That was supposed to be the idea but as usual with the gaming audience, every little detail has to be gutted and displayed in order to appease people who would rather bitch about something than actually experience it for themselves.
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Hellblades permadeath is a bluff - PCGamesN
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That was supposed to be the idea but as usual with the gaming audience, every little detail has to be gutted and displayed in order to appease people who would rather bitch about something than actually experience it for themselves.
Zombie James
Banned
I was intrigued about the game before and now I'm not.
Like if a perverted little elf were to walk in on me while I was in the shower.
Jawmuncher
Member
Pretty sure they never marketed perma death
People looked at the mechanic and decided it would be very unfun to lose all your progress. And apparently the developers agreed with them.
So now those people are the bad guys?
hydrophilic attack
Member
total buscuit should stick to whining about frame rates tbqh
As a game concept it is quite smart to put fear of failure into the player's mind. It's not their fault TB threw a hot take on Twitter without knowing what the fuck he was talking about.
petethepanda
Member
I'm not against the permadeath concept at all (particularly for a short-ish game like this), but having permadeath alongside scaling difficulty would have been... odd, so maybe it's for the best.
I've been having this problem for a long time with the site name.
Anyways part of me wants to say "suck it up" and vouch for permadeath, and another part of me thinks the game better have really good control and mechanics to validate permadeath...
Sucks that it's just a tease. Not sure if just a mode would have been a good play either...
Stormblessed
Member
Unsurprised. I don't think it would make sense for a studio like Ninja Theory to give people more incentive to skip their games. It's probably a clumsy point about paranoia.
Phrozenflame500
Member
It really is. A game built around permadeath and designed from the ground up for it would be legitimately interesting. A game that uses permadeath as an imaginary boogeyman is less so.
Except they never "marketed" permadeath. It literally did not become a topic until the game came out.
This is downright disappointing. I'm still buying the game but I was into the whole permadeath thing as I love tense battles. A shame a handful of crybabies ruined it for everyone.
Ninja Theory certainly didn't, as they didn't market it at all.
ThanksVision
Member
My interest in this game went from low to high and now low again. I thought this sounded like a cool idea for a game.
What mechanic?
Stone Ocean
Member
So I'm not a real gamer unless I enjoy a mechanic that is almost always optional in every game it appears in?
Forced permadeath is bollocks
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
Let's not pretend there's no difference between saying "I think permadeath is unfun" and saying "I think permadeath is anti-consumer and developers are stupid for putting it in games". Totalbiscuit's position on and weird reaction to this is untenable.
It's pretty cool in arcade games, actually.
AgentLampshade
Member
I'm not sure where I stand on this permadeath thing. On one hand, it limits player experimentation with the threat that all your data may disappear and you should stick to tried-and-true methods that quickly dissolve any sense of fun in the game. On the other hand, it's an interesting and immersive way of telling the story they want to tell - and I respect that.
To learn it's a bluff makes it feel like the full experience has been taken away from you, but also elation that your data is safe.
To learn it's a bluff makes it feel like the full experience has been taken away from you, but also elation that your data is safe.
I'm sorry, I mistakenly thought they had made it known the game had permadeath for some reason. I was ready to not touch the game again upon finding this out, though, because I had a super cheap death from falling off a log in the first 15 minutes of the game. Games with petty pseudo-scripted shit like that and QTEs can fuck off with permadeath.
Pretty sure they didn't market that?
I was intrigued about the game before and now I'm not.
Counterpoint - The permadeath thing being a bluff renewed some of my interest in the game.
Yeah, I apologized for being mistaken a few posts later.
flaxknuckles
Member
Dang I hate knowing this. The game was more tense before. Damn whiners have to ruin everything.
DantesLink
Member
Nope, not a single mention of it IIRC.
As for seeing if imaginary perma' where true: (Spoilers Abound) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIx1cejCE2c
I'm just glad it sounds a lot more lenient than it initial reports made it out to be.
SomedayTheFire
Member
I've always wondered how this would land with people. Like say you sell a game for $1 or even less with complete permadeath like you said. Interesting experiment.
And now we have a side that is saying it doesn't exist at all. I'm glad this video is out there but it's pretty clear they didn't test everything. Not like that is a problem.. The problem now is people not watching the video or fully understanding that this feature is still in, just not like many have imagined it works.
That's called an arcade game, isn't it?
Consumable games. I think that would be the heat death of gaming in a nutshell.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
This is why the "hot take" needs to die. Too much reaction for so little research.
iamsirjoshua
Member
I actually feel better knowing this.
I'm not against permadeath, but as a gamer with limited time, I'm likely to stay away from a game that I won't be able to progress in, even if it is an essential part of the design.
However, it seems like this was done not to inhibit the player, but to add to the theme and atmosphere of the game. Yes, you could trigger it, but it would take work. I appreciate it.
I'm in the camp of being more likely to play the game with this new information, although I totally understand why others would have preferred not to know.
I'm not against permadeath, but as a gamer with limited time, I'm likely to stay away from a game that I won't be able to progress in, even if it is an essential part of the design.
However, it seems like this was done not to inhibit the player, but to add to the theme and atmosphere of the game. Yes, you could trigger it, but it would take work. I appreciate it.
I'm in the camp of being more likely to play the game with this new information, although I totally understand why others would have preferred not to know.
mugurumakensei
Member
No it exists. There's a video above showing it does happen.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
GREAT, freaking GREAT! Entitled asshole on the internet couldn't stop bitching (without playing, calling devs stupid) and now a neat idea is pretty much ruined.
So in the end it was an unnecessary spoiler to a very interesting psychological aspect of the game... :/
Fuck
OH FFS
They did no such thing.
Fuck
OH FFS
They did no such thing.
Stone Ocean
Member
How is the mechanic ruined again?