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Heroes of Newerth |OT| Free-To-Play [PC /Mac /Linux]
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Legacy gets the hero no matter what, the only reason to spend the coins is to get them early, the name should give this away... still this whole F2P patch feels so disorganized from a designer stand point, and giving no option for players past today to be a 'legacy' account is a stab in the back to anyone with a friend who wants to get in.Meteorain said:
This makes Legacy players a stinking elitist club, whether we want to or not. There are too many incentives to play only with existing Legacy friends/clanmates. I mean, even within GAF, we'd expect a few new players to join us, but because of the design decisions made for them, we'd really have much more fun, variety, and earn more coins just continuing to play with existing legacy.
TMM with 4 legacy gaffers with the sweet social coin bonus VS IH with new gaffers that will have to pick from the same 15 heroes for all the games they play for a week or more.
TMM with 4 legacy gaffers with the sweet social coin bonus VS IH with new gaffers that will have to pick from the same 15 heroes for all the games they play for a week or more.
Really I think I would be better off playing this game during the DDOS days... I'm still trying to comprehend all this and what it will mean for the current and future player base... but goddamn the overall feeling I'm getting is just... bad.
Honestly, early access is pretty bullshit, especially since you can't purchase with silver coins, I would have been fine not knowing about MK at all and just wait until the next two weeks, like a normal hero cycle. At least that way I wouldn't have to have a goddamn carrot hanging in front of my face while players who SPENT REAL MONEY TO PLAY HIM LIKE YOU WOULD IN LEAGUE OF LEGENDS FOR A FULL MONTH.
Really, Nome, you need to be the crusader for the player base here, we all know your guys intentions are good, but the execution of this patch and all the ideas behind it are HORRIBLE.
Honestly, early access is pretty bullshit, especially since you can't purchase with silver coins, I would have been fine not knowing about MK at all and just wait until the next two weeks, like a normal hero cycle. At least that way I wouldn't have to have a goddamn carrot hanging in front of my face while players who SPENT REAL MONEY TO PLAY HIM LIKE YOU WOULD IN LEAGUE OF LEGENDS FOR A FULL MONTH.
Really, Nome, you need to be the crusader for the player base here, we all know your guys intentions are good, but the execution of this patch and all the ideas behind it are HORRIBLE.
Also the green outline around 'free' heroes in the selection screen is annoying as fuck.
PillowKnight
Member
Wait..so we can't actually play these new heroes? Awesome.
It feels like HoN is taking its first steps into the F2P gaming ghetto.
It feels like HoN is taking its first steps into the F2P gaming ghetto.
1 step forward, 2 steps back, story of S2's life.
I don't understand why they make Legacy players pay for early access to heroes, should be for anyone that bought the game under $30 or is playing for free.
Do we at least get refunded at the end of the 30 day period? Seriously 30 days
Good now we can stop playing AP, mode is garbage.
I don't understand why they make Legacy players pay for early access to heroes, should be for anyone that bought the game under $30 or is playing for free.
Do we at least get refunded at the end of the 30 day period? Seriously 30 days
Wes said:
Good now we can stop playing AP, mode is garbage.
The only issue I have with this patch, is how they screwed up the Free-to-Play and how it will mess even with verified games. Allowing only 15 heroes at a time for free and making players expend real or in-game currency influences hero picks, because the f2p player will always prefer to pick the free hero if they can. I have to play with Legacy players such as GAF members if I want a 'normal' game of HoN at least in all-pick like I have enjoyed playing for the past year now. And the fact that if I have a friend who comes along down the line and really gets into the game and doesn't want to fuck with the token bullshit never have the option to upgrade to premium/legacy.
They royally fucked up the F2P model.
They royally fucked up the F2P model.
Chinese Electric Batman
Banned
God what the fuck I have to buy Monkey King.
FromTheFuture
Member
Welp, I think we're done playing AP. It had a good run.kagete said:
Lone_Prodigy
Member
No more random AP pub-stomping. 
Last night my brother randomed Warden and I randomed SS. We swapped. I went like 1/0/10.
Last night my brother randomed Warden and I randomed SS. We swapped. I went like 1/0/10.
Too many people are complaining about the legacy, early access, and free to play bullshit. Do you not see the big picture? Do you want to live in the small 540k playerbase?
This new change will help grow to 15 million registered users like LOL. people who spent $100 still need to earn new heroes in lol. S2 still needs to make money on new content. People in LoL have no problems bringing their newbie friends in the game with 10 heroes.
We should all be happy about this news. I know I am. I felt jealous when LoL had 1 million active players.
This new change will help grow to 15 million registered users like LOL. people who spent $100 still need to earn new heroes in lol. S2 still needs to make money on new content. People in LoL have no problems bringing their newbie friends in the game with 10 heroes.
We should all be happy about this news. I know I am. I felt jealous when LoL had 1 million active players.
MrMister said:
MrMister said:
MrMister said:
MrMister said:
MrMister said:
lol. I think we get it mrmr! Does sound like you need a break though... Also, you can turn off that outline feature. They explained that in the MK/Dr Mas. showcase
I agree that they need to add in an option to upgrade the account to a Legacy one, so give S2 a day or two to remedy this.. I'm sure anyone can see it's not a good decision to take that option out, otherwise they will turn off a potential userbase/customer. I don't think it will be back at $10 though; possibly a price point somewhere along the lines of what it might cost to buy a few heroes.
Bring back the incentive to random please. I only ever did it to practice/try new heroes and now I'm going to have to close my eyes and pick or someshit. I would support the whole buy MK early aspect IF they returned coins when the hero was released (as Haly suggests), otherwise just tell us the date that they officially release - we don't care for this bs.
Are the heroes that you have to pay for available in practice mode for the F2P players?
Neckbeard said:
Hm.. what's the point in this then
. I guess /bl add just works in pub games? I wish they'd add in a feature like this to MM. Who wants to play with terrible people if they have a choice.. Do you get a leave for disconnecting at the hero select screen? I would think so :/HappyPuppy
Member
So what is the Neogaf channel?
Instead I get $2's version of "free-to-play" , a backwards-ass convulted shit-storm that offers absolutely nothing to customers who've purchased HoN previously. Matchmaking with All Pick was never a good idea before, and is even less so the case now.
Also, Amun Ra was buffed in the latest patch.
How long did it take you guys to actually become semi-competent at DotA/HoN?
I'm really starting to get frustrated played this game. It's like volunteering to be the GAF punching bag for a half hour. I've definitely gotten better since I first started playing, but not by much.
I'm really starting to get frustrated played this game. It's like volunteering to be the GAF punching bag for a half hour. I've definitely gotten better since I first started playing, but not by much.
Tomat said:
I played DotA for fun at lan computer hub with friends that were also bad. I sucked horribly my first 5 or 6 games, but I got down the basics pretty quickly. What helped me the most in DotA was looking at videos and item build/playstyle guides. I quit DotA for two years or so and when I got into HoN I sucked pretty horribly as well (maybe .6 or .5 kd at the start). But then I started playing heroes that I remembered from DotA, went mid, and started winning.
I think the best thing for newbies to do is to master a few heroes before trying to just play every hero. I know whenever I see someone dominate with a hero, I download the replay so I can watch it later--that always helps tremendously (mimicking other people's playstyle). I know swiftlame said he got good by watching meeru and copying his playstyle.
Owlowiscious
Member
how would HoN get money from Legacy players without early access?