm completely wrong about that).
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Well, his attorney resigning certainly says a lot about her career, especially if she negotiated any number of the out of court settlements.
aorange999
Member
No I really think there is a pretty clear split between what was considered normal in Hollywood even 15 years ago and what happens today. These old assholes are on their way out, the new version of the industry is driven way more by standard corporate rules and regulations and metrics.
HyperZone<3
Member
if the company were profitable, sure.
The Weinstein Company was founded on a big pile of loans, not VC. They've had some pretty lean years lately, and there have been competitors (lower budget films for adults, prestige pictures and such) entering their space and doing better than they did. Harvey has been a toxic bridge burner for years now (sleazy life aside), what's gonna kill his company is now that indie films that the major studios don't release now don't have to resort to The Weinstein Company to be seen, they can sign up with A24, or Neon, or Annapurna, or STX, or The Orchard, or Entertainment Studios...
The point being, Weinstein's company doesn't have a promising future, a very crappy present, and its heyday is pretty far back in the rearview mirror.
TDLink
Member
Yes, I agree with you. What I'm saying is Harvey being ousted doesn't really have to do with that and just has to do with Bob wanting complete control of the company. And thus this ousting isn't an indication of any larger trend.
That said, a lot of the people in charge 15 years ago (or close enough to the top) are still in charge now. It's going to be another decade or two before you see a complete shift. Ie, I am sure there will be more stuff coming out of the woodwork about different people.
SolidChamp
Banned
I imagine the board meeting went something like this
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
By bringing it up like this, you appear to be applauding them giving a standing ovation for a child rapist and asking them to do the same for a chronic sexual harasser.
KaiserBecks
Member
Somewhere, Troy Duffy is having a drink, telling himself he won.
the_darkness
Banned
Hey guys, how about we hold off on slandering people like Tarantino and Smith until they, you know actually say what some of you are assuming they will.
This. People have known about Weinstein for years. Just because it is now out there means what? That they didn't let him get away with it, do nothing, or hell even take part probably.
Dude was in the Miramax inner circle, bitterly split from then, and has said nothing about this. At best he's in the "didn't see it, but I heard rumours" camp.
They were LITERALLY Harvey's boys. In Down and Dirty Pictures both talk intimately about how Harvey is. Book must've been hit with mega "do not publish that story" threats, which is terrifying given what it does publish is fucked up.
The others just didn't get caught or outed. Hollywood is full of this stuff and worse.
Seems like the same culture to me. Turn a blind eye for years only to take action once a big enough stink is made.
I imagine the board meeting went something like this
GOAT fitting for that character.
Fook Weinstein ! Rich white men thinking they can do whatever they want....
They only think that way because they are deluded from it being true for a long long time.
It would be better not to have someone behaving like this for decades and only get in trouble because it became a little bit more public than it already was.
Fallout-NL
Member
Unless the man does actual time for this, I don't think he'll feel too bad considering the severance package he must've gotten (in addition to what probably already was a massive fortune).
Napoleonthechimp
Member
I don't think it is is fair to them to judge them for Harvey's personal indiscretions (putting it mildly).
This is something, the least that could happen. He will be more than alright though, I can only hope he feels even a tiny bit of remorse and not just because he got caught. Hopefully this would also be a wake up call to some others that the behaviour is anything but appropriate or atleast that they can also be caught and they should stop the shit they are doing. Money and power will not always hide and keep someone protected from everything, this is a message that needs to be seen more often.
I'm judging them for not speaking out. Smith bills himself as a friend to women and a straight shooter, but he's said nothing. And I stick by the viewpoint that morals should always trump finances, when shit like this is involved.
the_darkness
Banned
I really don't think there is any onus on them to come out and speak against what are allegations at this stage.
whatsinaname
Member
I see it is time for another Hollywood petition.
elrechazado
Banned
That's an interesting take. Perhaps one who would make such an interpretation would have no clue what the word rotten means? Really dude?
But he didnt molest starlets..
I assume NYT has the dirt and when they can go public, Weinstein will be prosecuted?
I doubt very much that you'll see anywhere the amount of support from filmmakers, especially with the contentious history that Harvey has had with them. Scorsese sure as hell won't be on that list.
Sadly, with as little chatter we've heard about it already from that community, I fear that silence and waiting for a bigger national story to make this quietly go away is the likely outcome. I don't doubt for a second that a lot of execs with similar baggage are only upset that Harvey managed to get caught.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Yeah im with this. It's not up to those guys to speak out on rumors.
Harvy may be a piece of shit, doesn't mean they are too just because they are boys.
Why do they say "new information" as if the company and board didn't already know about this?
So that they can deny knowing about this.