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[Christoff Yurievich]

http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20080218PD215.html



The clock is tickling.

the clock is...tickling? :lol

 

[Raistlin]

its ok onix, i'll help you replace your brd collection. how soon before pirates is on hddvd?

Speaking of which ... I'm practicing the pirate's theme-song on piano right now. Shit, its kicking my ass trying to get it at full speed.

That's what I get for stopping playing piano 17 or so years >_<

 

[StoOgE]

The movies that you get in the 5 free movie deal don't have UPC codes, that's why they wouldn't take them.

just uni movies, the others do. the stores have been told not to take them, im pretty sure returns have to be really high right now.

 

[polyh3dron]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xOJRzZ1Eos

Wow that was AWESOME.

 

[The Main Event]

the clock is...tickling? :lol

Didn't realize I typed that :lol

 

[dallow_bg]

So are going to see something EXACTLY at that press time, or will it be another hour?

 

[FuturusX]

So the WAR is over. Now somebody has to sit down and calculate how much money was spent (wasted) trying to strong arm the consumer into picking a side between formats that ostensibly offered an identical home movie experience.

Both sides played a high stakes game of Russian Roulette to achieve control of a lucrative industry. Please don't weep for the loser they don't need your tears or support. Toshiba understood the risks and were motivated by profits not the interests of the consumer. They can take this hit, dig deep into the reserves, shift some resources here and there, the thousands of people who will lose their homes in United States this week due to the mortgage crisis? Those are people I can worry about.


I love cinema, I'm independent film maker, (AKA I make very little money from the industry). One format is what we needed from the beginning. Now that were here, I'd love to see this industry grow so that we see more great films
(and the bads ones too ) in HD in the home from all over the world. (Criterion we need you).

The one thing that I did find interesting / annoying about this format war, were the agents masquerading as experts, with at first lofty and then increasingly desperate predictions of a HD-DVD victory.

Those that received some financial gain from doing so, hey you had to eat, fine that's your job.
Those whom were motivated by some misplaced hatred of Sony and its partners clearly missed the point.

THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT US.

They only care about OUR DOLLARS. Toshiba - Sony - Microsoft...(Add all the companies you like to this list) If you hate one you should hate them all.

The industry Allowed this WAR to play out regardless of the damage to its consumers whom invested their money, hearts and time into both formats.

As long as there are profits to be had they'll be more format wars ...and we'll participate we have to (or do we?), that's what we do.

Dedicated to the punditry of Rob Enderle - A man who makes it seem as though anyone can do it...

 

[Raistlin]

Dedicated to the punditry of Rob Enderle - A man who makes it seem as though anyone can do it...

:lol

 

[Costanza]

My goddamn internet died for like 20 minutes just now, I was afraid I'd miss the conference :lol

 

[OokieSpookie]

My goddamn internet died for like 20 minutes just now, I was afraid I'd miss the conference :lol

LOL that is creepy, so did mine

 

[Keyser Soze]

*stumbles in thread*

...need sleeeeeeep, but must stay awake!

 

[Midas]

One hour left?

 

[Costanza]

LOL that is creepy, so did mine

I'm in FL too...you have Road Runner? Maybe they had some problems.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Not going to make it. Will grab two hours sleep now. Goodbye thread.

 

[OokieSpookie]

I'm in FL too...you have Road Runner? Maybe they had some problems.

LOL yeah, If it didn't come on soon I was about to drive up to the office and see what was up.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Press release will probably show up before the conference starts. Usually that is how this stuff works...

 

[Costanza]

LOL yeah, If it didn't come on soon I was about to drive up to the office and see what was up.

heh, I was like 30 seconds away from calling them when it came back..

 

[Chemo]

I'm in FL too...you have Road Runner? Maybe they had some problems.

Yeah... FL with Road Runner myself. That shit was not cool.

 

[PS2 KID]

Press release will probably show up before the conference starts. Usually that is how this stuff works...

Damn. I hope they release the PR soon. Time to put the final nail in the coffin. I need my sleep too!

 

[Costanza]

Yeah... FL with Road Runner myself. That shit was not cool.

I'm surprised their outages affect the whole state. It was weird how it happened too... like at first GAF was working but not Google.. then it just died completely a few minutes later.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

maybe a pipe was cut like in the Middle East?

 

[MickeyKnox]

It's almost time right?

 

[B.K.]

Castro was so upset about the death of HD-DVD that he resigned as president of Cuba!

 

[polyh3dron]

It's almost time right?

13 minutes.

 

[msdstc]

Of all nights to be tired I pick tonight. I'm alright though, ready to watch this one through to the end. Fully expecting to see some universal/paramount announcements tomorrow.

 

[Costanza]

10 minutes guys!

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Hey cool, since you're all here, one of you can help me spam refresh on the Tosh PR site :lol

http://www.toshiba.com/tai/news/news.jsp

 

[Costanza]

Hey cool, since you're all here, one of you can help me spam refresh on the Tosh PR site :lol

http://www.toshiba.com/tai/news/news.jsp

server error :lol

 

[ManaByte]

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Announced full stop of HD-DVD production. Service and repair continue for the time being, however repair parts will cease to be available after eight years.

 

[Costanza]

Announced full stop of HD-DVD production. Service and repair continue for the time being, however repair parts will cease to be available after eight years.

where's this?

 

[DarkJediKnight]

Good God, I can't believe I'm up for this. :lol

I hope you guys are all following this link.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/live-from-toshibas-hd-dvd-press-conference-in-tokyo/

 

[polyh3dron]

 

[MickeyKnox]

Hey cool, since you're all here, one of you can help me spam refresh on the Tosh PR site :lol

http://www.toshiba.com/tai/news/news.jsp

wouldn't it show up here?

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/index.htm

 

[BoboBrazil]

Any live streaming going on?

 

[Argyle]

Announced full stop of HD-DVD production. Service and repair continue for the time being, however repair parts will cease to be available after eight years.

That seems to be about Onkyo - but they reference the imminent Toshiba announcement...

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/live-from-toshibas-hd-dvd-press-conference-in-tokyo/

also: http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses

 

[ManaByte]

where's this?

Yahoo Japan.
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20080219-00000036-mai-bus_all

Couple hours old though.

 

[Duderz]

Good God, I can't believe I'm up for this. :lol

Yeah, I've got to be at work in less than 7 hours. :/

 

[Costanza]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/live-from-toshibas-hd-dvd-press-conference-in-tokyo/

awesome

 

[ManaByte]

That seems to be about Onkyo - but they reference the imminent Toshiba announcement...

Pasted the wrong link, see my above post.

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[polyh3dron]

According to Engadget the PR just hit, IT'S OVER

Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

 

[Kittonwy]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/live-from-toshibas-hd-dvd-press-conference-in-tokyo/

also: http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses

YES!!!

 

[max-pain]

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr_j1903.htm

 

[MickeyKnox]

Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses

19 February, 2008

Company Remains Focused on Championing Consumer Access to High Definition Content

TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI24HgwK4m0&feature=related

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

added bold. last paragraph is the interesting one I guess.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Yay I was first at AVS :lol

Okay let's kick out the fucking jams!

 

[Costanza]

According to Engadget the PR just hit, IT'S OVER

 

[YYZ]

So exciting, I can't wait!!!

hold me kittonwy!

 

[Raistlin]

Well … as my post count indicates … this thread has been no end of entertainment for me. At times, it’s even been informative, though certainly the lulz have been what kept me coming back for more.

Glad to have partaken in such an epic thread. Blu Pac-Man, you were a beautiful thing.




Goodbye HD DVD, and good night.

 

[Costanza]

Kinda disappointed they didn't say anything about joining up with the BD camp

yeah, it's been fun guys. BYE THREAD