You see zero evidence that Sony was a looking for those type of of numbers? That's a fairly ridiculous statement.
Yet you still don't offer up evidence that is the numbers they are seeking though, shit its your fucking thread and your argument, you put up the evidence to support your thread man, you can't just keep on with "fairly ridiculous" and then offer zero examples, evidence, statements, qoutes to actually support any of this.
Sony is not going make a Soulsborne game their flagship launch title without some pretty lofty ambitions.
Yet Sony is also known to launch without massive heavy hitters cause they also know less systems exist to move units of that software..... its why PS4 didn't launch with Uncharted, but launched with Killzone, a solid series, but not a game known for moving massive numbers. Simply a title to showcase the hardware. In fact, MOST 1st parties do this, even Nintendo launched Switch with a port from Wii U vs a native ground up ONLY Switch title. So I'm sorry man, but I don't see much here that argues just cause its the PS5 launch, that Sony was expecting those numbers, in fact most argues that they wouldn't because it just fucking launched, why would they expect numbers that they got fucking YEARS into PS4's cycle vs day 1?
You could launch The Last Of Us 2 or Uncharted 4 on PS5 and that shit is not moving the units you saw from PS4 in the same 6 month or 1 year time frame or anything like that, not cause they are bad games, but the install base is smaller, over time those games will get older and more poeple buying the system will simply wish to buy the game second hand, on sale etc vs day 1 brand new, as in you need an established base of units to seek those numbers in teh first place, launch is to show off hardware to get people to BUY HARDWARE, its not the place to go ham on software and I'd argue MOST 3rd parties do the very same thing.
What major 3rd party launched with a NEXT GEN ONLY title when PS5 and Series X came out? Do you now see why that is a rare thing and that they need units sold and a massive base to then get the reward from software sales or?
The fact that its a remake and not a ground up, brand new Souls game literally shows they clearly only wanted remake type sales as to why the cost was lessor then a normal title or why Spiderman was like a smaller DLC type thing, they are not fucking putting SPIDERMAN 2 at launch and they are NOT doing it as a PS5 only title etc, massively unlikely even if they fucking had the game ready to go, cause why would Sony then want to sell LESS units of the game cause this supply issue?
They'd just delay it as they should, keep working on it and marketing it and release when enough own the system to seek a return or better yet never tell you about despite knowing it exist.
So I'm sorry man, nothing you are saying makes sense to even 3rd parties to then make it seem as if Sony of all companies wanted Bloodborne 2015 numbers, from PS5 DAY 1 without those same PS4 numbers lol It doesn't fucking make sense and its massively flawed arguement.
Not even MS is doing that shit, they literally are sitting out next gen only shit until 2022 to my understanding and they are right to imho. If it makes sense for them and people are still buying the system, they can get a massive return on investmetn of Starfield when they have tens of millions of Series X vs a few...
Souls games are selling hand over fist these days
They are selling on systems with wide established install bases theses days.... =)
Shit man, that is like saying Call Of Duty is really looking for 20 million units DAY 1 and they just put out a NEXT GEN ONLY Call Of Duty on the launch day of PS5 and Series X and then say "wow bro they must have had loft ambitions" and or "its farily ridiculous to believe they didn't expect 20 million" lol Just stop man. It doesn't make sense and a logical reason exist on why you see first and 3rd party wait a bit before putting out massive next gen titles and the ones they do put out is with a expectation for lower numbres based on a lower install base.
Why do you only want to talk about the game selling and ignore the install base of systems just to force a narrative? Its basically saying "can we please not bring up that less PS5's exist please" as if Sony doesn't know that day 1. They want a safe return on investment because LESS PS5's exist then PS4's day 1, how they'd expect 2015 software sales without the same install base is beyond me and sounds just desperate from you.
It was a full on high budget remake
Its also not a budget of a normal AAA ground up title, its typically less on remakes as much of what Bluepoint does is bring over lots of elements from the PS3 code, so no....its not on the level of Sony's other AAA titles as a remake never reallly is, as the are not making a new story or creating gameplay designs or anything like that.
So in terms of budgets, its always going to go
Great Value Port
Remaster
Remake
Brand new AAA sequel
New IP
Normally, that really is the order based on many, many factors. So their budget likely reflects that this is a launch, less systems exist and they don't have the money for new concepts, RND, testing and all the other stuff that is increased in a new release.
I was asking you a question about install base. That "weak argument" that you have dodged time and time again.
This. Might as well be the whole thread imho. I don't even know why one would dodge that topic like this when it directly reflects a titles sales. One can easily CONTROL F and see JUST how little install base was talked about by Casey, I don't even see the point in really hoping we ignore that, but wait JUST talk about the units sold and ignore all other factors apparently.
Your question is irrelevant.
I massively disagree. If a Call Of Duty comes out at launch only on PS5 and Series X, you can't really fucking tell me it selling less units then the other titles has ZERO RELEVANCE on install base.
Its becoming clear why you keep trying to dodge that question as it simply doesn't fit this narrative that it should sell this or that, I don't even know why one would be expecting the same sales of a the game, without the same sales of the hardware.... it literally makes no sense....