Well, there was a day or two of discussion about that character. Not agreeing about the delivery but the point is still valid.
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Well, there was a day or two of discussion about that character. Not agreeing about the delivery but the point is still valid.
scoobs
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He's not wrong.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Just had a hilarious game on battlefields of eternity where our core was down to like 5% health before getting shields back. But then we got the immortal and tried to race it and we won the race and killed them while they feebly tried to get into range to deal damage to the core.
It was an annoying match to play as hammer though, against a guldan, chromie, and stitches. I couldn't really lane push well. Still despite all that hammer turned out to be decent.
It was an annoying match to play as hammer though, against a guldan, chromie, and stitches. I couldn't really lane push well. Still despite all that hammer turned out to be decent.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
jake just spilled the beans confirming idream was the player to ragequit from bloodlust last year.
Did they say why?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
tilt after they got trashed
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
not directly but you can sorta connect the dots.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
oh might have missed that. Only remember him talking about team issues at the time and calling idream out in particular recently separately.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
what did jake do this time?
scoobs
Member
Don't play him then? Just because other people are good at him doesn't mean you have to be.
Man, playing Stukov in QM vs Illidan+Zeratul+Anub... my teammates were the Minnesota Vikings Offensive Line and just acted as broken turnstiles (wait broken ones might be stuck closed)... sorry very tiny but very bright orange road cones and let them through. Spent the whole game getting annihilated.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
when the other talents on that tier include executioner I gotta disagree.
executioner + w + skele mages is fun
It's not that good dude. You're basically counting on the enemy team to run into it. Like good luck hitting a tracer or genji, or fucking anyone really. It's just spam damage.
scoobs
Member
It's a team fight talent. You aren't 1v1ing a Tracer too often at level 13, are you? If you are, you're going to die regardless of your build. (It's also the highest win rate talent by a meaningful margin already)
You toss it into a team fight and if you hit one person with all 3 scythes (shockingly easy to do) you do 1,000+ damage to that person. If you hit a bunch of people you do like 5,000 hero damage in 1 second. If you take the level 7 quest, and have it complete by this point you can immediately send out 3 more scythes the instant they travel back to you. ITS INSANE. I'm absolutely butt blasting people right now, deny it as long as you like but Q @ 13 is going to be a thing.
scoobs
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I'm tellin ya just don't write it off! Everybody is so excited for Rapid Harvest but how frequently does Xul actually get to do damage on the front line? Almost never, he dies cuz of shit sustain and bone armor basically doing nothing against burst.
And the fact that it makes Xul better at wave clear practically means nothing... Xul has the best wave clear in the game without any talents taken. That's like adding a new exhaust to a Sports car, I mean sure it's faster but to what end? It's already fucking fast.
Play him as a mid range mage wth Q and Bone Spear and thank me later.
And the fact that it makes Xul better at wave clear practically means nothing... Xul has the best wave clear in the game without any talents taken. That's like adding a new exhaust to a Sports car, I mean sure it's faster but to what end? It's already fucking fast.
Play him as a mid range mage wth Q and Bone Spear and thank me later.
Q build is no joke.
The Quest isn't easy to complete on time but once you get the triple Scythe talent it complete really fast after that. And from that point you basically become a midrange Mage Assassin only with better other stuff.
The way I am liking Xul right now is:
LVL1: Either Backlash or Shackler. I prefer Shackler now more but against tanky line ups Backlash is really good.
LVL4: I think Grim Scythe is insane. Your uptime on it becomes crazy. Reaper's Toll talent is strong too though but you don't get the immediate power boost that Grim Scythe gives you.
LVL7: I think Harvest Vitality or the other W talent depending on match up. Tragoul's Essence is a lot of sustain in lane though but I still dislike all the skeleton stuff for Xul that isn't his heroic.
LVL10: Skeleton Mage
LVL13: Echoes of Death is the best here even if you pick W talents beforehand. I thought the W talent would give you better wave clear and merc clears.. and while it makes you clear stuff like waves and mercs crazy fast the triple scythe gives you good wave clear and merc clear as well only it's good against single targets too. The attack speed W isn't good against single targets but once you go against 2 or more targets the damage ramps up fast. Executioner is good to if you picked Shackler as your Bone Armor. I think Echoes of Death is still overall the best here.
LVL16: I like Amplify Damage the most, armor reduction for fast enemy kill. Bone Spear not bad coupled with Scythe build because it's more ranged damage you can throw out and clears waves for you.
LVL20: These days since everyone is using Stukov in QP, the reduced healing is really good against him, almost game winning. Had two games where someone picked this talent and the difference was obvious. Otherwise I pick the Skeleton Mage heroic again.
The Quest isn't easy to complete on time but once you get the triple Scythe talent it complete really fast after that. And from that point you basically become a midrange Mage Assassin only with better other stuff.
The way I am liking Xul right now is:
LVL1: Either Backlash or Shackler. I prefer Shackler now more but against tanky line ups Backlash is really good.
LVL4: I think Grim Scythe is insane. Your uptime on it becomes crazy. Reaper's Toll talent is strong too though but you don't get the immediate power boost that Grim Scythe gives you.
LVL7: I think Harvest Vitality or the other W talent depending on match up. Tragoul's Essence is a lot of sustain in lane though but I still dislike all the skeleton stuff for Xul that isn't his heroic.
LVL10: Skeleton Mage
LVL13: Echoes of Death is the best here even if you pick W talents beforehand. I thought the W talent would give you better wave clear and merc clears.. and while it makes you clear stuff like waves and mercs crazy fast the triple scythe gives you good wave clear and merc clear as well only it's good against single targets too. The attack speed W isn't good against single targets but once you go against 2 or more targets the damage ramps up fast. Executioner is good to if you picked Shackler as your Bone Armor. I think Echoes of Death is still overall the best here.
LVL16: I like Amplify Damage the most, armor reduction for fast enemy kill. Bone Spear not bad coupled with Scythe build because it's more ranged damage you can throw out and clears waves for you.
LVL20: These days since everyone is using Stukov in QP, the reduced healing is really good against him, almost game winning. Had two games where someone picked this talent and the difference was obvious. Otherwise I pick the Skeleton Mage heroic again.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
what constitutes as a click on a medivh portal or not is literally killing me
I tried it already, it was the first thing I tried with him. It's good, and it's great for spreading mortal wounds. but it's not mandatory unless you want mortal wounds at 20. Like vs double support its a good build. But in general I don't think it's as good as executioner+vulnerability = dead hero.
Thanks! I liked it, wish it was an actual skin. It's from this guy's album of HOTS related artwork (mostly skin ideas for various heroes that were requested). Some nice stuff mixed in there.
Here's the full album with all 100 ideas: http://imgur.com/a/YlHh1
Here's the full album with all 100 ideas: http://imgur.com/a/YlHh1
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
still not conviced q build is the go to for xul the range is just really low. cant even effectively poke.
I'd buy the shit out of that skin. The little cape flapping in the wind would be so good. I'll give that album a look for sure.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Reapers from sc2 could be made into it's own hero. Fast movement, goes over environment, uses time bombs, the hero makes itself almost.
Alpha Centauri
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For sure. But give me a good ole Firebat hero first if we're talking SC2
natethegreat409
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Dying to DoT effects is the single most depressing thing that can happen in this game. I always run around hopelessly searching for a regen globe before I die.
Sothis Krieg
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Meanwhile killing someone this way always makes me smile.
natethegreat409
Member
Well... you sir are a terrible person.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
The only bad part about dots is when you get the heal, your bar turns green, and then you die anyway.
Orochinagis
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Lets try Stukov a little more....aaaaand I am demoted to Bronze III
I wish Zagara have moe thematic skins I think only the desert skin have different hidralisk
I wish Zagara have moe thematic skins I think only the desert skin have different hidralisk
DaMasta113
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Nova is completely unstoppable at level 20 with fast reload. It's just so easy to wipe the other team single-handedly.
Nah - there's a reason nova doesn't see play at all at the high level. She's actually fairly weak overall, especially when people can spot her stealth shimmer and proactively attack her.
She just seems horrible at lower levels because people go solo all the time, and no-one blocks triple tap shots at 20 for their team mates so she gets lots of casts off.