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Guesong said:
Yeah I was on the other team.
Guesong said:
The below statement, with that tone, you do not like being told what to do. Why would you bring up a demeaning metaphor which makes us look like twats.
Guesong said:
Guesong said:
Puppets an idiot, he told our whole team to "quickly kill Devourer" with his 4k hp, our whole team killed him but we were genocided after.
Also he never want's me on his team, like I give a fuck just go on the other team and beat his ass by playing Voodoo Jester going heal and stats.
Guesong said:
Accursed carry works.
Guesong said:
LOL, Pillow was crazy for thinking that. That game was lost and when pillow said that he meant when team fights happen, not like lets go kill predator now.
Guesong said:
If a carry is farming your team should not get into teamfights, but if they tower dive force a fight that person should always carry a teleport so he can tp in to help. But if your team is pushing you should go and your team would only push once your carry has his items.
Guesong said:
What? how did I ditch teamfights to go farm? what game what hero was I?
Yesterday the carries I played was Silhouette & Warbeast and we won both games :|
I farmed my frostwolf skull for Silhouette and my bkb with Warbeast and came out to party. I may have died to a neutral but that was a big ruse.
Guesong said:
Gankers are support roles, I think you mean ward bitches. Your plan would cause more rage as your jumping into the deep end first, need baby steps first. If you want a carry hero start off with heroes that require tanky type carry builds, like CD heroes that require vanguards and then go onto squishy heroes.
Guesong said:
The best helpful instruction I can give is don't play Rampage if you don't know when to use his skills. Decision making is key and if your unsure its always going to end badly. Your blood in or blood out with rampage.
Meeru said:
You heard wrong! total fluke.
kagete said:
These false accusations hurt me deeply. I never throw.
kagete said:
The fuck, this means you still hate playing with me but your holding it in like Hulk.
To be honest I think the most important thing to take away from the past 2 pages are that Thor and Puppet are both assholes that should only play support.
SNICKER
But on the real, the GAF in house culture is something that you'll either love or hate, once you get used to the game, you'll love it, but when your new, you'll think everyone is harping on you. Everyone ( at least I think everyone ) has good intentions towards the new guys, and I'm sure no real malice was intended by Yuber or Thor. Puppetyuber just doesn't think about what he says before he says it, and comes off as asshole=-sh when in reality he's just making jokes, and Thor just expects a lot out of everyone, Trust me I've gotten the receiving end of his rage a few times in TMM matches.
SNICKER
But on the real, the GAF in house culture is something that you'll either love or hate, once you get used to the game, you'll love it, but when your new, you'll think everyone is harping on you. Everyone ( at least I think everyone ) has good intentions towards the new guys, and I'm sure no real malice was intended by Yuber or Thor. Puppetyuber just doesn't think about what he says before he says it, and comes off as asshole=-sh when in reality he's just making jokes, and Thor just expects a lot out of everyone, Trust me I've gotten the receiving end of his rage a few times in TMM matches.
Sanjay said:
Because most of the time I suffer from the same demeaning behavior as I'm being harped upon and bossed around. There's a thing called cooperation, and there's a thing called subordination. Ask me to do something, don't order it.
Also I find it quite hilarious that your proof of Guesong-hating-to-do-what-he-been-told appears a posteriori, in an out of game situation, when I'm extra salty, after you made your comment. So I ask you again ; when didn't I do as I was told - or died trying - , in-game?
Good luck finding it.
A fantastic way of thinking. Tell me, how does new players begin then? They can't use any hero, because they won't know when to use anything. Heck, how does a player learn a new hero? He can't! A sprite must have visited a chosen few in their dream so that they magically knew how to play Rampage, that must be it.
And for the record ; I had swapped Soul Stealer to someone on the team who wanted it (a Gaffer, don't recall who, it was TMM), and he picked Rampage and gave it to me. Gotta make due with it, not throw the game because I have no idea when to charge, and when nobody tells me either.
My point exactly. Take the Warbeast game for instance. Everyone who was on Mumble can attest that you were missing for at least 2 teamfights. I'm not saying the logic behind it was wrong ; you used it to farm gold, become beef and procede to own, that's great. Just a statement of fact that you did, and that alot of other players do, and that while you did get harped on, those other players never do. And if me or dorkimoe or newer players try do to it, we will get harped on and pinged on, like you were.
Lies. It especially does not work when he's the only potential support on the team yet still insist on carrying.
Freakinchair
Member
So much puppet hate fest going on. He's all jokes people.
PillowKnight
Member
Drama queening a new fad? Everything I said to you was in light hearted fun.Guesong said:
You didn't hear puber calling me bad the entire time?
I think this is affirmitive proof that new players and experienced players just don't mix.
Yeah, swag and I were in full crunch mode. I didn't forget about that game against Valkyrie!
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Freakinchair said:
Real talk. If you guys think Puppet HATES Sanjay and Delirium, I don't really know how to respond. Some of the things he says are pretty jagged though, so I could see how he comes off the wrong way.
Guesong said:
Puppet does this with everyone (even us "pros"), you just have to ignore it, we're not mind readers. I do imagine a world where puppet tells me what he is thinking before combat goes down, it would be a good world.
Puppet #1 teamkiller, that's for sure. Every time I listen to him to engage I end up dead, I only hope the rest of you don't fall for his sultry voice.
PillowKnight
Member
Puppetyuber was the original drunken master voice actor, but S2 couldn't pay his fees.Kaper said:
I think a lot of people just aren't used to the "IH culture" like a few others have pointed out. "Playful" teasing goes around a lot, but to a new guy, it looks like spite or malice. I mean hell, out of everyone in every single IH, sanjay gets by far the hardest ribbing/teasing, but he just gets it. BZM and I have this thing going on where we have to at least make fun of each other 5 times per night, but I don't think any of us take each other too seriously. Some people will always have thin skin, and take every joke to heart--and I understand that; their personality is just incompatible with gaf IH (unless I guess you mute everyone in mumble and chat, but then, your virtually playing alone).
As to yuber and thor, yeah puppet has become known as the local asshole, and he embraces that, and most of us vets know not to take him seriously. The best defense is a good retort with yuber. Kag's brothers are both awesome guys and I enjoy playing with them, but like with inhouses, when I first started playing with them I had to majorly adjust to their "tryhard mode." It's a different zone, and it takes different expectations. I think all of us, at one point or another, have faced the wrath of Thor or Loki's sighs. It makes you want to quit HoN at impulse, but after 1 hour when you calm down, you realize it just makes you a better player. Someone is actually pointing out your mistake (maybe not in the perfect way, but none of us do that, unless your a 1:1 coach), instead of allowing you to repeatedly err and get stuck in a habitual vicious cycle.
As to the whole, "I want to play carries thing," just go for it and pick a carry (Sanjay always does, even in tmm to the tune of 4 simultaneous sighs of disappointment -_-). People do it all the time in in houses and that's where it's usually more acceptable (one time we had a soulstealer, blood hunter, emerald warden, and I think CD team). In a more serious game though, picking a carry is akin to what Haly said, your under more pressure, and you carry more of your team's blame. It's a tough role, and usually it's better to start out playing support until you have the mechanics down, then move on to a hero like keeper of the forest, or legionnaire where you can learn to rice without having to suffer through the laning phase (or having the responsibility of a hard carry).
As to yuber and thor, yeah puppet has become known as the local asshole, and he embraces that, and most of us vets know not to take him seriously. The best defense is a good retort with yuber
. Kag's brothers are both awesome guys and I enjoy playing with them, but like with inhouses, when I first started playing with them I had to majorly adjust to their "tryhard mode." It's a different zone, and it takes different expectations. I think all of us, at one point or another, have faced the wrath of Thor or Loki's sighs. It makes you want to quit HoN at impulse, but after 1 hour when you calm down, you realize it just makes you a better player. Someone is actually pointing out your mistake (maybe not in the perfect way, but none of us do that, unless your a 1:1 coach), instead of allowing you to repeatedly err and get stuck in a habitual vicious cycle.As to the whole, "I want to play carries thing," just go for it and pick a carry (Sanjay always does, even in tmm to the tune of 4 simultaneous sighs of disappointment -_-). People do it all the time in in houses and that's where it's usually more acceptable (one time we had a soulstealer, blood hunter, emerald warden, and I think CD team). In a more serious game though, picking a carry is akin to what Haly said, your under more pressure, and you carry more of your team's blame. It's a tough role, and usually it's better to start out playing support until you have the mechanics down, then move on to a hero like keeper of the forest, or legionnaire where you can learn to rice without having to suffer through the laning phase (or having the responsibility of a hard carry).
k you need to turn your computer off for a few days and calm the fuck downGuesong said:Because most of the time I suffer from the same demeaning behavior as I'm being harped upon and bossed around. There's a thing called cooperation, and there's a thing called subordination. Ask me to do something, don't order it.
Also I find it quite hilarious that your proof of Guesong-hating-to-do-what-he-been-told appears a posteriori, in an out of game situation, when I'm extra salty, after you made your comment. So I ask you again ; when didn't I do as I was told - or died trying - , in-game?
Good luck finding it.
A fantastic way of thinking. Tell me, how does new players begin then? They can't use any hero, because they won't know when to use anything. Heck, how does a player learn a new hero? He can't! A sprite must have visited a chosen few in their dream so that they magically knew how to play Rampage, that must be it.
And for the record ; I had swapped Soul Stealer to someone on the team who wanted it (a Gaffer, don't recall who, it was TMM), and he picked Rampage and gave it to me. Gotta make due with it, not throw the game because I have no idea when to charge, and when nobody tells me either.
My point exactly. Take the Warbeast game for instance. Everyone who was on Mumble can attest that you were missing for at least 2 teamfights. I'm not saying the logic behind it was wrong ; you used it to farm gold, become beef and procede to own, that's great. Just a statement of fact that you did, and that alot of other players do, and that while you did get harped on, those other players never do. And if me or dorkimoe or newer players try do to it, we will get harped on and pinged on, like you were.
Lies. It especially does not work when he's the only potential support on the team yet still insist on carrying.
Man the drama with Dota 2 will be glorious. Must stream every match.
Dude how will lycan look like in dota 2..he was one of my early favorite heroes.
As for learning new heroes..you really just use your imagination. For example, panda. When he first came out, I went mid with him, leveled flick and his first skill. Used tower to get level three fb. Gave him lothars and runed axe, bots. It was glorious.
Dude how will lycan look like in dota 2..he was one of my early favorite heroes.
As for learning new heroes..you really just use your imagination. For example, panda. When he first came out, I went mid with him, leveled flick and his first skill. Used tower to get level three fb. Gave him lothars and runed axe, bots. It was glorious.
Guesong said:
Sigh.
Need to get off your high horse and play like a peasant. Have you not seen the Karate Kid? Miyagi tells you to paint a fence, you bloody paint the fence! Up Down Up Down.
Guesong said:
Good luck finding it?
I said "you do not like being told what to do or listen to helpful instructions" I did not say you don't follow them. Every-time I heard you speak in response to some type of help its always in a begrudging tone.
Guesong said:
You said you did not know when to use a skill (charge) with Rampage, I don't see how this is hero related, it goes beyond that. Initiate Heroes is what a lot of new players struggle with. My advice to new players is stay away from initiate type heroes until your more comfortable with the game mechanics of HON knowing the roles of the heroes.
Guesong said:
Bad decisions have bad results but you make due like you said it was not AP. I'm not saying its your fault, I'm trying to give you a understanding.
Guesong said:My point exactly. Take the Warbeast game for instance. Everyone who was on Mumble can attest that you were missing for at least 2 teamfights. I'm not saying the logic behind it was wrong ; you used it to farm gold, become beef and procede to own, that's great. Just a statement of fact that you did, and that alot of other players do, and that while you did get harped on, those other players never do. And if me or dorkimoe or newer players try do to it, we will get harped on and pinged on, like you were.
Warbeast jungles and can push lanes fast to take down a tower like a beast. I took down top and bot towers while my team were fapping about which was great and what you want your team to do when some one is ricing or pushing. When I left Accursed it was the right thing to do. You just know the other team is closing in on you so you just carry a tp find a spot and tp out once you pushed the lane or taken a tower. Not my fault for him not carrying a tp around.
Guesong said:
I'm saying the hero Accursed can carry a game and if you got a game where Accused is the only support on your team, you are already dead.
I am sorry, everyone. While I know that everyone gets salty from times to times, and that I should definitively try to lighten up, it's just that sometimes it is quite hard, for more sensible people, do deal with being called out and harped on, no matter how justified, or non-justified, it is at time.
Had a good night sleep, good advices from Meeru, and while I still think some of the things I said are valid, I am definitively taking it far too seriously for my own good. Sorry it lashed out in the sort (and sorry Sanjay).
But despite the claims saying that in-houses are "not tryhard", I believe yesterday also showed that sometimes, that is not the case ; from people like me, who take it too seriously in one way, to people who sometimes go into too deep into tryhard mode (and thus take it too seriously the OTHER way). Sometimes, it just burns up. It may be something we should all reflect on, and try to improve on.
While I'm not promising it to never happens again, I'll head into IHs once more with a smile and with the solemn promise that no matter how bad I get wrecked and harped on at times, I promise I will never pull a MrMr. (<3)
Had a good night sleep, good advices from Meeru, and while I still think some of the things I said are valid, I am definitively taking it far too seriously for my own good. Sorry it lashed out in the sort (and sorry Sanjay).
But despite the claims saying that in-houses are "not tryhard", I believe yesterday also showed that sometimes, that is not the case ; from people like me, who take it too seriously in one way, to people who sometimes go into too deep into tryhard mode (and thus take it too seriously the OTHER way). Sometimes, it just burns up. It may be something we should all reflect on, and try to improve on.
While I'm not promising it to never happens again, I'll head into IHs once more with a smile and with the solemn promise that no matter how bad I get wrecked and harped on at times, I promise I will never pull a MrMr. (<3)
FromTheFuture
Member
It's perfectly fine to take things a bit too seriously sometimes - to get salty, irritated, frustrated, lost, confused, and so on. We don't mind if you do it, really. The only thing we ask is that at the end of the day you think about it and know that none of the salt matters in the end. We enjoy playing with each and every person that steps into an inhouse. All we're doing here is trying to keep everyone around, and you have to understand that everyone has their heart in the right place, although from time to time their salt might make it seem otherwise.Guesong said:
MrMister said:
If you want to team up solely with the vets and tryhards, I hope you're up to meeting their expectations. We will also stack vets with a new guy to even things up, so don't complain about that too please.
You and Nuke seem to be pretty tight, so if you prefer to always be on the same team we could definitely do that. People have a bad perception of you now MrMister, but we're all adults here so hopefully we can shake hands and find a good middle ground when in IHs.
Hope to catch you guys later, I have no friends or social life so I will be playing HON for 3 straight days O_O
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
MrMister said:
You guys got trucked by a Scout/Ophelia lane. Stop complaining bro.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Squire Felix said:
Ikuu said:
This is what meteor did, except he helped.