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Here's what the video creator had to say about the message/intent:
it's insane how i can't even get myself to promote the public rape experiment anymore. not because people didn't agree with it but because of how much it is being misunderstood. allow me to explain why. going into this production i knew how sensitive the topic was and how difficult it would be to translate the issue onto film and give it justice. i felt like no matter what the end product was, i was in a losing situation because there was going to be a group of people who weren't satisfied with the execution. that really messed with my head and my vision.

No screw you. You can't just say " you don't like it because you don't get it. " that's shit didn't work with NBA live and that sure as hell not gonna work with you.
 
Can we start banning people for rape jokes? That shit is unacceptable.
I think it just highlights how flawed this video is. Instead of highlighting a serious issue it's just resulted in people making light of it. Though it should be noted people are more making light of the video's wording and content rather than rape as a whole. GAF isn't that insensitive.
 
I'm actually trying out being an analrapist.

There's a lot of resistance though, but if I surprise em good enough, a lot of people seem to enjoy it.
 
WTF at the 2 guys that ran away.

To be fair to them as I'm one of those idiots that likes to think of the best in people, maybe they were going to get security, possibly for less risk to themselves and the victim, and a greater chance of actually catching the guy?

On another note, aren't cameras in bathrooms pretty much illegal?
 
Yeah, you would have a point if anyone on gaf were anywhere near as funny as George Carlin.

Sooo maybe a handful of people on earth?


Or maybe you totally missed his point?

Can we start banning people for backseat modding?

Ooop I mean everyone but me! Aw damnit!
 
This exemplifies how I think some here assume too much about me. I too tend to challenge statistics, both sourced and unsourced (such as this). I suspect that some people who might mean well are accustomed to tossing unsubstantiated claims around and then turn to attacking the motivation of anyone who challenges them as immoral. "What does it matter what the actual figures are? Rape is wrong, and if you aren't supporting every statement I make you must have some hidden agenda." I believe that bad stats are bad stats, though, whatever they want to track. And no argument, no matter how morally just, benefits from them. Not picking on you or anyone in particular -- this is something that I've seen in other threads. It seems these conversations are often dominated by extremists on either end of the spectrum, by people accustomed to reducing one another's arguments to bromides, to the bingo cards of MRA buffoons and the high-minded but batshit Tumblr blogs.

With the preponderance of rape culture discussions that I seem to be coming across this past year, I see alot of people questioning the validity of statistics being used to support all the arguments.

With the example of the gender of the perpetrator, I've seen as high as 99% (1997 Bureau of Justice Statistics) of perpetrators are male, and I've seen people saying that those numbers are inflated for the various reasons that have been put forth (broader definitions of sexual assault, etc etc.) The thing is, the people coming in and questioning the statistics will be claiming things like "well, it's not 99%, it's actually 95% of perpetrators are male." At that point, a few percentage points doesn't change the crux of the message: the overwhelming majority of rape perpetrators are male.

With such an emotionally charged issue, most people don't give a fuck about a few percentage points.
 
The thing is, the people coming in and questioning the statistics will be claiming things like "well, it's not 99%, it's actually 95% of perpetrators are male." At that point, a few percentage points doesn't change the crux of the message: the overwhelming majority of rape perpetrators are male.

With such an emotionally charged issue, most people don't give a fuck about a few percentage points.

Umm... I would say that the people who are represented by those percentage points care about it very much.

How would you feel if you were a male who had experienced violence, abuse, or rape at the hands of a female, but people swept that issue under the rug and said that "people don't give a fuck" about those few percentage points?

It's possible to address one issue without pretending that another issue doesn't exist.
And, misuse of statistics hurts everyone involved.
 
Agreed.

I hate forced humor.

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Umm... I would say that the people who are represented by those percentage points care about it very much.

How would you feel if you were a male who had experienced violence, abuse, or rape at the hands of a female, but people swept that issue under the rug and said that "people don't give a fuck" about those few percentage points?

It's possible to address one issue without pretending that another issue doesn't exist.
And, misuse of statistics hurts everyone involved.

I missed the part where I dismissed that demographic. As I said, arguing over a few percentage points doesn't change the crux of the overall message that women are 4 times as likely to be the victim of some form of sexual assault as men are.

No one is ignoring that demographic, it's just that arguing over a couple of percentage points that doesn't really change the overall message kind of makes one look like a dick.
 
I missed the part where I dismissed that demographic. As I said, arguing over a few percentage points doesn't change the crux of the overall message that women are 4 times as likely to be the victim of some form of sexual assault as men are.

No one is ignoring that demographic
, it's just that arguing over a couple of percentage points that doesn't really change the overall message kind of makes one look like a dick.

Did you completely miss all the stuff in the OP? Yes, it is completely ignoring that females may be responsible for these things as well.
Whether it was the "intent" of the original video/creator of the video, the message of the video was very clear in ignoring the possibility that females can be responsible for this stuff as well.

And, to continually nudge the percentage further and further up, to say that that 99% of it is committed against females is to further and further marginalize the men who have had stuff like this happen to them as well.
To say that "most people don't give a fuck about a few percentage points" (exact wording taken from your previous post) is part of the process of ignoring that this sort of thing also happens to men - and that both sides are serious issues.
 
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