frankthurk
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Stinkles said:
Only half?
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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Only half?
So in best case scenario:
-Paramount joins back on in Jan 09
-Universal goes format neutral in 08
-HD DVD releases gradually stop in 09
-One format HD world begins in late 09 or 2010
-By this point people are finally ready to make the HD movie leap and with only 1 format, HD movies finally take off and may not become the next dvd, but they'll do fine and most movies will be released in HD.
-Paramount joins back on in Jan 09
-Universal goes format neutral in 08
-HD DVD releases gradually stop in 09
-One format HD world begins in late 09 or 2010
-By this point people are finally ready to make the HD movie leap and with only 1 format, HD movies finally take off and may not become the next dvd, but they'll do fine and most movies will be released in HD.
AltogetherAndrews
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Sir Fragula said:
And the reason for this is...?
OokieSpookie
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Phoenix said:
Exactly, once red is gone for good their competition is dvd so the competition only picks up.
No more official than this http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,1700383,00.html
Phoenix said:
What's the point? To save two square-feet of space in my AV cabinet? I'm not going to sell my movies for less than I paid for them and buy them again at retail prices.
I'm kinda pissed at this news because all of the BOGOs are now going to end. I loved taking advantage of those!
rollingstart
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I want Batman Begins on bluray NOW!
lunarworks
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Kolgar said:
That's normal. It's so you can't re-sell them. They don't want to give you a bunch of free movies, only to have you turn around and sell them. It's the same reason mail-in rebates always ask you to cut-out the UPC and include it.
With promotional CDs they usually drill a very obvious hole through the packaging.
HOLY SHI--
Wow, Warner did it! They chose a side. WOW.
OK, now let's get to work on supplanting DVD, shall we?
LOL, the drama. I am sure the interwebs are EXPLODING right now. And I had to be at work when it happened!
Now to decide whether I should keep the five HD DVDs I bought from BB today, or return them and get the multiformat releases on Blu-ray.
Yes, probably.
Well, this was exciting. Now can we all just get along?
Wow, Warner did it! They chose a side. WOW.
OK, now let's get to work on supplanting DVD, shall we?
LOL, the drama. I am sure the interwebs are EXPLODING right now. And I had to be at work when it happened!
Now to decide whether I should keep the five HD DVDs I bought from BB today, or return them and get the multiformat releases on Blu-ray.
Yes, probably.
Well, this was exciting. Now can we all just get along?
Segata Sanshiro
Member
One step closer to me buying into this HD format silliness. Good news.
Xisiqomelir
Member
Oh my god I must head over to tardforums immediately and remain there all day. Pure comedy.
Thanks Warner! I'll buy lots and lots of your movies for saving the movie-buying consumer!
Thanks Warner! I'll buy lots and lots of your movies for saving the movie-buying consumer!
Battlezone
Member
I don't know if I could have picked a better time to literally be sitting in Microsoft's CES booth. Although, there's nothing here overly focused on HD DVD, besides Toshiba's showing off a laptop with an HD DVD drive. I did see them setting up A30s for the theater, and they were playing Bourne earlier today to test it.
These next couple of days will be certainly be interesting.
These next couple of days will be certainly be interesting.
Hey, I just saw this news on my RSS feed, give me a minute. :lolChiggs said:
May 2008 before the changeover happens and no idea when Universal or Paramount will (be able to) do the same. Format war still isn't going to resolve itself for at least another year. It will also be interesting to see how much of a moneyhat was needed to secure this kind of exclusivity as a measure of just how willing anyone else may be to go BD exclusive in the near future.
distantmantra
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So let me see if I'm reading this right:
"Warner Home Video will continue to release its titles in standard DVD format and Blu-ray. After a short window following their standard DVD and Blu-ray releases, all new titles will continue to be released in HD DVD until the end of May 2008."
From now until the end of May 2008, all movies will come out on Blu-ray and DVD, with an HD-DVD version released shortly after. Is that right?
"Warner Home Video will continue to release its titles in standard DVD format and Blu-ray. After a short window following their standard DVD and Blu-ray releases, all new titles will continue to be released in HD DVD until the end of May 2008."
From now until the end of May 2008, all movies will come out on Blu-ray and DVD, with an HD-DVD version released shortly after. Is that right?
well, about the best thing that can be said in the history books for HD-DVD is that it kept Blu-ray feature competitive. Without HDi in it's current state to prod them, who knows if or when 1.1 would have ever been implemented. I think the heavy competition also gave us plenty of great bogo deals, especially for those of us who were format neutral, giving us tons of movies for $10 and $12.50.
Sad to know a lot of people will eventually be losing jobs over this. Oh well, let's move on now and start getting out $200 1.1 players so HDM can finally take off in the mainstream.
edit - and as I said just a bit earlier, I would still really like to see an affordable combo player. 15+ perfectly good movies and at least another year or so coming from Uni and Paramount.
Sad to know a lot of people will eventually be losing jobs over this. Oh well, let's move on now and start getting out $200 1.1 players so HDM can finally take off in the mainstream.
edit - and as I said just a bit earlier, I would still really like to see an affordable combo player. 15+ perfectly good movies and at least another year or so coming from Uni and Paramount.
Naked Snake
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ZeroTolerance said:
I made the exact same mistake typing today's date earlier...
And oh great news, congrats to bluray. Glad I didn't cave in and buy an A3.
Finally the madness is coming to an end.
This is great news for the HD movie market. Best possible outcome for those who truly want to see HD movies become a reality instead of a niche.
They still may become a niche overall, but at least there is a shot for broadening horizons now.
Time to start buying Blu Ray movies.
This is great news for the HD movie market. Best possible outcome for those who truly want to see HD movies become a reality instead of a niche.
They still may become a niche overall, but at least there is a shot for broadening horizons now.
Time to start buying Blu Ray movies.
StoOgE said:
after losing this much marketshare, i predict hd will throw in the towel by the end of the year. take into condieration that the reason sales were so low is cause the market was split down the middle. with everything unified under one umbrella, and a price drop on players, they could definitely take on dvd.
Christoff Yurievich
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the part almost everyone is missing. There will still be some HD-DVD releases, which is good on them. None of this immediate crap like Paramount/DW.OokieSpookie said:
got to use it again, nice.OokieSpookie said:
he's used it at least once before though it's more fitting this time.Danne-Danger said:
I don't like the company.AltogetherAndrews said:
I bought the HD-DVD drive because it was cheap and I got a load of titles I liked at a decent quality. It was always a luxury alternative to just downloading stuff, and it's not like I don't have a fast enough connection for that not to be a viable option still. I don't feel too inclined to clutter the room up with more hardware, nor do I feel too inclined to go against my instincts do so.
Feel free to buy two Blu-Ray drives to compensate if you like though.
Bebpo said:
I think this is possible:
- Best Buy, Circuit City, Walmart, etc pull HD-DVD rapidly
- HD-DVD Promotions Group sees the writing on the wall
- Universal, Paramount are freed from any exclusivity arrangements they may have
- /end
Really though, once retail begins pulling HD-DVD from shelves, that's it. It doesn't matter if Universal is holding out or not. If customers don't see Red cases on the shelves, there's no format war.
dynamitejim
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How long until Toshiba announces their first BR player?
DarkJediKnight
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Phoenix
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Bebpo said:
You are closer to reality than you think based on information that I have sitting in front of me (same info that told me that TWX was doing BRD in early Q1). The only question mark remains the digital content distribution capability picture in 2010-2011 that would possibly prevent HD from taking off, but I myself think that to be a pipe dream and that there is no way that digital distribution will be a reality until the wholesale sales model of the studios is broken and it actually becomes profitable to sell content electronically next to regular content releases. Right now the consumers don't care, and the ones who do care have very legitimate complaints about gimped digital delivery.
Just when I bought a 360 HD-DVD add on. :lol
Oh well, at least I got the Bourne trilogy with it for free, as well as the five free movies coming and King Kong. the Bourne trilogy made the purchase worth it for me. I'm just glad I didn't go to Best Buy for the B3G2 deal. I can wait for Batman begins on Blu-Ray.
Oh well, at least I got the Bourne trilogy with it for free, as well as the five free movies coming and King Kong. the Bourne trilogy made the purchase worth it for me. I'm just glad I didn't go to Best Buy for the B3G2 deal. I can wait for Batman begins on Blu-Ray.
Riskbreaker23
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i wonder if paramount is now regretting their decision now. they should have waited until the end of the year like WB.
now would also be a good time for both sides to get together and reach some type of compromise like new dual format players or firmware updates that allow both types of movies to be played on current players (which is probably impossible though).
hopefully this does mean that the format war will be over soon because by next christmas season player should be down to $200 or less so software sales should pick up so one format would be ideal
now would also be a good time for both sides to get together and reach some type of compromise like new dual format players or firmware updates that allow both types of movies to be played on current players (which is probably impossible though).
hopefully this does mean that the format war will be over soon because by next christmas season player should be down to $200 or less so software sales should pick up so one format would be ideal
OokieSpookie
Banned
Hey, look at it this way...
At least people will get the add on price drop that they have been wanting right?
At least people will get the add on price drop that they have been wanting right?
KZObsessed
Member
Wow what perfect timing, I havn't logged onto the internet for about a week! Can't believe it! Blu-Ray has officially won and HD-DVD is finished.
Petrarca has ascended to heaven!
oh and:
hahaha! :lol Dude seriously!
Petrarca has ascended to heaven!
oh and:
Sir Fragula said:
hahaha! :lol Dude seriously!
Panajev2001a
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borghe said:
I own HP5 and while calling its picture quality inadequate is almost criminal, you cannot say that they chose the same video encode as their HD-DVD release because it was not worth increasing the video bit-rate (movies like the PotC ones do not seem to waste it), but that the added cost caused by making and polishing an additional higher bit-rate encode was not a cost Warner wanted to take.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Oh thank fucking god. My future looks much less complicated than what I was picturing in my worst-case scenario.
Riskbreaker23 said:
paramount got their payoff, which still probably surpasses the bd revenue they're losing. but their pr is going to be funny for the remainder of their hd-dvd tenure -- spinning for a format they may have never believed in, and no doubt jumping ship at the first contractual opportunity
anyway, this is probably a direct consequence of the paramount deal, so things probably worked out for the best
distantmantra
Member
Mrbob said:
I get that part. The part I was wondering about is how Warner will be slightly delaying ALL HD-DVD new releases until after they've come out on Blu-ray and DVD.
Panajev2001a
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Sir Fragula said:
Well, what have Samsung, Matsushita, and others (who make Blu-Ray players) have done to piss you off that much...
(somebody beat me to the bell with the CD comment
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