Went 7-2, and lost both two to Hunters with combos like that. Started the last game just when I had to leave home, so I choked on 7 wins again.
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Went 7-2, and lost both two to Hunters with combos like that. Started the last game just when I had to leave home, so I choked on 7 wins again.
MonorailCat
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Anybody else on EU has problems updating?
My launcher is stuck at "Initiliazing" ..
Edit: downloading now @ 1 kb/s ... good old 14.4k modem days.
My launcher is stuck at "Initiliazing" ..
Edit: downloading now @ 1 kb/s ... good old 14.4k modem days.
Went 7-2, and lost both two to Hunters with combos like that. Started the last game just when I had to leave home, so I choked on 7 wins again.
Just played against a priest and finally won. Priest probably made a mistake not attacking my Hyena when he was an 8/5
^^
LanceVance
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I don't think I've ever played a game that makes me rage as much as this one. Hell I'm usually very calm when it comes to playing games, but hearthstone just takes the piss. I went 4 - 0 up in arena with a decent deck, then the next 3 games the rng just gives me 4/5/6 drops for the first four or five turns, even though over half my deck is 1/2/3 drops, by which point the opponent has already destroyed me in early game because the rng has given him all his early cards. One game okay I can understand, but 3 in a row? Fucking bullshit
It's still there? Great priorities, Blizzard.
Leeroy is the usual big finisher for Rogue decks. Rag is really only used in one kind of Rogue deck and it requires a lot more cards to really support it.
If you have a card with a targeted Battlecry (e.g., Dark Iron Dwarf), going to play it and then canceling it should reset your hand.
MonorailCat
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Trying Pagle as Novice Replacement.. so far 0 out of 6 draws in the 3 games I played him. Well played.
Minsc
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I read they focus on balance/bug patches separately, and this last patch was a balance one, next patch is supposed to be a bug one. I agree though, it's a bit uninspiring that such a game-influencing bug has been around for so long.
The last two games someone used them against me, they drew 100% of the time, each netting 2 or more cards before I was able to kill them. That was not even as bad as the game I played against a paladin, who put that 1-cost card that lets you draw when a unit attacks on their own 1/1, then played that 0/4 taunt guy, and being a paladin myself, I had no answer for quite a while. He got to draw 3 or 4 cards being behind a decent sized taunting unit.
That pretty much confirms what I've been thinking, I simply don't have the cards. Looks like my deck except I have shitty basic cards where you have some good I assume rare/epic ones. I'm still doing alright with mine, but I need a good draw to get all my Buzzard/Hounds combos working to the max otherwise my cards are just too weak when the opponent throws out legendaries and shit.New unleash the hounds is godly so far. Changed up my deck on a 5 win streak so far. Bestial Wrath is quickly becoming one of my favourite cards. Trading up without trading. My deck at the moment:
I'm still in the process of tweaking it but so far the results have been great. Might swap out tundra rhino for something else, not sure yet.
Leeroy + 2x Cold Blood is usually the finisher of choice for Rogues. Easy 14 dmg for 6 mana.
She's still gonna be in a lot of decks. Though I think you should've waited till the patch hit to DE though, so you get the full 1600 dust.
Yep, for me too. Defender of Argus bugs almost every game for me now and i'm not even playing fast lately.
Blizzard how hard is to force card position recheck every 5 seconds!
Wow, literally more than half of that deck are rares and up, with 5 legendaries.
That's pretty gross.
Most Legendary players will have decks that look like that. I mean, there's no reason not to, really. Especially for a Control-ish deck that kind of needs that much value crammed into a few cards.
Yeah, accounts that opted in to the beta before January 7th should have had their account flagged for access.
With the nerf to aggro decks, she's stronger now simply because the meta will shift towards more Control decks with big late game creatures that she'd love to Mind Control. The +1 mana cost doesn't change that, really.
For the Disenchant Extras button to apply, yes. You can just right-click them in your collection and manually disenchant non-extra copies if you want to cash out playsets for full dust, though.
Oh of course I did that! The patch hit a few hours ago for me.
That's a good point.
He is EU, patch already went out.
Edit: missed your response
Patch for NA coming in an hour.
Looking forward to seeing the new meta. Guessing paladins and druid are going to be huge.
Wow, literally more than half of that deck are rares and up, with 5 legendaries.
That's pretty gross.
It feels like I am encountering more and more decks with 3 or so Legendaries.
Minsc
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This is probably nothing new, but I came across it on reading Blizzard's forums, and I've never seen the mage copy minion secret hit Jaraxxus before.
Also:
Looks like the patch will bring queueing estimates to the match-finding process. Mine are generally always around 5-10 seconds, but nice info to have if it's going to be longer.
LanceVance
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Yep I've seen this today with the EU beta. It's a little buggy though, sometimes it doesn't appear at all, whereas other times it will say wait of 2 - 5 seconds, but I'll be waiting over 20 seconds for a match
Don't suck in Arena, go infinite :x
Warlock Giants and Druid/Paladin control are probably the two/three big decks to beat with Rogue Tempo or mid-range still around doing their thing. Shaman might see a rise since it does really well vs Warlock Giants and has the early game removal for Rogue but not sure how well it'll do vs heavy late-game control deck.
Expecting to see a lot more big creatures so a lot more BGH too, which may cut down the value of things like Earth Elemental for Shaman decks (though he dies to Black Knight anyway) and Ragnaros may see less value compared to Ysera. Not sure yet.
Wow, literally more than half of that deck are rares and up, with 5 legendaries.
That's pretty gross.
Every pack I face usually has: Sylvanas, Ragnaros and Ysera. Some legendaries are just too fucking good.
I'm still salty I lost to a warlock who was on 3 life, and I had a taunt and another 3/2 minion on the field. He had Sylvanas on the field, no cards on hand, but the taunt (Fen) would not kill her so it's not like he could activate the passive. He taps, now at 1 life, and draws a fucking power overwhelming. He PO'd Sylvanas, who dies at the end of his turn, and gets my taunt.
I couldn't recover from that >:/
Tart Toter 9k
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For both the one in play and it can also kill the actual Jaraxxus-as-Hero.
...not that Sacrificial Pact is worth running for that :x
Alarm-o-Bot as well. Same way to get a, say, Druid form Druid of the Claw in play.
Tart Toter 9k
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Then it gets silenced/polymorphed/hexed/whatever and you're fucked.
How is it irrelevant? Increasing the mana cost is never irrelevant, that means she comes down a full turn later. The fact that she still played at a higher mana cost doesnt mean the nerf was irrelevant, just that she was even more insane before.
Eh, she can no longer be combo'd with brawl on turn 10 and she comes down a turn later. Hardly, an irrelevant nerf. I doubt this is the last we'll hear from Sylvanis though considering its power.
I wouldn't worry honestly. Nobody really plays Sacrificial Pact as it is a dead card vs 8 classes (and, no, not really worth it for the 5 HP heal by saccing your own Demons) and it doesn't really do much in the Warlock v Warlock match-up outside of the vs Jaraxxus case.
Basically, you don't play around the <0.1% chance.
Do you lower their costs to compensate? Even then, they'd still most likely be unplayable if they were "hope you untap with it still in play." Like, Ragnaros as a big Demolisher is pretty bad. His pseudo-charge effect is what makes him good. If they're going to nerf Ragnaros, just lower his damage.
Though I don't see why they'd nerf Ragnaros.
The one notable change is she may be removed from aggro/tempo decks that aim for turn 6-7 to be their finishing turns. Like, if she's expected to be a more control-based card, then it is more-or-less okay for her to be in most, if not all, control lists. There's really nothing wrong with some cards just being auto-include in certain lists. Sylvanas' issue was that she was auto-include in literally every deck.
...though, to be fair, Mind Control on an early turn is still just a super silly powerful effect. That may end up being adjusted somehow.
Can still Sylvanas + Shadowflame and steal Tirion / Ragnaros / Ysera / Giants!
Basically, you don't play around the <0.1% chance.
Do you lower their costs to compensate? Even then, they'd still most likely be unplayable if they were "hope you untap with it still in play." Like, Ragnaros as a big Demolisher is pretty bad. His pseudo-charge effect is what makes him good. If they're going to nerf Ragnaros, just lower his damage.
Though I don't see why they'd nerf Ragnaros.
The one notable change is she may be removed from aggro/tempo decks that aim for turn 6-7 to be their finishing turns. Like, if she's expected to be a more control-based card, then it is more-or-less okay for her to be in most, if not all, control lists. There's really nothing wrong with some cards just being auto-include in certain lists. Sylvanas' issue was that she was auto-include in literally every deck.
...though, to be fair, Mind Control on an early turn is still just a super silly powerful effect. That may end up being adjusted somehow.
Can still Sylvanas + Shadowflame and steal Tirion / Ragnaros / Ysera / Giants!
Haunted
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Since it doesn't have battlecry it acts like a normal card, aye?
Not that great, actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xdDnbiN4oY
Cause it's legendary and people will spend more money to get it?
Minsc
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Works ok with Power Overwhelming, first trade up against a stronger minion with one of your weaker demons, then after you've traded, before it dies anyway at the end of turn, get the free 5 life. It's worth 2 1/2 cards in life anyway, so even if it has a negative trade value upfront, you can make up for it over the next two turns.
Since it doesn't have battlecry it acts like a normal card, aye?
Pretty... weak, actually.
Yeah, nothing too special unless you can get a DoA up with it, making it a 4/16 taunt. Still, even at 3/15, I think it's the highest health minion in the game, so there's that. If a Priest could get one on the board with that other card and double its life to 30, it'd make for a fun target for inner fire.
They wanted Sylvanas out of rush decks. Same with Engineer. Engineer was a pretty great buff target for DiD/SSC.
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