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Hollow Knight |OT| Cute Insects That Just Want to Burrow Into Your Heart
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Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Yep, found Nailsmith and shopkeeper. Can't believe that i've slain the boss without upgrading my nail even once (^__^)
The dream version of the boss in this area is much harder, i'll come back to deal with him later.
Ah, thanks for the tips. I tried a few different charm layouts (always with
Grubsong
Hiveblood
If you have 6 soulcharges, you have about
60 or so lives with grubsong+deepfocus in WP. Plus don't forget, whenever you meet loyal retainers, you can dreamnail them for a complete recharge of your health. With Hiveblood on top, worst would be like 5 slow minutes until you have 6 soulcharges again, then 60 instant tries again. Completely doable.
So I just had a thought: how amazing would it be to have physical pins of the in-game charms as a kind of collector's item? I was looking at my charms screen in the game and I could suddenly picture them all in the real world, set out in a nice plush case, just as they were on the screen. I'd have a hard time not buying that.
Oh wow, had no idea you could
. Awesome tips, cheers again!
Oh wow, had no idea you could
hit those dudes with the dreamnail for a health recharge
â Narayan
Member
I noticed that I've yet to receive my Steam key for backing this. I contacted the developer through Kickstarter. Hopefully someone gets back to me soon.
No, but Trial of Fools is. By far the hardest thing in the game imo.
Getting really annoyed because of this Colosseum bullshit, I want to complete those trials but I can't even finish the first one because after I've received the reward and try to walk out of the arena the goddamn door is locked and I fall into some limbo that I can't get out of! Here's a picture so it's easier to understand:
I can see just a tiny bit of my character behind the bars and if I try to go back to the arena I just clip through the screen and though I can hear the character moving I can't see him and I can't get out. This blows because I'm now at 75% completion rate and I really want to go for the 100% but I can't progress because of this bug. Are the developers aware of this problem?
I can see just a tiny bit of my character behind the bars and if I try to go back to the arena I just clip through the screen and though I can hear the character moving I can't see him and I can't get out. This blows because I'm now at 75% completion rate and I really want to go for the 100% but I can't progress because of this bug. Are the developers aware of this problem?
Getting really annoyed because of this Colosseum bullshit, I want to complete those trials but I can't even finish the first one because after I've received the reward and try to walk out of the arena the goddamn door is locked and I fall into some limbo that I can't get out of! Here's a picture so it's easier to understand:
I can see just a tiny bit of my character behind the bars and if I try to go back to the arena I just clip through the screen and though I can hear the character moving I can't see him and I can't get out. This blows because I'm now at 75% completion rate and I really want to go for the 100% but I can't progress because of this bug. Are the developers aware of this problem?
I think once you've recieved the reward, got the achievement, unlocked the next trial etc you can just quit to menu reload your save and you'll appear at the last bench you rested, trial will remain cleared.
Getting really annoyed because of this Colosseum bullshit, I want to complete those trials but I can't even finish the first one because after I've received the reward and try to walk out of the arena the goddamn door is locked and I fall into some limbo that I can't get out of! Here's a picture so it's easier to understand:
I can see just a tiny bit of my character behind the bars and if I try to go back to the arena I just clip through the screen and though I can hear the character moving I can't see him and I can't get out. This blows because I'm now at 75% completion rate and I really want to go for the 100% but I can't progress because of this bug. Are the developers aware of this problem?
This was happening to me. Hitting start and quitting saved all my progress though
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
I didn't like the abundance in some Metroid games either and I disagree entirely that they're "needed" due to reasons I already listed. Only sporadically has backtracking come close to 10 minutes (much less doubling it) in Hollow Knight for me, so I guess that's the point of contention.
That didn't work for me before but now that I reloaded my save it appears to have worked. Strange bug but I'm just glad I can complete these trials now!
Harbinger of War
Member
Finally bought this yesterday after seeing reports that performance was improved, and I'm absolutely hooked. Atmosphere, music, art style, level design, platforming, combat... everything is so on point.
Also, that moment when (mid-game spoilers)
feels like such a Dark Souls moment that it's ridiculous. Just a fantastic game.
Also, that moment when (mid-game spoilers)
you unlock the shortcut from Crystal Peak to Dirtmouth
If I go ahead and fight the boss in the B
E
T
can I continue exploring the map and searching for collectibles or is it a point of no return? At least I'm assuming it's the final boss(?).
By the way, is that Midwife NPC good for anything or she just there to creep you out?
lack
gg
emple
By the way, is that Midwife NPC good for anything or she just there to creep you out?
It drops you back to before the boss fight when you reload the save. You can go aheda and do it tbh since its a different ending anyway.
There is no point of no return
Man, that Radiance fight. It doesn't seem insurmountable, but between nearly every attack doing two damage, and having to fight Hollow Knight to get to him every time, I think I'm good. Hollow Knight wasn't too hard, but he's annoying enough that I don't want to fight him every time just to get to Radiance, and I already got the Sealed Siblings ending, and put 32 hours into the game. I think I'm good. I'll watch the other ending on youtube. Would be real nice if, after beating Hollow Knight and using the Dreamnail, I could just jump straight into the Radiance fight.
If you use
Joni's Blessing and lifebloodcore
At that point Hollow Knight is hardly a boss anymore, think of him as a minute long walk back. I beat radiance with Joni+core+stalwart shell+thorns of agony anf a fully upgraded Nail.
Well I've beaten the game but I think 100% is beyond me. I just cant handle
. Even with basically infinite health it just gets to point where I feel my minds going to shut down focusing on getting through all the traps. I'll probably try again tomorrow, I need to de-stress now.
White Palace
Harbinger of War
Member
My biggest complaint with the game is that there doesn't appear to be a no-HUD mode. I guess the late-game backtracking for some of the final items is a little bit of a nuisance as well, but not being able to take HUDless screenshots of great moments like
is disappointing.
your final meeting with Quirrel by Blue Lake
Nice, gonna give that a try later today.
I went ahead and beat the final boss, 82% completion rate and 31 hours in-game time. What a game! I know I missed a ton of stuff though so I'm not stopping here, I think I didn't even encounter all optional boss fights. Has anyone figured out if there's a way to stop M
yla
Nabs
Member
That helped a bit, especially with pounding out Hollow Knight as quick as possible. Makes him a lot easier to rush down and get to the Radiance fight. I was able to get to the second phase of the fight where he destroys the platform you're on and breaks it into smaller ones in the air, but couldn't get past that part. How long is that fight? Is that the final phase?
Also, do I need to beat Radiance to get 100% in the same run? I'm sitting at 95%, and wanted to get the Radiance ending, then go back and do Trial of the Fools and find the Mister Mushrooms (I think that's all I need for the hundo percento), then just fart on HK real quick to get it. Don't want to have to do Radiance again, so if that's the case, I'll go finish up my remaining few quests before I fight him. Not looking forward to the Trial of the Fools though. How much harder than Conquerers is it? I thought that one was tough at first, but after getting Hiveblood and a few nail upgrades, I knocked it out no problem.
In the same room?
I did the second phase in about a minute, I think I got lucky with his placement and attacks though. There technically is one more phase. But its very short and easy.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
I've now played more of the game (20 hours) and I sort of agree with you now. But I mean, look at Fungal Wastes, there's like only one bench there in the entire area which is not small by any means. And yes, I wish there was more Stag Stations in some areas cuz here's when you waste 10 min at least to get to goddamn Stag Station.
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I can now safely say that Hollow Knight is the absolute best modern metroidvania I ever played (sorry Ori). The game has a shit ton of new and cool stuff which is new to this genre and adds A LOT to it, even if it borrows some elements from one well known and respected series and imho, it's a HUGE plus! Also, the world in this game is absolutely massive, extremely well done and interesting to explore. Worldbuilding and lore is also excellent along with many characters you'll encounter during your journey.
I mean, I can't say enough how much I love and adore this game.
Turns out a break was what I needed, many many hits later I finally cleared that section. I honestly don't know how I managed some of it.
Harbinger of War
Member
Agreed completely. I haven't played Ori yet, and it's been so long since I've played Super Metroid, but as of right now this might be my favorite game in the genre. Just to add to everything you mentioned, one of the things that impresses me the most are the controls. Everything is so fluid and responsive. Once you get upgrades like
Mantis Claw for wall jumping, Mothwing Cloak for dashing, and Monarch Wing for double jump
White Palace
I've seen comparisons to Super Meat Boy get thrown around, and I can definitely see where those are coming from. This game controls like a dream.
I do think this game generally falls into the same backtracking traps that many metroidvanias suffer from and could have really used a simple fast travel option better than the stag tunnels. Not crazy about the map system and having to use a charm slot to know my position on the map, either. But those are minor gripes in an otherwise excellent game.
AmethystEnd
Member
I think I'm still pretty early in the game, but here's my F
C
fight. I loved this boss remix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcBlohsLCNc
ailed
hampion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcBlohsLCNc
OniBarubary
Banned
Imma be honest that the backtracking never really bugged me because as you get further and further in the game, the methods of traversal you unlock make backtracking or going over areas again much faster.
I mean, I just finished the
subquest first try (using a combination of Spell Strengthening/Soul Cost/Soul Collection charms and just fireballing everything from a safe distance) and getting from
to
which are at opposite ends of the map took me...10 minutes? Maybe? And that was being careful as fuck and slow in my approach.
Meanwhile, I'm never gonna 100% this game cause fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck the last
fight. Tried it twice and was like "Nope"
I mean, I just finished the
Delicate Flower
Resting Grounds
Queen's Garden
Meanwhile, I'm never gonna 100% this game cause fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck the last
Colosseum
OniBarubary
Banned
"Oh cool, beatmy first try. Only have one health left. Close! And a new ability? Neat!"Soul Master
I've literally been watching twitch streams of this fight solely for that moment. The number of streamers who like, set down their controller and started talking to chat and then got really confused was hilarious.
Coriolanus
Banned
that was a very nice finish, not even touching the ground in the last segment. very well done.
AmethystEnd
Member
Thanks!
"Oh cool, beatmy first try. Only have one health left. Close! And a new ability? Neat!"Soul Master
Speaking of that fight, I just beat the remixed version of him.
Here's my S
oul
yrant
Warning you guys, this is not pretty nor skillful in the least. Also 7.5 minutes feels really long for a metroidvania boss. Am I just underpowered?
He's hard to get hits on, especially if you're not using any range charms. So yeah, I could see the fight lasting that long. How upgraded is your nail?
AmethystEnd
Member
So the first upgrade is just money. The 2nd upgrade is 1 Pale Ore. That's the one I'm on.
Harbinger of War
Member
FWIW, I believe I used a charm load-out of
Soul Catcher, Quick Focus, and Hiveblood
if I took damage, I could just safely wall jump and dash around the room avoiding enemies until I regained that bit of health. Particularly useful against enemies who don't give you much time to heal on the ground but also can't hit you up in the air