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Heroes 1.18 "Parasite" (USA Edition)

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It certainly was. For a comic to perhaps give you a little background of the storyline seems fine, but to fill in the gaps like this is just retarded. What's next? Am I going to have to read a book telling me that peter blew up NY after the whole cast mysteriously relocates to Las Vegas in the show?
 
Actually, I prefer them to keep little retcons and continuity fixes in the comic book. Sadly, it just wouldn't be a comic book without 'em. :lol
 
Javaman said:
Things certainly don't jive between the comic and the show. It was implied that Hiro changed the present when he intercepted her in the past. Remember the photo with her and Hiro in it in the memorial at the diner?
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I don't think it was implied that he prevented her from getting killed by Sylar. All he said was that he couldn't save her, not that her cause of death changed.
 
Scullibundo said:
Ask yourself if you would like Peter if he didn't have any powers. That's what I thought.
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I would still think he is the best, he went to save the cheerleader knowing that he didnt have any powers and that makes him awsome also.


also, there is a pretty big spoiler out there for the next episode, I was going to post it, but I didnt want anyone to accidently highlight read it, its a freaking huge spoiler
 
i love the comics especially during the long breaks...atleast we get some new content.
i wonder if they will keep the comics going during the summer hiatus.
 
I dont think Peter can die (at least by Sylars hand.)

With his ability couldn't he just absorb all of Sylers abilities, and thus all of the abilities Sylar has aquired. It's basically superman vs. superman.
 
oxrock said:
The girl from the diner? I remember she had a tumur and that's what she attributed her rapid learning to. Initially stabbed by Sylar, then Hiro went back in time to save her but was unsuccessful. Seem to remember her dieing due to her illness that time though, I could be mistaken.
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She's murdered by Sylar. When Hiro goes six months before he learns she has brain cancer and will die naturally even if she avoids comfronting Sylar. But since Hiro disappears, he couldn't warn her from Sylar, so she ended dying by his TK...again
 
VPhys said:
I dont think Peter can die (at least by Sylars hand.)

With his ability couldn't he just absorb all of Sylers abilities, and thus all of the abilities Sylar has aquired. It's basically superman vs. superman.
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I'm not entirely convinced that he would absorb all of Sylars abilities. Remember that when HRG captured Sylar, they could never find any evidence (nor get Sylar to unwillingly use) any power besides telekinesis. Thats just my personal take on it, and it could be entirely wrong.

Also I think its safe to assume that neither one of them (peter or sylar) is going to die in this current fight that they are in. Sylar is much more experienced with the usage of his powers, but peter has access to claires healing ability. They both have advantages and disadvantages, but I dont think either one has a big advantage over the other.

I should add, even though I love this show, it rarely allows the really 'cool' moments to live their full life span. I predict that the fight will be interrupted in a stupid way causing it to end within a few seconds, failing that, if one of them does die, it will probably be a quick death without a big long super powered fight.
 
I wonder if the stress of the situation makes Mohinder exhibit some badass powers he never knew he had and he saves the day.
 
bune duggy said:
so I was wondering if we're going to see a "Civil War" type of thing after the 'bomb' goes off? or maybe a mutant registration like in the X-Men? That would be a pretty powerful way of announcing that there are super-powered people in the world and I think a lot of the same themes would arise, such as "they're a weapon" and then that would lead into the whole registration thing.

5 years into the future, right? isn't that exactly how long the creators have said they have the show mapped out for?
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The creators said they have 5 seasons mapped out.

And yea, a mutant registration would make more sense than a civil war. Civil war only made sense because they were already heroes.
 
OmniGamer said:
If you're wound up so tightly that you can't even see the humor in the fact that someone who went on and on about inaccuracies in the show, made an inaccurate description of someone's power on said show, then that's your problem. Way to take a little harmless ribbing and turn it into something dramatic.
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Eh, I guess you're the one that just don't get it, it's the sarcasm I didn't appreciate. I don't really care if I got the power wrong, mostly because it was not the point of my complaints, not to mention not everyone's abilities on Heroes are as clear cut as Sylar's telekinesis or Isaac's ability to foretell the future. It has nothing to do with me being uptight, you chose to pick on a relatively insignifcant part out of my concerns with the episode (which I admit to making the mistake), and in response I called you out on not addressing what I was really writing about. Now you call me being dramatic? Yeah, I'd see "humor in the fact that someone who went on and on about inaccuracies in the show, made an inaccurate description of someone's power on said show" if that person was ranting about the said power in the first place...

Anyway, enough of this BS, this thread is about the show, not me having to defend my opinions of it.

Sullen said:
I should add, even though I love this show, it rarely allows the really 'cool' moments to live their full life span. I predict that the fight will be interrupted in a stupid way causing it to end within a few seconds, failing that, if one of them does die, it will probably be a quick death without a big long super powered fight.
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Good point. The first encounter between Sylar and Peter ended rather anticlimatically didn't it?

Oh, and what is your avatar a gif of? It's pretty cool.

Wellington said:
One thing I don't like about the Sylar character is that until he was introduced to use he was a maniac. Remember the apartment, or the way he attacked the FBI building? Now he's a pussy.
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Another good point. When Sylar was just a name and a shadow, he was a lot more sinister, but ever since the character was brought out of the dark, he hasn't really lived up to his reputation (so to speak) until his treatment of Suresh. Oh, and I thought he had some kind of power to leap great height the way he escaped from the FBI building after the confrontation with Parkman, or was that done through a normal way?
 
Zalasta said:
Oh, and I thought he had some kind of power to leap great height the way he escaped from the FBI building after the confrontation with Parkman, or was that done through a normal way?
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Yeah, I thought he flew... maybe it was just telekinesis? Parkman definitely looked up quickly as if Sylar flew or shot up a great deal.
 
(damn those comics. again)

in the comic that we found out he took Charlie's power, he jumps out of the truck he's driving to a hanging branch that was very high over the ground. I don't know what this power is, but i imagine it's his TK.

Bringing it back to the actual show, I also think that this is how he "floated" and took that woman's hearing power.
 
Zalasta said:
Oh, and what is your avatar a gif of? It's pretty cool.
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It is a gif of a battle between space marines and the nightbringer from the game Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, for PC.

Zalasta said:
Oh, and I thought he had some kind of power to leap great height the way he escaped from the FBI building after the confrontation with Parkman, or was that done through a normal way?
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I've always assumed he was just using telekinesis on himself to lift himself out of there or at the least augment his own jumping height by giving himself alittle extra boost with telekinesis.
 
VPhys said:
I dont think Peter can die (at least by Sylars hand.)

With his ability couldn't he just absorb all of Sylers abilities, and thus all of the abilities Sylar has aquired. It's basically superman vs. superman.
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Actually my girlfriend and I talked about this. We both think that Peter has the advantage when it comes to a faceoff with Sylar. Sylar has to kill someone and open up their head (at least from what we've seen) to take their powers, where Peter just has to be around them. So lets say Sylar is going after someone who is super strong and Peter stops him. Sylar would only have the powers he has taken so far, where Peter would get that super strength in addition to everything else. Even if we jump out of that scenario, Peter can heal now. Sylar can't.

Revealing Peter could "hold in" powers made him 100x more powerful.
 
so, what's this say?

heroes.gif


didn't see it on the US version, though I may have missed it.

also, anyone have the translations for the Japanese from HRG's thoughts or the French from Grandma Petrelli/the Haitian?
 
I finally saw the episode last night. Wow. I think Company Man is still my favorite episode, but the last one was just fantastic.

Grizzlyjin said:
Actually my girlfriend and I talked about this. We both think that Peter has the advantage when it comes to a faceoff with Sylar. Sylar has to kill someone and open up their head (at least from what we've seen) to take their powers, where Peter just has to be around them. So lets say Sylar is going after someone who is super strong and Peter stops him. Sylar would only have the powers he has taken so far, where Peter would get that super strength in addition to everything else. Even if we jump out of that scenario, Peter can heal now. Sylar can't.

Revealing Peter could "hold in" powers made him 100x more powerful.
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Exactly. Sylar is just a poor man's Peter.

I made a quick chart listing all the powers both Peter and Sylar have on my site:
http://www.gluetree.com/?p=375

The only problem (I can see) with Peter absorbing Sylar's powers is he has to know about each individual one before he can use them. Can't really "turn on" your enhanced hearing if you don't even know you've aquired it.
 
fallengorn said:
I finally saw the episode last night. Wow. I think Company Man is still my favorite episode, but the last one was just fantastic.



Exactly. Sylar is just a poor man's Peter.

I made a quick chart listing all the powers both Peter and Sylar have on my site:
http://www.gluetree.com/?p=375

The only problem (I can see) with Peter absorbing Sylar's powers is he has to know about each individual one before he can use them. Can't really "turn on" your enhanced hearing if you don't even know you've aquired it.
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If he's near the person, he gets the ability. He just has to "feel it" to know its there.
 
bune duggy said:
also, anyone have the translations for the Japanese from HRG's thoughts or the French from Grandma Petrelli/the Haitian?
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Grandma: (something like:) Now our security is out the window. (to Haitian) It looks like it's because of you.

Haitian: Listen, I did all that I could. But it finished (i.e. I couldn't do any more) when they ended up finding out her power.

Found it at the 10th Wonder Forums.
 
ah, thanks. I didn't see it when I watched the US version so I was just wondering.
probune said:
Grandma: (something like:) Now our security is out the window. (to Haitian) It looks like it's because of you.

Haitian: Listen, I did all that I could. But it finished (i.e. I couldn't do any more) when they ended up finding out her power.

Found it at the 10th Wonder Forums.
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thanks.
 
Grizzlyjin said:
Actually my girlfriend and I talked about this. We both think that Peter has the advantage when it comes to a faceoff with Sylar. Sylar has to kill someone and open up their head (at least from what we've seen) to take their powers, where Peter just has to be around them. So lets say Sylar is going after someone who is super strong and Peter stops him. Sylar would only have the powers he has taken so far, where Peter would get that super strength in addition to everything else. Even if we jump out of that scenario, Peter can heal now. Sylar can't.

Revealing Peter could "hold in" powers made him 100x more powerful.
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IMO there's no doubt that Peters power is much better than Sylar. However, there was the arguement that the absorbsion of powers corrupts your DNA (HRG said as much to sylar when he was in captivity at Primatech), which is why Sylar is becoming increasingly insane. That may mean that prolonged exposure to Sylar might cause Peter to lose control, like after Peter's first meeting with Sylar.
 
ColdDeckEd said:
IMO there's no doubt that Peters power is much better than Sylar. However, there was the arguement that the absorbsion of powers corrupts your DNA (HRG said as much to sylar when he was in captivity at Primatech), which is why Sylar is becoming increasingly insane. That may mean that prolonged exposure to Sylar might cause Peter to lose control, like after Peter's first meeting with Sylar.
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He is? There's no doubt that Sylar is one evil bastard, but I don't see him as a loon.
 
bune duggy said:
so, what's this say?

heroes.gif


didn't see it on the US version, though I may have missed it.

also, anyone have the translations for the Japanese from HRG's thoughts or the French from Grandma Petrelli/the Haitian?
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That intro just ruled
 
remember in episode 17, when HRG was talking to the haitian. he asked him why he didnt wipe claires memory, and he said someone more important in claires life told him not to.

i guess they meant mama petrelli right? since hes obviously working with her as revealed in this latest episode.
 
bune duggy said:
so, what's this say?

heroes.gif


didn't see it on the US version, though I may have missed it.

also, anyone have the translations for the Japanese from HRG's thoughts or the French from Grandma Petrelli/the Haitian?
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Nothing important.　It just says "Summary of last episode."
 
soulja224466 said:
remember in episode 17, when HRG was talking to the haitian. he asked him why he didnt wipe claires memory, and he said someone more important in claires life told him not to.

i guess they meant mama petrelli right? since hes obviously working with her as revealed in this latest episode.
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That's what I assumed.


I just watched all 18 episodes for the first time in the last 3 days. This is basically the best single season of a TV series I've ever seen.


Maybe it's just me, and I'm sorry if this has been said before here(I obviously haven't read any previous threads except this one), but I still think Nathan will be the true adversary of Peter, not Sylar. I still remember the future vision Peter had about himself exploding, and the way Nathan calmly and ominously walks up to him and says "Let me help you Peter." This leads me to think he maybe learns something important from Linderman and uses it for evil. Nathan is also standing totally still even while Peter explodes. Of course I don't know why/how it happens, but I'm convinced Nathan is somehow negatively involved in the explosion. His grim smirk is too perfect. Also, the way Peter and Claire look at each other and instantly recognize each other, but out of surprise....it's like she just saw him for the first time since she talked with him in jail.

Mohinder is still alive in that vision as well, for what it's worth.
Obviously the actions of the characters may have changed the whole vision and this is all bullshit, but I personally still think that exact scene will happen during the series.


Also, it may be pure coincidence, but when Peter is in the hospital:

Nathan: "He's not gonna die, mom"
Grandma Petrelli: "He will unless I do something."

So I'm going to assume she has some ability...seeing the future maybe? Or another person capable of mind control? I dunno. Obviously it's impossible to know since we really don't know for sure if she has any power. But it is a bit curious.


Sorry for the long post, but these are just a bunch of musings I have after watching the whole thing in less than 3 days. Such an enthralling show.
 
Heroes has been great so far, I liked the Stan Lee cameo. The next episode is broadcast on my birthday, the 23rd April. It's going to blow our minds. ;D
 
Eminem said:
That's what I assumed.


I just watched all 18 episodes for the first time in the last 3 days. This is basically the best single season of a TV series I've ever seen.


Maybe it's just me, and I'm sorry if this has been said before here(I obviously haven't read any previous threads except this one), but I still think Nathan will be the true adversary of Peter, not Sylar. I still remember the future vision Peter had about himself exploding, and the way Nathan calmly and ominously walks up to him and says "Let me help you Peter." This leads me to think he maybe learns something important from Linderman and uses it for evil. Nathan is also standing totally still even while Peter explodes. Of course I don't know why/how it happens, but I'm convinced Nathan is somehow negatively involved in the explosion. His grim smirk is too perfect. Also, the way Peter and Claire look at each other and instantly recognize each other, but out of surprise....it's like she just saw him for the first time since she talked with him in jail.

Mohinder is still alive in that vision as well, for what it's worth.
Obviously the actions of the characters may have changed the whole vision and this is all bullshit, but I personally still think that exact scene will happen during the series.


Also, it may be pure coincidence, but when Peter is in the hospital:

Nathan: "He's not gonna die, mom"
Grandma Petrelli: "He will unless I do something."

So I'm going to assume she has some ability...seeing the future maybe? Or another person capable of mind control? I dunno. Obviously it's impossible to know since we really don't know for sure if she has any power. But it is a bit curious.


Sorry for the long post, but these are just a bunch of musings I have after watching the whole thing in less than 3 days. Such an enthralling show.
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im thinking linderman may have some power too. like maybe he can see the future or something. would explain why he knew nathan was working against him, about nathans and peters powers, how he knew about nathans daughter(claire), etc.

unless linderman is nathans father,hmmmm
 
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      Grammy Petrelli can heal others
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Nathan can fly,   Momma can create fires
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       Claire can heal herself.


This is what I think
 
Sorry to bump this, but it just occurred to me that if this news is true and given grandma petrelli's age (what is her actual name?) could she and the now deceased grandpa petrelli have been
a part of the same group as Linderman
? It makes sense considering the
petrelli family has a history with Linderman
.

Just applying spoiler tags incase it turns out to be true.
 
Holy shit. Linderman is
O-Z-Y-M-A-N-D-I-A-S.

Well that sucks, when Snyder's film comes out, will people suggest he ripped off Heroes? >_>
 
I wouldn't say that Heroes ripping off Watchmen is bad, it's par for the course. Heroes resembles just about every comic book on the planet and has taken something from most major series.
 
Napoleonthechimp said:
Sorry to bump this, but it just occurred to me that if this news is true and given grandma petrelli's age (what is her actual name?) could she and the now deceased grandpa petrelli have been
a part of the same group as Linderman
? It makes sense considering the
petrelli family has a history with Linderman
.

Just applying spoiler tags incase it turns out to be true.
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What I think is Linderman, George Takei, and Eric Roberts were the big 3 who started it all, but each had different goals and eventually broke apart. Gramps Petrelli worked with this original supergroup (the Linderman-Takei-Roberts group) and had Grandma Petrelli as his parter (grandma had powers, grandpa didnt), but Grandma and Grandpa Petrelli fell in love and had Nathan and Peter.

OMG, seperate, but new spoiler pictures are out for the next episode

looks like atleast Sylar survives the fight against Peter atleast, he is clean shaven and wearing new clothing, he goes to kill Isaac by nailing him to the ground using paint brushes. (Jesus like, with his arms pulled apart)

there is also a picture of Peter laying down with Grandma Petrelli over him with a bloody scar on him, in another pic the scar is gone, plus it looks like Peter changed his hair style

im just gonna link the pictures, so many awsome ones

here

judging from some of those pics, sp0rsk is onto something
 
Hrm, not just Linderman's plan, but it's even got the Watchmen generational thing going, too.

Yeah, I don't like this. If not for the fact the film's not far away, or that 300 made so goddamn much that it's going to have a lot of support and a huge budget... I might speculate that it would never come to pass and that it doesn't matter if the basic plot devices are stolen for the mass market.

But that isn't the case, so it seems pretty frustrating. Well, at least here it's obvious the plan'll be shutdown, especially when it's not hardly as clandestine or last minute or batshit insane as Veidt's plan.
 
ARGH!! don't click on that link for the pics of the next episode, I kept looking and looking until I realized that it basically spelled out the entire episode. :(
 
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