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Having trouble telling these Nintendo games apart...

I can't be bothered to answer the OP. Just looking at a video would easily show the difference. I guess that isn't an option.

Featuring the same characters =/= the games are hard to tell apart

flyinpiranha said:
I have the same problem with bags of chips.
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Oh man this reply. It is hilarious.
 
Heavy said:
New Mario Bros. Dream Team Bros.
Yoshi's Island 3DS/U
New Super Luigi U
Mario and Luigi RPG 4
Mario Party 3DS
Mario vs DK Carnival

As a casual observer of Nintendo games, I have trouble differentiating these. Is anyone else? I can tell they're different games but they all sort of mesh together. Art styles are similar, characters, settings, it's confusing. I guess you could say the same for:

Call of Duty X
Battlefield X

...but it's not as bad, probably due to the huge marketing campaigns and separate reveals.
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You need to go to a doctor. Can you tell the difference between Pokemon Black and Pokemon Snap? Between Halo Wars and Halo? If you can't you may have a brain disease.
 
Its a sad testament to what people are like here that I have to read something like this and ask myself whether it is intelligent, biting satire, an earnest question or a sad fishing game for someone with nothing better to do.

FWIW, I do think they need to avoid any further NSMB2 / NSMBU situations... and yes, I think they're in danger of that in some cases.
 
Idk, between Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi, NSMB, Yoshi's Island Yarn, Yoshi's Island 3DS and the Galaxy games, I think Mario covers a wide variety of artstyles. It goes with out saying, he's been in more diverse games artistically than any other mascot other than Link just by being so old.
 
Heavy said:
New Mario Bros. Dream Team Bros.
Yoshi's Island 3DS/U
New Super Luigi U
Mario and Luigi RPG 4
Mario Party 3DS
Mario vs DK Carnival

As a casual observer of Nintendo games, I have trouble differentiating these. Is anyone else? I can tell they're different games but they all sort of mesh together. Art styles are similar, characters, settings, it's confusing.
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You're being deliberately obtuse.

There is no game called "New Mario Bros Dream Team Bros.". Mario and Luigi RPG 4 is subtitled Dream Team Bros in Europe. That game is an RPG.

New Super Luigi U is downloadable content for New Super Mario Bros U.

Mario Party is a Mario Party game.

Mario and Donkey Kong is a series of puzzle games, the newest release of which is a top-down title with some sort of Pipe Dream-like mechanics.

Yoshi's Island is a series of games where you play as Yoshi. There are two unreleased Yoshi games right now: Yoshi's Island 3DS, and a Yoshi game for Wii U featuring a yarn aesthetic.

I've bolded the words you need to tell the games apart.

If what you meant was "LOL boy Nitnendo spends all their time cashing in on nostalgia and the same old characters", that thread is currently on the front page
 
If the way you tell games apart is by watching what the main character looks like, then, yeah, 3-D Mario games are all going to look alike. However, the games themselves have wide-ranging mechanics and different purposes. e.g. Mario in Mario Golf and Mario in Mario & Luigi 4 may be the same model, but they have vastly different functions. Same for Mario Party 3DS. Watching the games would make that clear with more than a cursory inspection.

Edit:
See Stumpokapow's post above.
 
radioheadrule83 said:
Its a sad testament to what people are like here that I have to read something like this and ask myself whether it is intelligent, biting satire, an earnest question or a sad fishing game for someone with nothing better to do.

FWIW, I do think they need to avoid any further NSMB2 / NSMBU situations... and yes, I think they're in danger of that in some cases.
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It's Heavy.
 
radioheadrule83 said:
Its a sad testament to what people are like here that I have to read something like this and ask myself whether it is intelligent, biting satire, an earnest question or a sad fishing game for someone with nothing better to do.

FWIW, I do think they need to avoid any further NSMB2 / NSMBU situations... and yes, I think they're in danger of that in some cases.
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I think they could improve some of their game titles at the least (with future ips probably) - I'm assuming they differentiate their box art enough already. Artstyle-wise, people expect Nintendo colours otherwise it will look off for most games. Hopefully we'll see them up the detail in their game worlds at least (a little bit).

Heavy said:
I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were the case.
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Problem is they've most likely turned dark by now.
 
Stumpokapow said:
You're being deliberately obtuse.

There is no game called "New Mario Bros Dream Team Bros.". Mario and Luigi RPG 4 is subtitled Dream Team Bros in Europe. That game is an RPG.

New Super Luigi U is downloadable content for New Super Mario Bros U.

Mario Party is a Mario Party game.

Mario and Donkey Kong is a series of puzzle games, the newest release of which is a top-down title with some sort of Pipe Dream-like mechanics.

Yoshi's Island is a series of games where you play as Yoshi. There are two unreleased Yoshi games right now: Yoshi's Island 3DS, and a Yoshi game for Wii U featuring a yarn aesthetic.

I've bolded the words you need to tell the games apart.

If what you meant was "LOL boy Nitnendo spends all their time cashing in on nostalgia and the same old characters", that thread is currently on the front page
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I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
 
First, Heavy gets it started. Then the Vitabros come to make their disapproval known; followed by the genuine 'loltendo' crowd bitching about 'same franchises'..

I bet you all had this planned the moment this direct was announced. Coordinating via PM and shit.
 
Heavy said:
Seriously, after all these years, decades now, tell me you wouldn't want to see a drastic art style change? Doesn't have to be some dark, mature Mario, but something different and not just sprites vs. 3D.
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There are differences though. Check the Wii U Yarn Yoshi vs the 3DS' Yoshi's Island. The Wii U one has the whole yarn aesthetic going, while the 3DS game has pre-rendered 3d models and a bit of the sketchy/painting art style of the original game.

The Mario and Luigi games also have a different style than the other ones. The new one less so since they're going with 3d models, but, even so, if you look at a battle scene you wouldn't mix it up that style with any other Mario game, and I don't mean only gameplay-wise.

Other games like Mario Party, Golf, NSMBs... do have a generic and recycled style though, but it's not everywhere. That's why people mention that Nintendo shouldn't go for a darker serious art style for this series when people complain about lack of art style variation. There's some range inside cartoony art styles, and Nintendo does explore it to some point, even within the Mario series itself, even if some (sub?)series are stuck with generic looks. So, when people complain about a general lack of variation (rather than aiming it at specific games that suffer from it), it seems like they're just asking for a dark/mature style.
 
Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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I'm confused...

you READ Cheesemeister's OP and you confused the art styles of the games?
 
Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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I can't tell any of my games apart because they all use english words in their titles.
 
Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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Then one would search it up and find out it is the same and no harm is really done because you just thought they were 2 different games?
 
Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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You're on the Internet, if you care about what the title is then you can do a quick search on wikipedia and find out about it.

I never understood things like this, if you don't care, then why does it matter? If you do care or want to know about the title, you would go and research about it.
 
TwEE-N-Toast said:
Arn't you always in Nintendo threads fighting with Nintendo fans? Didn't know you were just a casual observer.
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He's not a casual observer. He's the product of the prepackaged corporate videogame monoculture and hates anything in video games that's different than that.

At least that's conclusion that I've come to.
 
Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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Don't stop Heavy, please :lol
 
You're the type of Dad that comes home with caffeine free diet soda, aren't you?
 
Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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well someone who doesn't follow the games closely will never heard of mario & luigi RPG 4 because that name is used only for the japanese version. The rest as stated before are quite different, one is a dlc, the other is a yoshi game with a baby mario, party is about hitting blocks and playing minigames and mario vs dk is as far as I know dowloable only
 
Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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If you can't look at these screen shots and tell it's 4 different games, then you clearly have problems far greater than anything gaf could help you with. I'm not trying ot be funny here, I'm being serious. You should get an MRI done, and make sure everything is working alright. Yes they share a similar aesthetic but there is clearly enough different to be able to use a quick glance and know they aren't the same thing. I could see how maybe a 5 year old, or some one with a double digit IQ might have some trouble, but a grown intelligent adult would not.

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Heavy said:
I read Cheesemeister's OP for the conference and figured RPG4 and Dream Bros. were different games. Doesn't it all come off a bit homogenous to you? Imagine yourself as someone who doesn't follow the games super closely. It's not that easy to tell them apart.
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As long as the people who play those games can tell them apart, why would you worry about it?
 
Shin Johnpv said:
If you can't look at these screen shots and tell it's 4 different games, then you clearly have problems far greater than anything gaf could help you with. I'm not trying ot be funny here, I'm being serious. You should get an MRI done, and make sure everything is working alright. Yes they share a similar aesthetic but there is clearly enough different to be able to use a quick glance and know they aren't the same thing. I could see how maybe a 5 year old, or some one with a double digit IQ might have some trouble, but a grown intelligent adult would not.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/11676217/13.0_cinema_640.0.jpg

http://watchusplaygames.files.wordp...on-the-move-gameplay-screenshot-3ds-eshop.jpg

http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/new_super_luigi_u_001_thumb.jpg

http://i13c.3djuegos.com/juegos/966...fotos/set/mario__luigi_dream_team-2198038.jpg
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These 3 screenshots easily look like they could be from the same game but different levels, especially the first 2 screenshots. Sometimes games change perspective for a level or have a side-game, that's how it looks to me. I appreciate the advice about getting an MRI. I'll look into it.
 
The only two that I can understand people getting confused over are Mario and Luigi Dream Team and Mario and Luigi RPG 4.

They are all different genres.
 
metalslimer said:
Oh heavy....
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You guys keep saying this like I'm a moron (probably am but that's not the point) but I was right about the Wii U, as were many others who got constantly crapped on during the past year. Just sayin'. Most of this "oh you" stuff was due to making predictions about the Wii U, and I was right.
 
Heavy said:
These 3 screenshots easily look like they could be from the same game but different levels, especially the first 2 screenshots.
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No they don't, they look completely different. One has the character as a wind up toy, and the other has it as a dinosaur.

You are wrong.
 
Heavy said:
You guys keep saying this like I'm a moron (probably am but that's not the point) but I was right about the Wii U, as were many others who got constantly crapped on during the past year. Just sayin'. Most of this "oh you" stuff was due to making predictions about the Wii U, and I was right.
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Ok, you have to be brain dead not to be able to tell them apart sorry. There's argument to be made here but you made a terrible one. You sometimes will make a good point, but maybe if you presented yourself bette you wouldnt get crapped on
 
Yeah, they hit it out of the park this morning on this direct. I was wondering what was up with this thread and the other one claiming Nintendo makes no new IP's. Then I saw the rest of the first page.

No sir, I can tell them a part just fine.
 
Heavy said:
You guys keep saying this like I'm a moron (probably am but that's not the point) but I was right about the Wii U, as were many others who got constantly crapped on during the past year. Just sayin'. Most of this "oh you" stuff was due to making predictions about the Wii U, and I was right.
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
Heavy said:
You guys keep saying this like I'm a moron (probably am but that's not the point) but I was right about the Wii U, as were many others who got constantly crapped on during the past year. Just sayin'. Most of this "oh you" stuff was due to making predictions about the Wii U, and I was right.
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So this is just a big ploy for validation/internet high fives?

Dunno what to say more than there's enough visual difference there to set them apart even if series tropes are all abound.
 
Heavy said:
You guys keep saying this like I'm a moron (probably am but that's not the point) but I was right about the Wii U, as were many others who got constantly crapped on during the past year. Just sayin'. Most of this "oh you" stuff was due to making predictions about the Wii U, and I was right.
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I used to lurk here and read those WiiU threads and I will give you props. Despite the backlash you got in those threads you were probably the most realistic one out of the bunch lol. You did make some stupid posts but looking at those threads now the majority of those posts are just as stupid.

This thread however was not necessary. Maybe your trying to get across the point Nintendo is relying too much on the Mario universe (imo this is true) or the platformer genre but the games can be easily distinguished at least on a forum of gaming enthusiasts.
 
Shin Johnpv said:
No they don't, they look completely different. One has the character as a wind up toy, and the other has it as a dinosaur.

You are wrong.
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No, I can only see the first two screenshots for some reason but I actually thought they were from the same game and I'm neither for or against.
 
Heavy said:
You guys keep saying this like I'm a moron (probably am but that's not the point) but I was right about the Wii U, as were many others who got constantly crapped on during the past year. Just sayin'. Most of this "oh you" stuff was due to making predictions about the Wii U, and I was right.
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Don't act like you don't have a reputation from when you were a constant in Steam related threads.
 
Pyscho_Mantis said:
I used to lurk here and read those WiiU threads and I will give you props. Despite the backlash you got in those threads you were probably the most realistic one out of the bunch lol. You did make some stupid posts but looking at those threads now the majority of those posts are just as stupid.

This thread however was not necessary. Maybe your trying to get across the point Nintendo is relying too much on the Mario universe (imo this is true) or the platformer genre but the games can be easily distinguished at least on a forum of gaming enthusiasts.
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Thanks for the props. I'm afraid the damage has been done tho so "lol it's heavy" will always be there despite being on the money. Threads like this probably don't help, either. I should've spent more time thinking about it.
 
Heavy said:
You guys keep saying this like I'm a moron (probably am but that's not the point) but I was right about the Wii U, as were many others who got constantly crapped on during the past year. Just sayin'. Most of this "oh you" stuff was due to making predictions about the Wii U, and I was right.
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Your current avatar was from getting a Wii U prediction wrong, just saying. Don't act like you were right about everything.

AND...that has nothing to do with you not being able to tell each of these games apart from each other.
 
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