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Has 343 Industries redeemed themselves with Halo:MCC
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Naughty_Doge
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I personally loved Halo 4 and find the idea of 343 Industries "redeeming" themselves with Master Chief Collection to be incredibly insulting.
When Halo 4 is your DEBUT game, you have nothing to be ashamed of.
The Halo 4 hate on GAF is overblown out of proportion. Then again, this is the same forum that was FOR Metroid Other M so what would you guys know about quality.
When Halo 4 is your DEBUT game, you have nothing to be ashamed of.
The Halo 4 hate on GAF is overblown out of proportion. Then again, this is the same forum that was FOR Metroid Other M so what would you guys know about quality.
It seems like most of GAF (or the vocal minority) has an everlasting hatred for 4
king grimlock
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taking out one game regardless of quality would decrease the value by a lot making it an inferior product
1.21Gigawatts
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Remaking games is not the same as making a completely new one.
I don't think MCC says anything about how good Halo5 will be.
I don't think MCC says anything about how good Halo5 will be.
It's the same games rereleased. You know what you are getting.
just took this a min ago, and Halo MCC ranks #60 on best selling item of 2014. And yes COD AC and GTA V are not even in the list yet.
Halo thirst is real guys.
It's #53 best selling in the UK.
Exactly, this is 343 saying 'give us another chance'. The Halo 5 beta stuff is really the underappreciated part of the bundle.
Again if you've been paying attention it's a hell of a lot more than just porting.
So in your eyes 343 "redeemed" themselves by copying someone else's work. (I don't think there is any redemption necessary but I'm also not a Halo superfan)
Halo Anniversary had a shitty netcode coop, so we don't know for sure.
Shining Sunshine
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How do you "redeem" yourself by taking someone else's work and selling it?
Pop
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That's how I feel but the sales of H4 gives them at least two more fuck ups not counting MCC.
Halo is the only franchise I care about on the Xbox brand and I will be buying a X1 for it. But first I'll see how it is once it comes out.
TharpDaddy
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MCC is great, but it's mostly Bungie's work. The touchups they did they had the guideline already there. Creating a new product will be the test if they can actually make a good Halo game. They're saying all the right things, but i'm going to remain skeptical until I see the beta.
Halo 5's apology is going to be even better!
They said all games will be running on dedicated servers. So hopefully they fixed that. I didn't play HALO:CE AE to have a say in this.
GIANKRATOS
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Yeah exactly what i was thinking.
So we should never give Bluepoint, Sumo, etc any credit for porting games well?
Don't mind the fact that they're completely upping the FPS of a traditionally 30FPS franchise (which is a big deal for Halo fans) and including all of these goodies (Blur cinematics, new music, an entirely new MP engine/game, plus a beta AND a new digital series).
Yup...
343i put no effort into this collection, just a port, all it is.
/s come on now.. Give them credit.
This.
This guy said it better than I ever could have
Watch the Vidoc. Then tell me 343i is doing nothing and just copy/pasting a bunch of games.
rokkerkory
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SwiftDeath
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This is one case where I would feel safe crediting the good decision to higher management.
I severely doubt 343 had final say as to whether or not Halo MCC was getting made. This is likely a project that started with Phil Spencer as I believe he was head of WW studios for MS? And was probably decided upon in concert with Mattrick as a good move to maintain the strength of the Halo brand.
As per pricing and content, I again would not think that would fall to 343 to decide. Well perhaps the absolute breadth of content but the developers wouldn't decide upon the pricing structure or how you paid for all that content.
So I guess I believe in Phil Spencer?
It's a great product though that's for sure and if there were any doubts of 343's technical prowess [which I never thought there was???] then this would clearly put those to rest
I severely doubt 343 had final say as to whether or not Halo MCC was getting made. This is likely a project that started with Phil Spencer as I believe he was head of WW studios for MS? And was probably decided upon in concert with Mattrick as a good move to maintain the strength of the Halo brand.
As per pricing and content, I again would not think that would fall to 343 to decide. Well perhaps the absolute breadth of content but the developers wouldn't decide upon the pricing structure or how you paid for all that content.
So I guess I believe in Phil Spencer?
It's a great product though that's for sure and if there were any doubts of 343's technical prowess [which I never thought there was???] then this would clearly put those to rest
Nah, man It's just a port. derp!
What exactly are 343i doing here?
Twin Tails
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need to try out dat h5 beta
Hydranockz
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Reducing the tech and additions to Halo 2 Anniversary and the release of the mainline Halo titles as one product to "porting" is saddening.
This project could simply have not happened. Or it may only have been a fraction of the scope that it has become. Their commitment to, at the very least, try do good by the fans is worthy of praise.
Whether or not the playlist management is suitable or not will take time to really judge. I don't know what better gesture 343 could possibly make. Certaintly going to give it some time.
This project could simply have not happened. Or it may only have been a fraction of the scope that it has become. Their commitment to, at the very least, try do good by the fans is worthy of praise.
Whether or not the playlist management is suitable or not will take time to really judge. I don't know what better gesture 343 could possibly make. Certaintly going to give it some time.
It was definitely a good move for them to do it and everything they've done so far makes it seems like they realize their mistakes. We'll have to wait until Halo 5 if they fully understand what they did wrong with Halo 4.
And hey even if they mess up Halo 5, we can all just go back to the MCC.
And hey even if they mess up Halo 5, we can all just go back to the MCC.
Heh, when the news leaked it seemed so far fetched, but low and behold it will be in my hands in just over a week. I played through Halo 4 more than once with friends and played some multiplayer. I am curious to see what the Halo 5 MP Beta will be like in the first couple weeks of the New Year!
Crossing Eden
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I just cannot wait for classic Halo MP. Destiny only lightly brushed the itch for me.
Solidsoul
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Speak for yourself. Halo 4 was a great game both by general standards and Halo standards for me.
In my eyes they don't need to redeem anything because I was happy with their efforts in 4, I honestly liked it more than 3.
With that being said, we all have different opinions and many were disappointed in Halo 4. Factoring that in I feel like 343 is making all of the right moves. They are on the best possible path for those who need to see them redeemed.
I feel for the long term Halo is in much better hands than Bungie. As Bungie said themselves, Halo has become it's own beast and it's time for fans to breathe new life into it.
Having one property ruled and dictated by the same entity forever can be harmful to the material in ways the same or worse than by new hands, for example watch Star Wars Episode 1-3.
In my eyes they don't need to redeem anything because I was happy with their efforts in 4, I honestly liked it more than 3.
With that being said, we all have different opinions and many were disappointed in Halo 4. Factoring that in I feel like 343 is making all of the right moves. They are on the best possible path for those who need to see them redeemed.
I feel for the long term Halo is in much better hands than Bungie. As Bungie said themselves, Halo has become it's own beast and it's time for fans to breathe new life into it.
Having one property ruled and dictated by the same entity forever can be harmful to the material in ways the same or worse than by new hands, for example watch Star Wars Episode 1-3.
Just tell me.
Ichabod
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Halo 4 campaign was well done, even if the antagonist was lame. I really enjoyed the chemistry between Cortana and the Chief and found myself shedding a single, manly tear at the end. MP was meh and everyone in my circle had moved on not even a month post release. That said, bring back the pro-pipe from Reach for H5 and all will be forgiven.
Why does he have to tell you , when there are a fuckton of threads and IGN first coverage of how they've been handling MCC? Frankly anyone who calls it a simple "port" hasn't been paying attention.
Nope. I'm willing to give Halo 5 a shot, but this game is basically just 343 organizing other companies in releasing even another company's games and throwing Halo 4 in there as basically a bonus. I'm totally psyched for it and appreciate it, but it hardly reflects on if 343 can actually produce a good Halo game.
This is also true.
This is also true.
Taking out that specific game would increase the quality of matchmaking thus making it a superior product.
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