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Clickbait Game Dev Hideo Kojima says Death Stranding is a reaction to 'Trump and Brexit'

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Good damn, a ton of retards showing their true bigoted colors in this thread. Can't look at a lot of you the same way anymore. It's one thing to want some of the things you want, but to be so hateful and spiteful about it towards others just shows how deep narcissism and rabid ego runs in the gaming community...

...and yet fools keep trying to lie and say it isn't a thing xD. Using immigrants as scapegoats to fearmonger when it was mostly Western nations that fucked up their homelands in the first place forcing them to migrate...maybe don't fuck up foreign countries and destabilize them? Never mind that most of those immigrants assimilate into society and tend to seem striving for better education and incomes than most of the natives, so I guess some envy is at play here.

You can be an advocate for sensible borders and national sovereignty without turning into a Richard Spencer or Stephen Molyneux, Once you hit those levels, you lost a long time ago.



Not true. Otherwise why would be getting all that sweet, sweet anime, manga, Japanese video games etc.? Why would all those Japanese SF players be travelling around the world? Why does Japan have a clustering of Korean and Chinese immigrants (plus residents from other non-Asian foreign nations for particular work fields) present?

Also a country like America has a completely different history than one like Japan; just because he's from the latter doesn't mean he can't speak on the former. There's this thing called "learning information" and forming this other thing called "critical thought" from it. You don't make video games, but you definitely talk about them anyway. Same difference.



Quit bullshitting; you're only bringing this up because you live in America and want to make America, a country that's traditionally never been an ethnostate, an ethnostate.

Never mind that there's a difference between just naturally deriving an ethnically homogeneous nation, and forcibly trying to create one by actively persecuting and targeting exclusion of peoples who don't fall within your preferred ethnic definition, simply because of no other reason that they don't fall within those definitions.

...which sadly for people like you, is generally what your talks of an ethnostate end up reflecting in the language you use.
its really hard to find a single accurate statement in your whole post. no one here, nor Trump, nor any of his followers have ever argued for an ethnostate(richard spencer is a self-admitted socialist). The wall is not some statement for an ethnostate, nor is discussing the reduction of immigration (of which the US has the least restrictive immigration system in the entire world. )

Japan has a 127,000,000 population with roughly only 2,000,000 of them being non-100% japanese. meaning, Japan is 98.5% ethically homogenous. Good luck finding more of an ethnostate in the world, except maybe North Korea and the Republic of Congo. Why are earth are you arguing against that basic fact?

Instead of instantly labeling people bigots for wanting sensible immigration, that is even less severe than Japans immigration system btw, try to understand other peoples point of view?

Its laughable that you rail on westerners but will bend over backwards to defend Japan, who are even more extreme than the westerners you call bigots. Its asinine and that why people got on Kojima for his idiotic statement. He can have his opinion on Brexit, but why even bring that up when his own country actually has the policies already in place that the English and Americans wanted with Trump and brexit?

Dont even bring up “destabilization” as an excuse, otherwise you should advocate for Japan to openly accept unlimited Koreans and Chinese for their atrocities in WW2

It is an undebatable fact that Japan is one of the most isolationist 1st world countries in the world, and thats NOT a bad thing. Its ok to have your own culture, values, and people.
 
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Are you? Removing all borders means we automatically end up with only one culture? Have you been to NYC for example? I can’t even count how many cultures that co-exist there, and that’s just one city.

As for language, everyone in here seem to speak English, right? Do you think we’re all native English speakers?
Fuck outta here lol

i dont wanna be meshed under a same language, same culture, same everything for everyone. good luck with those under sharia law
 
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its really hard to find a single accurate statement in your whole post. no one here, nor Trump, nor any of his followers have ever argued for an ethnostate(richard spencer is a self-admitted socialist). The wall is not some statement for an ethnostate, nor is discussing the reduction of immigration (of which the US has the least restrictive immigration system in the entire world. )

Japan has a 127,000,000 population with roughly only 2,000,000 of them being non-100% japanese. meaning, Japan is 98.5% ethically homogenous. Good luck finding more of an ethnostate in the world, except maybe North Korea and the Republic of Congo. Why are earth are you arguing against that basic fact?

Instead of instantly labeling people bigots for wanting sensible immigration, that is even less severe than Japans immigration system btw, try to understand other peoples point of view?

Its laughable that you rail on westerners but will bend over backwards to defend Japan, who are even more extreme than the westerners you call bigots. Its asinine and that why people got on Kojima for his idiotic statement. He can have his opinion on Brexit, but why even bring that up when his own country actually has the policies already in place that the English and Americans wanted with Trump and brexit?

Dont even bring up “destabilization” as an excuse, otherwise you should advocate for Japan to openly accept unlimited Koreans and Chinese for their atrocities in WW2

It is an undebatable fact that Japan is one of the most isolationist 1st world countries in the world, and thats NOT a bad thing. Its ok to have your own culture, values, and people.
So you read nothing I wrote, but wanted to take a moment to frame me as being in opposition of national sovereignty so you could run your script? Ok then.

I don't think you people are understanding that there's a right and wrong way to go about things. 2,000,000 non-Japanese in Japan does not equal "zero foreigners". That's not how numbers work. And I don't blame Japan for having very strict refugee policies...they weren't one of the countries that went about destabilizing large chunks of the Middle East and Africa for political and resource purposes. The problems in some of those places, when factoring in foreign countries, don't really involve Japan so why should that be their thing to work on?

And that is nothing to do with Japan's own problems with places like Korea and China. There's lots of baggage there Japan hasn't answered for, but eventually will, hopefully peacefully between them. But that's its own situation, and not what this discussion's about. But if you were to ask me, yes, I think they should be held to the same standard in regards to what they've done in the past to mess up stability of other Asian countries, as Western countries should be held for doing the same in places like the Middle East, Africa etc. Fair is fair.

Having your own culture, values, people etc. is not an exclusive aspect of isolationist ideals. You can have those same things within non ethnically homogeneous nations. The problem is too many lazy people who would rather run to easy bog-standard "solutions" but find out all the same problems they'd want to attribute to "others" reside within themselves as a people, and at that point you can't 'other' anybody, you have to finally face the mirror.

I support national sovereignty and individualism. But I'm not simple-minded enough to do so at the expense of belittling or dehumanizing other people, or thinking they're inferior to me. That's...kinda what I was getting at. It's common sense.
 

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Todays immigration is garbage and the people who are jumping boarders are garbage too.
When i immigrated to canada i had a job i used my own money to pay for everything i never got anything from the goverment and it took me five years applying extending work visas , lmo s etc and i was fucking working and paying taxes. I fought hard to become a citizen.
And now look at these fucks just walking in feeling entitled putting their hands out to collect money from us and they dont even want to learn the language or be part of our society.
No they want to live the same way they lived in their own country that they left cuz it was so shit.
And now an asian man wants to talk about immigration to me ?
I was is japan i was in china i was all over south east asia. Vietnam thailand you name it. All utlra conservativ nationalists. Zero fucking diversity.
I am getting greta flashbacks who came here to bitch about our oilsands but doesnt DARE to go to china or india the biggets poluters on earth.

Aghh i joined this forum for games not for politics and here we are.
 
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So you read nothing I wrote, but wanted to take a moment to frame me as being in opposition of national sovereignty so you could run your script? Ok then.

I don't think you people are understanding that there's a right and wrong way to go about things. 2,000,000 non-Japanese in Japan does not equal "zero foreigners". That's not how numbers work. And I don't blame Japan for having very strict refugee policies...they weren't one of the countries that went about destabilizing large chunks of the Middle East and Africa for political and resource purposes. The problems in some of those places, when factoring in foreign countries, don't really involve Japan so why should that be their thing to work on?

And that is nothing to do with Japan's own problems with places like Korea and China. There's lots of baggage there Japan hasn't answered for, but eventually will, hopefully peacefully between them. But that's its own situation, and not what this discussion's about. But if you were to ask me, yes, I think they should be held to the same standard in regards to what they've done in the past to mess up stability of other Asian countries, as Western countries should be held for doing the same in places like the Middle East, Africa etc. Fair is fair.

Having your own culture, values, people etc. is not an exclusive aspect of isolationist ideals. You can have those same things within non ethnically homogeneous nations. The problem is too many lazy people who would rather run to easy bog-standard "solutions" but find out all the same problems they'd want to attribute to "others" reside within themselves as a people, and at that point you can't 'other' anybody, you have to finally face the mirror.

I support national sovereignty and individualism. But I'm not simple-minded enough to do so at the expense of belittling or dehumanizing other people, or thinking they're inferior to me. That's...kinda what I was getting at. It's common sense.
It's among the lowest numbers of foreigners, statistically, of any country. If your argument is simply "any foreigners at all means I win" then there's no sense talking to you. Japan never was involved in destabilizing other countries? lol, ever heard of World War II? I love the idea that these countries are eternally the victims of us, there's no way they have their own selves to blame whatsoever for being shitholes.

Eventually will? What's with this crap you've got about countries answering for wrongs done by people no longer alive? It is what the discussion is about if you're going to use bad faith arguments like we need to accept illegal immigrants because we did... what in Honduras and El Salvador? But they're not being held to this standard you believe they should be, they're not enduring criticism for worse restrictions than us despite prior acts.

Multiculturalism is pushed by Jews more than anyone else, because they're among the only groups who can preserve cultural identity even while being among other cultures, by promoting multiculturalism they can watch other cultures swallow each other up while their's becomes dominant. I mean among our cultural values would be things like capitalism and the ability to become great if you work hard, so letting in freeloaders who prefer tyranny to freedom DOES dilute the culture of America.

Some cultures are superior to others, that's factual and not something you can wiggle out of by shaming people for being "mean".
 
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Japan is a small island that isn't comparable to the godless lands of Eastern Europe!
 

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Todays immigration is garbage and the people who are jumping boarders are garbage too.
When i immigrated to canada i had a job i used my own money to pay for everything i never got anything from the goverment and it took me five years applying extending work visas , lmo s etc and i was fucking working and paying taxes. I fought hard to become a citizen.
And now look at these fucks just walking in feeling entitled putting their hands out to collect money from us and they dont even want to learn the language or be part of our society.
No they want to live the same way they lived in their own country that they left cuz it was so shit.
And now an asian man wants to talk about immigration to me ?
I was is japan i was in china i was all over south east asia. Vietnam thailand you name it. All utlra conservativ nationalists. Zero fucking diversity.
I am getting greta flashbacks who came here to bitch about our oilsands but doesnt DARE to go to china or india the biggets poluters on earth.

Aghh i joined this forum for games not for politics and here we are.
That is why I never click on the green politics button on the left. I'm surprised this hasn't been moved yet.
 

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Kojima didn't say that this game is reaction of Brexit and Trump wall.
Brexit even start after this game was announced.

Kojima said in that interview that he's trying to make lonely/people create bridges, rather than buildings walls and disconnect to each other.

This is the interview what misleading OP is referring.

 
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Todays immigration is garbage and the people who are jumping boarders are garbage too.
When i immigrated to canada i had a job i used my own money to pay for everything i never got anything from the goverment and it took me five years applying extending work visas , lmo s etc and i was fucking working and paying taxes. I fought hard to become a citizen.
And now look at these fucks just walking in feeling entitled putting their hands out to collect money from us and they dont even want to learn the language or be part of our society.
No they want to live the same way they lived in their own country that they left cuz it was so shit.
And now an asian man wants to talk about immigration to me ?
I was is japan i was in china i was all over south east asia. Vietnam thailand you name it. All utlra conservativ nationalists. Zero fucking diversity.
I am getting greta flashbacks who came here to bitch about our oilsands but doesnt DARE to go to china or india the biggets poluters on earth.

Aghh i joined this forum for games not for politics and here we are.
Sorry all but a post like this just HAS to be answered:

No, immigrants do not come here with their hands out waiting to be given money. They come here to work and will do the stuff people like you think you're above doing.

Most immigrants pay their own way, often paying smugglers or taking dangerous routes because the severely undermanned immigration system in the US can't handle the load - I know people with family members trying to do it the "right way", who have been waiting 15 years for a residency card.

Learning basic English is a requirement to become a citizen. It's right there on the website.

It doesn't matter if Vietnam, Thailand, China are all ultra conservative nationalists. That's not what America is about and hasn't been about for 250 years. There have been various ethnic waves adding to this country for hundreds of years, starting with the white europeans that displaced the natives. Please learn basic US history (like immigrants that apply for citizenship are required to do) before you comment further in this thread, you're just embarrassing yourself.

Back to the game, the more I think about it the more I think Kojima is just trying to connect the game to current politics to make it relevant and controversial, two things he really likes; but I think it's highly unlikely the game was designed with Brexit and Trumpism in mind.
 

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I'm very late to this...only read part of page 1 of these posts. I got a feeling there's going to be a mass exodus of pre-orders after this.

I cringed reading that OP. Like "Ooooo...GAF's not gonna like this"
 

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So Kojima is an open borders advocate?
It's strange how he thinks more connections can only be a good thing. A lot of the problems in the Western world today have been caused by society's increased interconnection via so-called social media.
And it starts....
 

rofif

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Its a throwaway line in documentary.
He says that Trump builds a wall,
 

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Switch and Xbox represent a huge part of the market as well, but it's a start.
If you haven't learned by now that you should always buy sony and nintendo consoles to play every japanese game that's your fault. Also lmao @ thinking this would even run on switch.
 

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If you are building bridges, it doesn't have to mean necessarily that you have to take immigrants in you country, and i dont think Kojima is saying that.
You can connect in you long lost friend or a family member, and building bridges in that way, burning bridges is always bad and building walls is even worse.
 

rofif

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It is extremely lonely in Japan (according to few documentaries) so I get it
 

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Good damn, a ton of retards showing their true bigoted colors in this thread. Can't look at a lot of you the same way anymore. It's one thing to want some of the things you want, but to be so hateful and spiteful about it towards others just shows how deep narcissism and rabid ego runs in the gaming community...

...and yet fools keep trying to lie and say it isn't a thing xD. Using immigrants as scapegoats to fearmonger when it was mostly Western nations that fucked up their homelands in the first place forcing them to migrate...maybe don't fuck up foreign countries and destabilize them? Never mind that most of those immigrants assimilate into society and tend to seem striving for better education and incomes than most of the natives, so I guess some envy is at play here.

You can be an advocate for sensible borders and national sovereignty without turning into a Richard Spencer or Stephen Molyneux, Once you hit those levels, you lost a long time ago.



Not true. Otherwise why would be getting all that sweet, sweet anime, manga, Japanese video games etc.? Why would all those Japanese SF players be travelling around the world? Why does Japan have a clustering of Korean and Chinese immigrants (plus residents from other non-Asian foreign nations for particular work fields) present?

Also a country like America has a completely different history than one like Japan; just because he's from the latter doesn't mean he can't speak on the former. There's this thing called "learning information" and forming this other thing called "critical thought" from it. You don't make video games, but you definitely talk about them anyway. Same difference.



Quit bullshitting; you're only bringing this up because you live in America and want to make America, a country that's traditionally never been an ethnostate, an ethnostate.

Never mind that there's a difference between just naturally deriving an ethnically homogeneous nation, and forcibly trying to create one by actively persecuting and targeting exclusion of peoples who don't fall within your preferred ethnic definition, simply because of no other reason that they don't fall within those definitions.

...which sadly for people like you, is generally what your talks of an ethnostate end up reflecting in the language you use.
 

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Sorry all but a post like this just HAS to be answered:

No, immigrants do not come here with their hands out waiting to be given money. They come here to work and will do the stuff people like you think you're above doing.

Most immigrants pay their own way, often paying smugglers or taking dangerous routes because the severely undermanned immigration system in the US can't handle the load - I know people with family members trying to do it the "right way", who have been waiting 15 years for a residency card.

Learning basic English is a requirement to become a citizen. It's right there on the website.

It doesn't matter if Vietnam, Thailand, China are all ultra conservative nationalists. That's not what America is about and hasn't been about for 250 years. There have been various ethnic waves adding to this country for hundreds of years, starting with the white europeans that displaced the natives. Please learn basic US history (like immigrants that apply for citizenship are required to do) before you comment further in this thread, you're just embarrassing yourself.

Back to the game, the more I think about it the more I think Kojima is just trying to connect the game to current politics to make it relevant and controversial, two things he really likes; but I think it's highly unlikely the game was designed with Brexit and Trumpism in mind.
Sorry but what you just wrote is not factual.

I am originaly from germany. I left in 2005 and moved to canada.
Look whats going on in my home country.
Look at the invasion we had where they just walked 5000kms to germany through several SAFE countries . None of them applied for anything none of them had to take any tests.
Dont tell me about all the steps i had to take to become a citizen. I did all that , i dont think you had the pleasure to be questioned like a criminal each time i had to apply for extentions .
They all claim to be refugies. Over 90 percent of them are being denied any status and are to be deported. But we cant deport them cuz they have no papers no address no money nothing.
Look at western europe with their no go zones and all exclusive ethnic blocks .
Is that immigration or is that invasion. Taking a piece of land and turning it i to your private country disregarding all laws doing what you want. Yes i get it white people did all that bla bla. Its 2019. Get over it.
How many cars got blown up in sweden last week?
How many women and children got raped all over europe since 2015?
I live both sides of the story.
I give credit to people how come to us or anywhere else to have a better live with the intent to assimilate and work. And in that case i hundred percent support the no border policy and i dont even care if they come illegaly. People should have the right to move freely if they have good intentions.

The point is to every 100 legitimate migrants come a 1000 lazy criminal ones.
In my mind you immigrate and take on and respect the culture you immigrate to. Period.

But i understand people like you will never get how we as hard working immigrants and that includes all your so called us history immigrants feel about whats happening today in the world.

Edit: fyi my sister came here to school. She went to become a dental technologist. We paid 40000 for her school. Once she gratuated we were told that open work visa is no more and she needs ro aplly for an lmo.
That didnt work out and she got deported.
How do you feel about this?
A young healthy woman with a decent edjucation wanting to work gets kicked out?
Who paid for school here? Finished it here?
And the same people welcome and support third world country people with zero schooling no edjucation who will be a burden to tax payers for years to come and cuz they get everything for free they dont care to show any effort or what so ever.
 
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Good damn, a ton of retards showing their true bigoted colors in this thread. Can't look at a lot of you the same way anymore. It's one thing to want some of the things you want, but to be so hateful and spiteful about it towards others just shows how deep narcissism and rabid ego runs in the gaming community...

...and yet fools keep trying to lie and say it isn't a thing xD. Using immigrants as scapegoats to fearmonger when it was mostly Western nations that fucked up their homelands in the first place forcing them to migrate...maybe don't fuck up foreign countries and destabilize them? Never mind that most of those immigrants assimilate into society and tend to seem striving for better education and incomes than most of the natives, so I guess some envy is at play here.

You can be an advocate for sensible borders and national sovereignty without turning into a Richard Spencer or Stephen Molyneux, Once you hit those levels, you lost a long time ago.



Not true. Otherwise why would be getting all that sweet, sweet anime, manga, Japanese video games etc.? Why would all those Japanese SF players be travelling around the world? Why does Japan have a clustering of Korean and Chinese immigrants (plus residents from other non-Asian foreign nations for particular work fields) present?

Also a country like America has a completely different history than one like Japan; just because he's from the latter doesn't mean he can't speak on the former. There's this thing called "learning information" and forming this other thing called "critical thought" from it. You don't make video games, but you definitely talk about them anyway. Same difference.



Quit bullshitting; you're only bringing this up because you live in America and want to make America, a country that's traditionally never been an ethnostate, an ethnostate.

Never mind that there's a difference between just naturally deriving an ethnically homogeneous nation, and forcibly trying to create one by actively persecuting and targeting exclusion of peoples who don't fall within your preferred ethnic definition, simply because of no other reason that they don't fall within those definitions.

...which sadly for people like you, is generally what your talks of an ethnostate end up reflecting in the language you use.
Here in Poland a lot of Ukrainians seek work and they are usually nice, assimilating people who work hard. I have absolutely nothing against them and they are just like polish people but in the early 90s economy(so ruined by east and their own corrupted goverment) .
The small problem arises when there are 1 million people from foreign country, working twice as much for less money. It creates a problem for local economy and typical company will prefer to hire foreigners than local people who will want to earn more obviously. But it is still not too bad and all is good still unlike like what we hear happens in Germany. My friends who live there say that some of islamic immigrants do not want to assimilate at all and force their horrible ways of living upon everyone else and well... rape everyone.
There are both sides of a coin and it's a broad topic which is too easy to generalize and go by rumors.

That said -Kojima bases his feelings more on overall cruelty of the world and huge rise of lonely people in Japan.
 
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lefty1117

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Sorry but what you just wrote is not factual.

I am originaly from germany. I left in 2005 and moved to canada.
Look whats going on in my home country.
Look at the invasion we had where they just walked 5000kms to germany through several SAFE countries . None of them applied for anything none of them had to take any tests.
Dont tell me about all the steps i had to take to become a citizen. I did all that , i dont think you had the pleasure to be questioned like a criminal each time i had to apply for extentions .
They all claim to be refugies. Over 90 percent of them are being denied any status and are to be deported. But we cant deport them cuz they have no papers no address no money nothing.
Look at western europe with their no go zones and all exclusive ethnic blocks .
Is that immigration or is that invasion. Taking a piece of land and turning it i to your private country disregarding all laws doing what you want. Yes i get it white people did all that bla bla. Its 2019. Get over it.
How many cars got blown up in sweden last week?
How many women and children got raped all over europe since 2015?
I live both sides of the story.
I give credit to people how come to us or anywhere else to have a better live with the intent to assimilate and work. And in that case i hundred percent support the no border policy and i dont even care if they come illegaly. People should have the right to move freely if they have good intentions.

The point is to every 100 legitimate migrants come a 1000 lazy criminal ones.
In my mind you immigrate and take on and respect the culture you immigrate to. Period.

But i understand people like you will never get how we as hard working immigrants and that includes all your so called us history immigrants feel about whats happening today in the world.

Edit: fyi my sister came here to school. She went to become a dental technologist. We paid 40000 for her school. Once she gratuated we were told that open work visa is no more and she needs ro aplly for an lmo.
That didnt work out and she got deported.
How do you feel about this?
A young healthy woman with a decent edjucation wanting to work gets kicked out?
Who paid for school here? Finished it here?
And the same people welcome and support third world country people with zero schooling no edjucation who will be a burden to tax payers for years to come and cuz they get everything for free they dont care to show any effort or what so ever.
As soon as you write BS like "for every 100 migrants there are 1000 lazy criminals" you completely invalidate your case and make yourself look like an intolerant xenophobe. The numbers just don't back up what you're saying, and you've provided no source to prove such a claim. I can't take anything you write seriously. I'll leave you to gnaw on your anger. Good day sir
 

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As soon as you write BS like "for every 100 migrants there are 1000 lazy criminals" you completely invalidate your case and make yourself look like an intolerant xenophobe. The numbers just don't back up what you're saying, and you've provided no source to prove such a claim. I can't take anything you write seriously. I'll leave you to gnaw on your anger. Good day sir

Wow so you are the problem you see. No constructive critisism just leftist nonsense.
Listen there is a world outside the US of A.
Germany got 1.5million illegal migrants in just one year.
Edjucate me how many of these migrants work contribute and how many are still on hand outs and selling drugs etc.
Oh yeah lets forget about all the terror attacks we had in europe in recent years.
To that i say women and children are holy. Yet look they run a truck through the street killing over 80 people in their way. And yes lot of children.
I can show you the daily reports of what these migrants do .
Yes to every 100 good there is a 1000 that deserve to rot in hell.

With all this said i wont argue about this anymore and again it pains me that these topics that are very tipy toey in todays climate make their way into gaming.
From sjw propaganda to now immigration and trumps america etc.

For the past 40 years of my life gaming was a way to escape reality to find joy in hard times but i feel that with the diying of the movie industry the people who want to get us to fight eachother, like evident here , seeking out new ways to spread their message and brainwash us and gaming is the next best thing.

To everyone i offended in any way my appologies and lets continue with what we are all here for. Gaming.
 

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This thread is an amazing social experiment.

People who were all for Kojima and this game are doing 1 of 3 things.

1. Trying to twist Kojima's words as to explain a neutral position on the wall and brexit.

2. Completely annihilating Kojima, calling him "retarded" amongst other things

3. Telling him to stay out of politics, though every last one of his games have political undertones based on real life occurrences (i.e. Cold War, Vietnam, etc.)

I'm curious as to how these same people would react if Kojima were leaning more right with this.
 

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He's always had politics in his games, he's just on the wrong side this time. He comes from one of the most insular societies in the world, with essentially a wall of ocean surrounding his country. Hideo should explain how the term "gaijin" originated and what it means, and how fucking inclusive that is to other cultures and societal walls too, while he's at it. :/
Gaijins are treated way better than immigrants are in the states I'll tell you that for sure. I've been to Japan a few times, my brother lives there. Gaijin hunters exist and it's not as bad as it sounds. Some people want to befriend Gaijins because of social status, or to learn English. However this can be taken to the extreme where people will date you in Japan only for those purposes.

Also, come on, "wrong side this time"? Really Johnny?
 

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Gaijins are treated way better than immigrants are in the states I'll tell you that for sure. I've been to Japan a few times, my brother lives there. Gaijin hunters exist and it's not as bad as it sounds. Some people want to befriend Gaijins because of social status, or to learn English. However this can be taken to the extreme where people will date you in Japan only for those purposes.

Also, come on, "wrong side this time"? Really Johnny?
Damn, I'm gonna move to Japan. 6'1 decent looking white guy gonna slay all that japanese minge.
 

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This thread is an amazing social experiment.

People who were all for Kojima and this game are doing 1 of 3 things.

1. Trying to twist Kojima's words as to explain a neutral position on the wall and brexit.

2. Completely annihilating Kojima, calling him "retarded" amongst other things

3. Telling him to stay out of politics, though every last one of his games have political undertones based on real life occurrences (i.e. Cold War, Vietnam, etc.)

I'm curious as to how these same people would react if Kojima were leaning more right with this.
I think they key here is political undertone.
I can say my eyes and brain were opened by mgs2. It was all in there. The secrets the truth everything.
And i appreciate it a lot.
But thats the point. It was embeded in the game. There was no statement no push. It was all hidden in a fictional world and it was up to you what to make out of it.

He IS one of the best in the industry. But let the politicans do the brainwash and he should just focus on games.
 

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Gaijins are treated way better than immigrants are in the states I'll tell you that for sure. I've been to Japan a few times, my brother lives there. Gaijin hunters exist and it's not as bad as it sounds. Some people want to befriend Gaijins because of social status, or to learn English. However this can be taken to the extreme where people will date you in Japan only for those purposes.

Also, come on, "wrong side this time"? Really Johnny?
Fuck man isnt gaijin hunter some chick who wants to fuck big white cock lol?

I was in japan i was treated with such a huge respect i felt bad about it.
And yes many many times girls randomly came to me to take some pics and took off. Was hoping for some pussy as i cant even describe you how gorgeous japanese women are but oh well.

Maybe some of them are still flicking the bean to my pic. At least i like to think😎
 
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lol are you fucking serious ? You're telling Hideo Kojima to "shut up about politics"?
Hideo "the patriots" Kojima?
Hideo "Militaires Sans Frontières" Kojima?
Hideo " La-li-lu-le-lo" Kojima?
Hideo "I made a clone of Big Boss the President of the USA" Kojima?
Hideo " I made a prequel set in USSR during the Cold War" Kojima?
These "no politics in games" folk are nuts, I doubt they have ever played a Kojima game or any other medium which heavily uses politics as influence (movies,art,music)
 
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As soon as you write BS like "for every 100 migrants there are 1000 lazy criminals" you completely invalidate your case and make yourself look like an intolerant xenophobe. The numbers just don't back up what you're saying, and you've provided no source to prove such a claim. I can't take anything you write seriously. I'll leave you to gnaw on your anger. Good day sir
Yeah im sure all those immigrants coming into EU countries are all doctors and people with an eduction, wanting to build up an existence here, amongst people of the same country. Respect their countries cultures, laws and morals.

Sure.

You dont know the half of it.
 
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This turned ugly quite quick. Kojima is right about Brexit and Trump. If you look at what's going on with Social Media, Russia and the proxy wars in Syria. These are dark times.
 
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I think they key here is political undertone.
I can say my eyes and brain were opened by mgs2. It was all in there. The secrets the truth everything.
And i appreciate it a lot.
But thats the point. It was embeded in the game. There was no statement no push. It was all hidden in a fictional world and it was up to you what to make out of it.

He IS one of the best in the industry. But let the politicans do the brainwash and he should just focus on games.
So because he comes out with an actual statement that isn't meant to actually pick a side? He stated a fact. Trump is building a wall. Some would argue the factual nature of that, let's just say he's trying really hard. Brexit same thing. He stated a fact without giving a real opinion about anything. He didn't say Trump is wrong for building the wall.