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[Chojin]

So I just got back from a trip. I stopped by Detroit, Birmingham, Nashville and for the bulk of the time, New Orleans. Fucking amazing trip, New Orleans is so cool. Detroit was just as boring as the last time I went, and Birmingham and Nashville were cool, but nothing compared to nawlins.

So anyway, any restaurant I went to, there is NO vinegar to be soon. I was aware of this before, but this just re-enforced how big of a problem this is. I had chicken fingers and fries in detroit, but there was no vinegar? How am I supposed to eat chicken fingers and fries without vinegar? It's an abomination, just terrible. So plain. And Ketchup just doesn't do the job, ugh. I'm gonna have to bring a flask with vinger in it next time I go to the US.

Also when I was at the gas stations for pit stops, I didn't see any Salt and Vinegar flavoured chips? The fuck? That's the best flavour!

What's wrong with you guys!?

Wat? There's a ton of gas stations with Salt and Vinegar chips. Also there's a lot of restaurants that have malt vinegar available. Off the top of my head I know Jack and the Box has it.

Vinegar as a condiment is a regional thing. You should come visit in the Philippines. We have lots of "suka" of many types. Made from Rice, Coconut, Sugar cane. Then you either put on as is or have it soaked in hot peppers. Its awesome.

 

[TheUsual]

America added the vinegar for you

And HFCS. You cant eat in america without an unhealthy amount of HFCS.

Hunts makes ketchup without HFCS. Tastes better and I convinced my family to switch over. And the vinegar we're talking about, is it the distilled white vinegar or the malt vinegar?

 

[Windu]

Vinegar on french fries/chicken fingers? never seen anyone do that.

 

[suzu]

I like the occasional batch of salt & vinegar chips. I don't really use it on other stuff though.

P.S. I hate ketchup.

 

[Orayn]

I adore vinegar and like nothing better than a big bowl of salad with a little olive oil and a ton of whatever type of vinegar I have on hand. That acetic acid flavor is good stuff. I apologize for my countrymen being so thick. :V

 

[DanteFox]

How am I supposed to eat chicken fingers and fries without vinegar?

With ketchup or bbq sauce like a normal human being?

 

[ferr]

Once I mistook vinegar for syrup and put it all over my pancakes. It did not taste good.

 

[Korey]

Who the hell eats fries with vinegar? O_O

 

[teh_pwn]

They don't have real bacon either, guy. That bothers me a lot more than the lack of vinegar.

Most of our groceries carry mostly imitation foods. We have real food, but you have to go to farmer's markets, whole foods, and specific grocery stories. Typical groceries in America use corn, soy, wheat to make virtually everything because our government subsidizes these crops mad crazy, so real food is expensive in comparison.

I love vinegar with salads. Garlic, shallots, balsamic vinegar, olive oil, and other spices make good salad dressing. It is impossible to find real salad dressing at most groceries. Doesn't matter if it's buttermilk ranch, real mayo, or olive oil and vinegar, the ingredients are without fail soybean oil, corn syrup, salt.

 

[LaserBuddha]

You can put away your inferior mayos now.

 

[teh_pwn]

You can put away your inferior mayos now.

Sorry, still fake:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003LPSKPS/?tag=neogaf0e-20

First ingredient is soy.

To be fair, I'm not aware of a single real recipe on the market anymore.

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

I'm American and I use vinegar all the time.

Vinaigrette salad dressing and Fish with Vinegar FTW!

 

[ch0mp]

Vinegar on french fries/chicken fingers? never seen anyone do that.

Mmmmm salt and vinegar on some hot chips is delicious.

 

[Slayven]

You can put away your inferior mayos now.

A-fucking-men. All other mayos are nasty as shit compared to Duke's

 

[LaserBuddha]

First ingredient is soy.

To be fair, I'm not aware of a single real recipe on the market anymore.

Irrelevant, it's still the best by far.

You want to touch the face of God? Wait for ripe summer tomatoes and make a tomato sandwich with Duke's, salt, pepper, and white bread.

 

[Pyrokai]

I don't like overpowering my food with vinegar. Also chicken fingers suck, as does most fried food.

 

[Wes]

Who the hell eats fries with vinegar? O_O

You don't know what you're missing.

 

[Windu]

I don't like overpowering my food with vinegar. Also chicken fingers suck, as does most fried food.

no

 

[itxaka]

So what the fuck do you guys use for a normal salad dressing then?

Oil+vinegar is the only choice for a plain salad. No bullshit about strange sauces or so, it's just the default for it.

Chips + vinegar, while strange as it sounds it's pretty good one you get to taste it. Still only used in Britain and France I think.

 

[Dead Man]

Sorry, still fake:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003LPSKPS/?tag=neogaf0e-20

First ingredient is soy.

To be fair, I'm not aware of a single real recipe on the market anymore.

If it is soy oil, that is still fine. Oil is the main ingredient in mayonnaise.

 

[LaserBuddha]

So what the fuck do you guys use for a normal salad dressing then?

Oil+vinegar is the only choice for a plain salad. No bullshit about strange sauces or so, it's just the default for it.

It kind of ruins the point of eating a salad, but Bleu Cheese dressing all the way!

 

[Pyrokai]

Fried food is merely a vessel for whatever sauce/condiment you want to consume. Does anyone here eat plain chicken fingers? Plain fries (no salt)? Plain wings? Plain nuggets? Plain potato skins? Plain fried shrimp? Plain potato wedges? Plain anything fried? Everything fried typically has some condiment attached to it. It's so.....gross :\

 

[etiolate]

I love vinegar and pickled stuff

 

[ch0mp]

If it is soy oil, that is still fine. Oil is the main ingredient in mayonnaise.

Point is, soy oil is a garbage oil.

 

[Dead Man]

Point is, soy oil is a garbage oil.

Soy oil and vegetable oil taste almost exactly the same. What is the problem?

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

So what the fuck do you guys use for a normal salad dressing then?

Oil+vinegar is the only choice for a plain salad. No bullshit about strange sauces or so, it's just the default for it.

Chips + vinegar, while strange as it sounds it's pretty good one you get to taste it. Still only used in Britain and France I think.

Most americans use prebuilt salad dressing. Italian salad dressing etc. Only real foodies in america will make their own using olive oil+vinegar.

Spoiler

which I have done!

 

[Dead Man]

Most americans use prebuilt salad dressing. Italian salad dressing etc. Only real foodies in america will make their own using olive oil+vinegar.

Spoiler

which I have done!

Add a couple drops of sesame oil to that = awesome. Only a couple drops though, shit is strong.

 

[Naked Prime]

One tastes like egg, the other tastes like sugar and rancid mayo.

truth

Also, no Salt & Vinegar chips, must have not looked in New Orleans. Cause Zapps and a few other brands got that more than covered.

I have seen vinegar in eateries in Philly, Miami and a few back home in New Orleans.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

Add a couple drops of sesame oil to that = awesome. Only a couple drops though, shit is strong.

Will do. If I wasn't an artist I definitely would have gone to culinary school. Also, I'm going to try this fries+vinegar thing ASAP.

 

[Kitsunebaby]

I'm american and I put malt vinegar on my fries all the time. I will also then put a ton of salt and a bit of ketchup on them. The rest of my family does the same, with the addition of some old bay seasoning (we're from Maryland). I would never, ever dream of putting mayo on fries.

Also, american bacon is superior to all other types.

 

[Nard Bagman]

Because it tastes like vinegar.

 

[akira28]

Will do. If I wasn't an artist I definitely would have gone to culinary school. Also, I'm going to try this fries+vinegar thing ASAP.

Malt vinegar and old bay seasoning. Or balsamic vinegar. I've never tried just plain white vinegar though. Some people people like that on their fries.

 

[teh_pwn]

Soy oil and vegetable oil taste almost exactly the same. What is the problem?

Both have about 0 flavor. The processing used to extract the oils from seeds and soybeans is harsh, and the oil is polyunsaturated so it is very unstable and goes rancid rapidly. Food processors bleach and deodorize most of these to mask the rancid taste. Exceptions are cold pressed stuff like sesame oil, which does have a ton of flavor.

I prefer salads that use olive oil, cream, lard. Those oils have tons of flavor whereas soy has none.

 

[akira28]

I'm american and I put malt vinegar on my fries all the time. I will also then put a ton of salt and a bit of ketchup on them. The rest of my family does the same, with the addition of some old bay seasoning (we're from Maryland). I would never, ever dream of putting mayo on fries.

Also, american bacon is superior to all other types.

After reading the wiki, and looking at the pictures...

British Bacon

American Bacon

 

[GhaleonQ]

I've seen vinegar in a fair amount of restaurants in the Detroit area.

Pretty much. I wouldn't expect vinegar in the southeast. It's all over the northern border states, from coast to coast.

 

[akira28]

Pretty much. I wouldn't expect vinegar in the southeast. It's all over the northern border states, from coast to coast.

Vinegar lives and thrives down south too. NC style BBQ you can pour your own vinegar. Even dunk your hushpuppies in it.

Spoiler

or are you one of those that says North Carolina ain't the South?

 

[Ryn]

Ugh vinegar is disgusting

 

[Dead Man]

Will do. If I wasn't an artist I definitely would have gone to culinary school. Also, I'm going to try this fries+vinegar thing ASAP.

Shit, now I hope you like it! I love it though.

I'm american and I put malt vinegar on my fries all the time. I will also then put a ton of salt and a bit of ketchup on them. The rest of my family does the same, with the addition of some old bay seasoning (we're from Maryland). I would never, ever dream of putting mayo on fries.

Also, american bacon is superior to all other types.

Mayo on fries was bizarre to me until I went to the Netherlands. Soooooo good. You need to use the right style though.

And American bacon is the worst shit in the world. It is just a strip of fat. It is not even cut from the right part of the pig.

versus

Both have about 0 flavor. The processing used to extract the oils from seeds and soybeans is harsh, and the oil is polyunsaturated so it is very unstable and goes rancid rapidly. Food processors bleach and deodorize most of these to mask the rancid taste. Exceptions are cold pressed stuff like sesame oil, which does have a ton of flavor.

I prefer salads that use olive oil, cream, lard. Those oils have tons of flavor whereas soy has none.

Yes, but the oil in mayonnaise is not there for flavour, it is there to add body to thje condiment, it contributes no flavour at all. Oil with a flavour in mayonnaise would be... weird. But I might have to try making some.

Edit: I think maybe you thought I was talking about salad dressings in regards to soy oil. Yeah, for salad dressing you are absolutely correct, you want a nice olive oil or something. I was only referring to mayonnaise.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

Also, when I was a kid I routinely dipped my vegetables in vinegar. Probably my favorite was carrots+vinegar.

 

[789shadow]

Because vinegar is nasty?

 

[NEOPARADIGM]

Because vinegar is the food equivalent of ammonia?

 

[Kitsunebaby]

Vinegar lives and thrives down south too. NC style BBQ you can pour your own vinegar. Even dunk your hushpuppies in it.

NC style is the best bbq around. There's a local bbq joint in md that has the most perfect apple cider vinegar based sauce. Sooo good.

And American bacon is the worst shit in the world. It is just a strip of fat. It is not even cut from the right part of the pig.

versus

That's the point. When you cook the bacon all crispy that fat just crumbles and melts in your mouth. American bacon also has that irresistible smoky flavor. Get it maple or brown sugar cured and it's like god came in your mouth.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

Because vinegar is nasty?

How do you eat salad?

 

[Branduil]

Serious question. What the hell is the difference between miracle whip and mayo?

One is a real condiment and the other is a science experiment from hell.

You're all insane. This is the only true condiment.

 

[akira28]

NC style is the best bbq around. There's a local bbq joint in md that has the most perfect apple cider vinegar based sauce. Sooo good.
.

What's it called? May have to pay them, a visit.


re: bacon
I had some hand cut back bacon once, it looked just like the British stuff. You had to get it from the backwoods of NC from people of whom I could not understand one word spoken, but my granddad did. It was damn meaty and that thick strip of fat, that's how bacon was in the olden days he said. I could take that strip of fat and just gnaw on it. And don't even mention dipping it in moleasses. I was in American saturated fat heaven. The store bought stuff had nothing on it.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

One is a real condiment and the other is a science experiment from hell.


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Actually both are. The only real solution to both is ranch dressing. It tastes way better in any situation. And no one thinks you're weird for putting ranch on your fries.

 

[GhaleonQ]

Vinegar lives and thrives down south too. NC style BBQ you can pour your own vinegar. Even dunk your hushpuppies in it.

Spoiler

or are you one of those that says North Carolina ain't the South?

No fights here!

I was going over everything and I could only think of certain states' barbecue and OCCASIONALLY southeastern-only vegetables. Occasionally. You'll get vinegar root vegetables in North Dakota more often than you will vinegar collard greens in Georgia.

 

[trinest]

I have a low tollerence of Vinegar. Verging onto a alergic reaction possibly. It makes me feel sick if its really strong, and the taste is meh.

 

[Kitsunebaby]

What's it called? May have to pay the, a visit.

It's called adam's rib. The ribs are really awesome (baby back) but I don't care as much for the pulled pork since it's pulled really finely. I like bigger chunks of meat in my pulled pork. I just wish md had more in the way of bbq.

 

[Mileena]

because it's fucking disgusting