ZeroGravity
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Time to throw more fuel on the fire. Ellie supposedly a fake all long.
didnt they do the same to the korean girl who also plays OW? Claims she wasnt real and a man and cheating
Time to throw more fuel on the fire. Ellie supposedly a fake all long.
Time to throw more fuel on the fire. Ellie supposedly a fake all long.
Her evidence is Punisher told her?
I know that there are dumb ass trolls out there, and that harassment existed in this case. But why not just straight the record, and let the person in question come forward, prove her existence. Its not that hard. I don't think that thats harassment.Nobody’s missing the point. I’ll say it again: unfounded suspicions do not justify treating someone like shit on the internet. Harassment is harassment. Harassment is also ILLGEAL. It’s up to the esports leagues to decide if and how they can verify someone’s gender. It’s not in the hands of fuckwit trolls who are chomping at the bit to attack someone just for giggles.
They knew exactly what they were doing. They have an agenda to push and will latch onto any story that even remotely seems like it furthers that agenda, facts be damn.The counter claim is as weak as the original story. Create controversy/scandal, drive traffic to streams and personalities to uncover the truth for the next week = +revenue. Whole thing stinks of opportunism. And 'journalists' need to look at this long and hard and realise how quickly they fan flames
The counter claim is as weak as the original story. Create controversy/scandal, drive traffic to streams and personalities to uncover the truth for the next week = +revenue. Whole thing stinks of opportunism. And 'journalists' need to look at this long and hard and realise how quickly they fan flames
I know that there are dumb ass trolls out there, and that harassment existed in this case. But why not just straight the record, and let the person in question come forward, prove her existence. Its not that hard. I don't think that thats harassment.
If that’s all that happened (just asking for the identity to be proven) this wouldn’t be a story though. The story is harassment happened.
its gonna be hilarious if all these "journalists" wrote stories about this yet nobody reached out to Ellie to see if she was a real person
I know that there are dumb ass trolls out there, and that harassment existed in this case. But why not just straight the record, and let the person in question come forward, prove her existence. Its not that hard. I don't think that thats harassment.
Yes, because there is no proof that the player is a she. We can keep going in circles....If that’s all that happened (just asking for the identity to be proven) this wouldn’t be a story though. The story is harassment happened.
I know thats exaggeration, but no one is asking that.To me it sounds more like someone who doesn’t want their gender to overshadow their skills in a game. Not everyone wants to be put on a pedestal due to their gender like many of the SJWs out there. She would probably prefer to fly under the radar and enjoy being competitively good at a goddamned game.
Look if I’m wrong about her I’ll own up to it but it doesn’t feel that way to me. Also I really dont understand why some people are demanding photographic evidence of her vaginal cleft.
It's weird. I'm usually okay with fantasy fan fiction, but for some reason, I'm just not keeping my suspension of disbelief with this post. Maybe throw in some dwarves or elves to make it more believable...So, a bunch of boys play a video game online. No-one is interested in a proof that they are boys.
A wild girl appears.
"You're not a girl."
"What, yes I am a girl."
"No you're not, prove it!"
"No. Why?"
"It's a guy pretending to be a girl!"
"No I'm not."
"Hey look, that's a guy! Ellie hasn't proved Ellie's a girl!"
"Why I should..."
"CUNT! Hey guys, let's stop playing with Ellie! There's no proof Ellie's a girl!"
This reminds me the days of past when internet wasn't this huge mainstream thing it is today. There was this music forum and one day someone named as a famous musician appeared there claiming he is that musician. Talked about his projects and stuff. There were lots of people who laughed at it saying "do you really think someone that famous would be interested in writing on this forum, lol you are gullible, it's not him, it can't be him."
It really was him, but for some reason it was impossible for people to think that no-one famous would want to do the things these ordinary people want to do.
I think it's a bit like that with women too. People get confused when someone they generally would like is suddenly interested in the same thing. To control the confusion they want to dismiss it as hard as possible. I remember people writing to game magazines in early 90's that girls don't really play video games. And when someone wrote a letter and said she's a girl and likes to play these games, there were bunch of angry letters in the next issue claiming it's bullshit.
It's like "no, it's that famous dude who I kinda like, he can't be hanging out here... with us... I... like his music.. I'm not famous, how could he be interested in being with not famous people?"
Or "no, it's a girl... hey... I like girls... she can't be hanging out here... with us... with me... I... like girls... but I'm a guy, how could she be interested in being with guys like this?"
And at worst this confusion ends up being stuff like "IT'S NOT WOMEN'S BUSINESS TO DO THIS, FUCKING CUNTS, DICK TITS RAPE LOL GTFO CUNT!!!111111"
To me it sounds more like someone who doesn’t want their gender to overshadow their skills in a game.
Time to throw more fuel on the fire. Ellie supposedly a fake all long.
Time to throw more fuel on the fire. Ellie supposedly a fake all long.
Aspen is a city in Colorado. As far as playing Overwatch, I'd say it is better than Boulder but not as good as Denver.But is Aspen a real Overwatch player...?
I know thats exaggeration, but no one is asking that.
Look, Im not condoning harassment at all, all I'm saying is that it could stopped/avoided in a very simple way, like, stream or something.
Her evidence is Punisher told her?
“He did it as a social experiment and didn’t expect it to get out of hand.”
If that’s true, then he’s an idiot. That can’t be the whole story.
So all this fuzz because a girl is playing Overwatch without proving that she is actually a girl?
What is this? Am I in the Matrix? I'm too old for this.
You're too lazy for this. If only there was a three page thread and multiple links that you could've used to actually understand this issue...So all this fuzz because a girl is playing Overwatch without proving that she is actually a girl?
What is this? Am I in the Matrix? I'm too old for this.
So is The Punisher gonna be punished for this or what?
then they should have used a genderneutral handle
Again, why? As long as the Esport organizations can confirm her identity, what kind of rule entitles other players and the general public to know her name, gender or anything else about her?
*use to play it*haha you're funny!
and yes 40,000,000 people play it. it's OK not to like something you know.
Is it normal that SW signed “Ellie” without any vetting? Wouldn’t the callouts be delayed when they practiced/scrimmed? Seems like there should have been red flags?
Seems like a lot of people look stupid here (including me). Or was SW in on it?
Seems like this just hurts future real female contenders.
Ok fine, let’s put your theory to the test. Tell me if you’re a male or a female. You. Post it here on this forum.
It's weird. I'm usually okay with fantasy fan fiction, but for some reason, I'm just not keeping my suspension of disbelief with this post. Maybe throw in some dwarves or elves to make it more believable...
Agreed 100%Even if it turns out it was fake persona it's still proof of horrible behaviour of community. You can be critical and sceptical of something in polite way.
Who Punishes the Punisher?