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Has Brawl raised the standard for fighters?

KTallguy said:
When people actually stop playing it like SF2 and use the new systems, I think this statement will go out of fashion.
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Yep, as it should for Brawl when people bring up how it's "worse than/not like Melee" or how "it hasn't evolved from SSB64".
 
Branduil said:
I hate to break it to you but nobody dies in other fighting games either.
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Oh so witty, although I've already addressed this in and earlier post! :lol

It's Nintendo semantics. Like calling customers "guests".

Additionally, Captain Falcon is in competition with Starfox for the worst shit that ever did shit.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Oh so witty, although I've already addressed this in and earlier post! :lol

It's Nintendo semantics. Like calling customers "guests".

Additionally, Captain Falcon is in competition with Starfox for the worst shit that ever did shit.
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You're like the super fucking awesomest Brawl hater ever dude. Like, you get the brawl trophy for brawl hatin'! You like showed all those Smash dweebs once for and for all man!

Yeah!
 
Well, it's raised the standard for Game Arts at least... it's pretty easily the best thing they're put out in a solid decade. And I don't even like Smash Bros*.



*while sober
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
Oh so witty, although I've already addressed this in and earlier post! :lol

It's Nintendo semantics. Like calling customers "guests".

Additionally, Captain Falcon is in competition with Starfox for the worst shit that ever did shit.
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Are you on drugs man?
 
title should be changed to "Has Brawl raised the standard for fan service fighters?" I would then say yes.

For fighting games, I would say huh? are you on crack, go play mortal kombat games if you think thats what fighting games are about (massive amounts of characters and content).

If the title were to change then I would say Final Fantasy Dissidia is another fan service game to be on the lookout for the PSP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRO9sUtZGiU
 
PistolGrip said:
If the title were to change then I would say Final Fantasy Dissidia is another fan service game to be on the lookout for the PSP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRO9sUtZGiU
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Yea, I actually wonder how this game will turn out...

And to me, comparing the travesty that the MK series has become to Smash is kind of insulting. I mean, Smash still has some semblance of balance. MK games of late are just "throw everything into a pot and stir".

Kodiak said:
it may not have the incredibly complex, deep system of say VF5, but there is something to be said for making an infinitely fun and replayable system.
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Any good fighting game has this. VF5 is infinitely fun and replayable to me.
 
brawl is a fighter.

fighter elitists are the worst.

it may not have the incredibly complex, deep system of say VF5, but there is something to be said for making an infinitely fun and replayable system.
 
vantastic said:
there are plenty of people that don't like smash bros. what's severe is the backlash against those people! :lol
ZOMG YOU DON'T LIKE SMASH BROS?!?!?! YOU TROLL! GET OUT OF THIS THREAD!!! YOU FAIL!!!!


:lol
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the difference is that most of these people seem to have an intense natural hatred for the series without so much as giving any good reasons.
 
I hate when the word fun is used at times to describe how a game most people play games for fun if you don't find aspects fun that's on yourself. Same shit ticks me off when people use fun as a reason they stay casual instead of leaguing or other forms of competitive play if it was fun most people wouldn't bother as the money unless you're really at the top isn't worth it.

Brawl content was does more than most fighters but outside of that to me it's just like most other fighters and stop saying it's depth is more so than other fighters becaue one haven't bothered to learned the depth. So far from what I read the competitve aspects of this game were toned down so much for that argument imo.
 
I don't believe most of the fanbase for Smash bros even thinks of it as a "fighting game" in the sense of comparisons to Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Street Fighter, King of Fighters or Guilty Gear, so I don't think it's gonna become a barometer for how much content needs to be in any of those series or others similar to them.

As someone who keeps up on gaming news, plays most of the big games and is pretty knowledgeable about what games are out there, I don't have VF5 or Street Fighter comparisons running through my head when I'm using Donkey Kong to kick the crap out of Pokemon characters. And for those who don't follow gaming as much as someone like me, I hardly think they;re saying to themselves "Well, the next tekken needs to have more game modes now that I've played this"
 
Brawl isn't a traditional fighter and it's a game made for Nintendo fans. Expecting companies like Capcom and Namco to even bother trying to match it in terms of content is pretty silly. That would be like taking this:

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And even though that is a repackaged collection of stuff packaged together for fans, expecting future action games to match that much content and that much extras for a great cheap price. Just not logical.
 
Speevy said:
In terms of depth? No.
In terms of features? Probably not.
In terms of online play? I don't think so.
In terms of graphics? Definitely not.
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This.

Brawl is a very unique fighter for a lot of reasons, and to expect to have the same number of features in other fighters is non-sense. It won't and, in some cases, shouldn't happen.
 
Andokuky said:
Brawl isn't a traditional fighter and it's a game made for Nintendo fans. Expecting companies like Capcom and Namco to even bother trying to match it in terms of content is pretty silly. That would be like taking this:
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Actually Capcom and Namco, both individually and together, DO have the IP power to rival that of Smash Bros..

I have no idea what's stopping them (if Nintendo is signing them up for Smash 4 I'll be all over that :D).

NamcoXCapcom is a testament to neither company.
 
Kikujiro said:
The problem is that there are some people who have wrote argumentative posts, yet you seem to care only about the 'trolling' comments. I think it's more useless this kind of posts than the "SSBM is not a fighting fame", because you're ignoring the discussion and all the serious answers within the thread.
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Yeah this thread has been nothing but insightful rational debate about the mechanics of Super Smash Bros.

Stop acting as if this thread isn't a clusterfuck of people (on both sides) posting kneejerk reactions from reading the thread title and nothing more. There are sensible posts, but they are very few and far between.

Kikujiro said:
Yoboman's arguments have proven wrong, and not because SSBM is not a fighting game, just read the damn topic.
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I don't give a rat's ass about whether SSBB counts as a fighting game to GAF or not. I enjoy both Street Fighter and Super Smash Brothers as fighting games. I see the clear differences between them, and that is a good thing, not bad. Is it impossible to like both?

For the record on this, my stance is that Brawl has not raised the standard for fighters. Not because Brawl is "TEH PARTY GAME", but because I don't see it as revolutionary.
 
Kodiak said:
brawl is a fighter.

fighter elitists are the worst.

it may not have the incredibly complex, deep system of say VF5, but there is something to be said for making an infinitely fun and replayable system.
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But that's not what the OP is asking. I believe you just labled yourself there.
 
Gigglepoo said:
I love how Smash Bros is treated like astrophysics on this board. It's a game! How hard is it to understand?
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Seems like a lot. A game where characters punch, kick and throw each other is not considered a fighting game. Weird. WTF is it then, action? RPG? Football? It would be easier to read if people just called it a casual fighting game. Can we agree on that?
 
skinnyrattler said:
Seems like a lot. A game where characters punch, kick and throw each other is not considered a fighting game. Weird. WTF is it then, action? RPG? Football? It would be easier to read if people just called it a casual fighting game. Can we agree on that?
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No! It's not bloody Wiiplay. It's a deep fighting game, despite the fact it doesn't have inputs that resemble cheat codes
 
skinnyrattler said:
Seems like a lot. A game where characters punch, kick and throw each other is not considered a fighting game. Weird. WTF is it then, action? RPG? Football? It would be easier to read if people just called it a casual fighting game. Can we agree on that?
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Punch kick and throw each other could be a beat em up.
 
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